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Public Comments Received on October 10,2025 to November 20,2024 5:00 PM for NPDES Permit NC0089168-Martin Marietta Materials,Inc./Vanceboro Quarry
E-mails and letters are attached alphabetically by last name in the order listed below.
Date Time Postage Date First Name Last Name E-mail Street Address City State Zip
11/20/2024 2:46 PM Will Anders Raleigh North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:46AM James Blackley Aurora North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:10 AM Holly Brantley Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 12:49 PM Robert Brantley Spring Hope North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:09AM Susan Callahan Chocowinity North Carolina
11/19/2024 6:04AM William Cape[ Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 9:39AM Melissa Carlyle Aurora North Carolina
10/16/2024 12:25 PM George Carr Faison North Carolina
10/16/2024 12:27 PM George Carr Faison North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:29 PM Jackie&David Childs Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 12:01 AM Carol ReAnne Clifton Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:51 PM Ben Cohen Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:52 PM Ben Cohen Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:22AM Ervin Daniels Aurora North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:14 PM Trent Davenport Grifton North Carolina
11/15/2024 7:17 PM Bob Daw Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Heather Deck
11/20/2024 8:55 PM Cynthia Dixon North Carolina
10/11/2024 Postcard no post mark Betty Ebe Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 1:00 PM Chandler Eberly Garner North Carolina
11/20/2024 11:02 PM Vicki Falconer Goldsboro North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing George Foster Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/7/2024 2:20 PM Scott Gardner Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 mail 11/20/2024? Alpern Parker—Jr Gerard Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 1:01 PM Landon Gordon Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 12:30 PM Cathy Hare Aurora North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:57 PM Kelly Harris Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 9:19 AM Betsy&Joe Hester Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 9:28 AM Chris Hill Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:59 PM George Hines Cary North Carolina
11/20/2024 12:11 PM Debra Hollis Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:05 PM Leanna Hudson Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:45 PM Eleanor Hunter Raleigh North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Mary Ellen Hunter
11/20/2024 12:39 PM John Jenkins Winterville North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Benard E_Jr Kane Greenville North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:54 PM Benard E Jr Kane Greenville North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:08 PM Benard E Jr Kane Greenville North Carolina
11/14/2024 5:57 PM Mark Keane Trent Woods North Carolina
11/20/2024 9:43 AM Wayne Lanning Chocowinity North Carolina

11/12/2024 10:58 AM Carol Largey Chocowinity North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Ernie Larkin Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 11:43 AM Dick Leach Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 11:09AM Jean Leggett WILLIAMSTON North Carolina
11/19/2024 8:54 PM Julie M Linder North Carolina
10/18/2024 8:20 AM Doreen Livermon Greenville North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:01 PM Lillianna Mayo Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 9:17AM Christie Mclawhorn North Carolina
11/22/2024 mail 11/20/2024 James Meekins Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 8:26 AM James Meekins Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/18/2024 9:14AM Judith Meyer Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 11:02AM Christina Minkies Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:24AM Roland—Jr Modlin Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:49 PM Phyllis Moore-Johnson Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:56 PM Phyllis Moore-Johnson Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:18 PM Laurie&Mr Nelson Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 9:42AM Lizz Nelson Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 1:11 PM Jock Parker Holly Ridge North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:04 PM Brad&MaryBeth Poplyk Chocowinity North Carolina
10/14/2024 1:15 PM Patricia Quante Chocowinity North Carolina
10/28/2024 Postcard 9/20/2024 Heather Reilly Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 3:59 PM Kelly&Mr Reliford Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 11:11 AM Christi Roark Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/19/2024 4:05 PM Jennings Rose Oriental North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:13 PM Stephanie Seals Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 3:57 PM James E Seitz Raleigh North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:04 PM Katie Sheppard Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 2:03 PM Scott Sheppard Washington North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Elaine Sheridan
11/20/2024 1:56 PM Jeff&Beth Sherman Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:05 PM Jesse Simmons North Carolina
11/20/2024 1:52 PM Anne Skalski
11/20/2024 10:29 AM Joanne Smith Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:52AM Richard Smith Aurora North Carolina
11/20/2024 11:56 AM Michele Spence Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:53 AM Emma Tandy Aurora North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:53 AM Michael Tandy Belhaven North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Kathleen&Marshall Taylor Washington North Carolina
10/17/2024 letter 10/13/2024 Buster Thompson Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Buster Thompson Blounts Creek North Carolina
11/20/2024 4:16 PM Andrew Thon Washington North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:34AM Charles Tucker Tarboro North Carolina
11/10/2024 11:35 AM Paul Walker Blounts Creek North Carolina

11/20/2024 10:34AM David Wilder Aurora North Carolina
11/20/2024 10:31 AM Shannon Wilder Aurora North Carolina
11/20/2024 8:02 AM Anne&Steve Windle North Carolina
11/20/2024 9:35 AM Kristin Zaki Chocowinity North Carolina
11/20/2024 6:30 AM Nasser Zaki Chocowinity North Carolina
11/19/2024 written comments at hearing Katey Zimmerman

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From Will Anders
Date Wed 11/20/2024 2:46 PM
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Will Anders
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
James Blackley
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From Holly Brantley
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Hello,
Please see the letter attached rea9cirding my comments and concerns pertaining to the renewal of the
Vanceboro Quarry Permit. TKGn - you for your time and consideration.
Holly Brantley
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November 20, 2024
NC DEQ Division of Water Resources
Attn: Derek Denard
Re: MMM Vanceboro Quarry Permit[Permit#: NC0089168]
Mr. Denard,
I am writing in response to Martin Marietta's renewal application for the above
referenced permit. The issuance of this permit would materially adversely impact Blounts Creek,
the proposed discharge location of the wastewater produced from MMM's mining activities.
My family and I have been visiting Blounts Creek for over 20 years. At the time the
litigation between Sounds River and Martin Marietta began, I was in middle school. Now in my
late twenties I am concerned about the future of the place where I have spent so much time
enjoying the natural resources that Blounts Creek has to offer. It should be remembered that this
case stayed in litigation during that decade long span of time for a reason. That reason being
the case had merit. The opposition had merit then and it still does today.
All of the science, research and findings presented during the decade-long period of
litigation surrounding this permit present a clear case that the dumping of mining discharge will
cause detrimental impacts to the naturally occurring brackish habitat of Blounts Creek. Once the
integrity of the Blounts Creek ecosystem has been compromised there is no return. Not in my
lifetime or my children's lifetime. This cannot be overlooked.
I agree that Martin Marietta should have the right to mine on land it owns, leases or
otherwise has permission to do so. I oppose NC DEQ's decision to grant MMM the ability to
discharge its mining waste in a way that will forever change an irreplaceable natural resource.
The residents of Blount's Creek, Beaufort County and beyond should not bear the burden of the
damaging byproduct of MMM's mining operations. The people who enjoy the waters of Blounts
Creek have a right to continue to enjoy all that the naturally occurring habitat has to offer without
interference and manipulation from outside sources.
Per NC DEQ's website, the department considers itself to be "the lead stewardship
agency for the protection of North Carolina's environmental resources". Thus, NC DEQ has an
obligation to protect the health of Blount's Creek as it occurs naturally. I understand that a court
decision has been made in this case and if NC DEQ will not make a stand to reverse its position
and revoke this permit, which I believe was originally issued erroneously, NC DEQ should take
every step possible to mitigate the effects through conditions, compliance requirements and
recourse options for the department if MMM does not strictly adhere to the conditions set forth in
the permit.

While I have been following this case for many years and stand behind the research and
efforts of the groups opposing this permit including Sounds River, North Carolina Coastal
Federation, Inc, and Save Blounts Creek, I have only recently begun to research some of the
underlying particulars of this case. However, there are a few points that immediately come to my
attention that I request NCDEQ to consider:
• Has MMM or Weyerhaeuser Co (as landowner of the proposed quarry location)
obtained drainage easements from all private landowners where MMM's
discharge will cross over to reach Blounts Creek.
• While I see reference to "regulatory citations"in the Draft permit, I would like to
ensure NC DEQ has thoughtfully considered its recourse options in the event
MMM does not adhere to the conditions set forth in the permit. Citations are
simply not enough. As with any agreement, the agreement is only as strong as
the two parties'intentions to follow it. If either party does not comply, all the other
party has left are the remedy rights as set forth in the agreement. NC DEQ's has
a mandate to be an advocate for me, as a resident of North Carolina, to protect
NC's environmental resources and I ask that strong rights are in place so NC
DEQ actually has "teeth"to enforce the conditions of this permit if MMM is in
breach.
• What resources will NC DEQ allocate to oversee compliance for this permit?
What is NC DEQ's proposed plan to ensure close monitoring and conditions are
being met?
Thank you for your consideration in this matter and my hope is that NC DEQ will take
appropriate steps to ensure the health and preservation of Blounts Creek on my behalf and on
the behalf of future generations.
Best Regards,
Holly Brantley
North Carolina Resident & Advocate for Preserving Blounts Creek

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From Robert Brantley
Date Wed 11/20/2024 12:49 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns. T
I have fished and boated in Blounts C ` nurtured respect and
appreciation for the creek in the 2 gene. rC :. . l+ on the part of a government
agency responsible for protecting wh!lIt);Qk*AV be a tragedy and would not
be forgotten.
For me personally and many more li R, wQgmt*,nlnd our money and go
somewhere else. But the residents AN panty will be forced watch this
disaster unfold.
Im at a loss for understanding how the resident "r IZhufort Qdftty "specifically" will benefit
from the proposed mine. As is often the case I'm sure the bulk of the money associated with this
operation will end up somewhere else.
Thank you,
Robert Brantley
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 milliir,,* �, i bns of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
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We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Susan Callahan
Chocowinity, North Carolina_
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From William Capel
Date Tue 11/19/2024 6:04 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
William Capel
Chocowinity ,, North Carolina-
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From Melissa Carlyle
Date Wed 11/20/2024 9:39 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Melissa Carlyle
Aurora, North Carolina -
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From George Carr
Date Wed 10/16/2024 12:25 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
.; ,_an voice their concerns.
-- emu,
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Faison, North Carolina-
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
nj�­�4:an voice their concerns.
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Faison, North Carolina-
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From Jackie Childs
Date Wed 11/20/2024 2:29 PM
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To whom this may concern,
First let me introduce myself. My name is Jackie Childs and my husband is Davio� C1)d0$.,. We recently
moved here to Blounts Creek. The reason for building our home on Blounts Cre'pk bt ability to
be able to fish.
We attended the public hearing on November 19, 2024. Evidence has been provided that the
ecosystem on Blounts Creek will change drastically if this permit goes through to allow the dumping of
12 million gallons of water per day from this project into Blounts Creek.
I have one question to be asked to the panel who will rendering a decision on this matter.
If this was going to happen in their backyard, would they sign off on it knowing the outcome is not
good for the ecosystem of Blounts Creek?
I thank you for your time and consideration of this matter.
Kind regards,
Mr. & Mrs. Childs
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To Whom It May Concern,
My name is Carol ReAnne Clifton, and I am a lifelong resident of Beaufort County, Nort`
Carolina. Having lived in the Blounts Creek area, I frequently engage in recreational
such as kayaking, swimming, boating, and fishing. Blounts Creek is not just a vital resccc'0341 ,
residents, visitors, and wildlife—it is part of our community's identity and a corn erstone,W Ur,
region's ecological and recreational economy.
I am writing to express my strong opposition to the proposed renewal of the NPDES Permit
(NC0089168) for Martin Marietta Materials' Vanceboro Quarry. This project poses significant
risks to our natural resources, local communities, and downstream ecosystems, and I urge
NCDEQ to deny this permit entirely.
Key Concerns:
1 . Risks to Blounts Creek and the Pamlico Sound
Blounts Creek is a delicate swamp ecosystem, and the dischar e 0 VIlix to 12,,ml In callons of
water per day is projected to alter its flow, temperature, sedime level- , andove%a11'ecology.
These changes risk disrupting habitats for native fish, aquatic piants, 94'4t�nthic.,pf'ganisms.
While the fact sheet states that "no significant adverse effects to .aq-71kii `r ate,gxpE-cted, this
conclusion relies on limited modeling and assumptions. The high
volumes of discharge remain uncertain. The flow will impact the neadWaters o�Bl6urrLs Creek
and downstream waters, including the Pamlico Sound Atha second-largest estuary in the
United States, recognized by Congress in 1987 under the National Estuary Program for its
ecological and economic importance. Increased sedirraeyntabon, altered hydrology, and nutrient
transport pose potential risks to this critical estuar
2. The Castle Hayne Aquifer is at Risk
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The proposed quarry operations will extract water primarily from the Castle Hayne Aquifer. This
aquifer is a vital groundwater resource for drinking water, agriculture, and ecosystems in
eastern North Carolina. Overextraction risks lowering the water table, increasing the potential
for saltwater intrusion, and causing permanent damage to this critical resource.
3. Disregard for Local Communities
Blounts Creek and its surrounding areas are home to underserved populations who rely on the
creek for recreation, sustenance, and economic activities such as fishing and tourism.
According to recent data, Beaufort County has a population of approximately 44,481 residents,
with Blounts Creek being a small unincorporated community within the county. Many residents
may not fully understand the implications of this project or their rights to question it. The
potential for degraded water quality could disproportionately harm these communities.
4. Lack of Independent Review and Community Engagement
While the fact sheet notes extensive studies and modeling, these studies were commissioned
by Martin Marietta and not independently conducted. The conclusions rely on assumptions
about minimal impact and do not guarantee long-term ecological safety. NCDEQ should require
an independent Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) to evaluate cumulative effects
comprehensively. Furthermore, community engagement since 2012 appears insufficient to fully
inform and involve local residents in this process.
5. Lack of Comprehensive Emergency Plans
Eastern North Carolina is prone to hurricanes and extreme weather events. The potential for
pipeline bursts, contamination from disturbed sediments, or failure of the dewatering system
raises concerns about flooding, wetland contamination, and threats to human health and safety.
The fact sheet does not include detailed emergency response plans, leaving residents and
ecosystems vulnerable in the event of infrastructure failure.
6. Alternatives Exist, and Martin Marietta Can Afford Them
The Engineering Alternatives Analysis reviewed in the fact sheet concluded that direct
discharge was the "most economical option." However, alternatives such as water recycling and
reuse were dismissed primarily due to higher costs. With a net worth of $37 billion, Martin
Marietta has the financial capacity to invest in sustainable practices that would avoid harming
Blounts Creek and the surrounding environment.
7. Chemical and Natural Risks
The fact sheet states that no chemicals are added to the discharge, but it acknowledges
significant levels of naturally occurring iron (21.8 mg/L) in groundwater from the Castle Hayne
Aquifer. Even without chemical additives, disturbed elements such as iron, phosphorus, and
sediments can disrupt aquatic ecosystems.
There is well-documented evidence of indirect impacts from industrial discharges, including
increased sediment loads and nutrient disturbances, which can result in harmful algal blooms,
oxygen depletion, and significant disruptions to aquatic ecosystems. Without rigorous
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monitoring and full transparency of these risks, the community and regulators cannot
adequately evaluate the long-term safety of this project.
8. Broader Federal Oversight and Case Studies
Given the Pamlico Sound's inclusion in the National Estuary Program, the EPA should oversee
this project's compliance with the Clean Water Act. Additionally, the Army Corps of Engineers
should review the hydrological impacts, particularly concerning flood risks. Similar projects in
other regions have documented cases of environmental harm when discharge practices failed,
demonstrating the need for broader scrutiny.
9. Public and Environmental Collaboration
Martin Marietta must work with the local community and environmental organizations to explain
the project, its risks, and alternatives. Hosting informational sessions and collecting public input
is crucial. Additionally, involving groups like Sound Rivers and the Coastal Federation, along
with scientific experts, would enhance the decision-making process.
Proposed Solutions:
Given the significant risks and the availability of alternative approaches, I strongly urge NCDEQ
to deny this permit renewal. Martin Marietta should be required to:
- Invest in onsite water recycling and reuse systems to eliminate the need for discharge into
local waterways.
- Conduct an independent, third-party Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) to evaluate all
potential environmental, social, and economic impacts, including cumulative effects.
- Develop and disclose comprehensive emergency plans, including strategies for containment,
remediation, and community evacuation in the event of infrastructure failure or natural
disasters.
- Require a hydrological analysis to assess how the proposed discharge could exacerbate
flooding during heavy rainfall or hurricanes.
- Ensure full disclosure of naturally occurring pollutants in the discharge and assess their
ecological risks.
- Involve federal oversight, including the EPA and Army Corps of Engineers, to evaluate the
broader implications of the project.
- Engage in transparent and meaningful community consultation, ensuring that residents are
informed and involved in decision-making processes.
Conclusion:
This project represents a short-term convenience for Martin Marietta at the expense of long-
term harm to our environment, communities, and natural resources. With their substantial
financial capacity, the company has the means to implement sustainable solutions that avoid
these risks entirely. I respectfully urge NCDEQ to reject this permit renewal and hold Martin
Marietta accountable for protecting the ecosystems and communities of eastern North Carolina.
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Thank you for considering my concerns. Please feel free to contact me at
if you require further information or clarification.
Sincerely,
Carol ReAnne Clifton
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From Ben Cohen
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 millie'He aeons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Y3> ? � Gtificantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
b I p ? ��5atic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
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t . � •¢ .t,... fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
`:�Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
rp-mcess can voice their concerns.
`dank you,
Ben Cohen
Chocowinity, North Carolina_
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From Benjamin Cohen
Date Wed 11/20/2024 2:52 PM
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I am writ ,hi,?
xpress my strong opposition to the renewal of NPDES Permit No. NCO089168 for Martin
Marietta;W 1,:.als' Vanceboro Quarry. As the owner of Cotton Patch Landing in Chocowinity, NC, our
business ti 3u>ated directly on Blounts Creek. Our operations, the livelihoods of our employees, and the
quality experiences we offer our guests are all intrinsically linked to the health and stability of Blounts
Creek.
The proposed permit would allow the discharge of up to 12 million gallons of freshwater per day into the
brackish headwaters of Blounts Creek. This massive influx threatens to alter the creek's natural salinity
and pH levels, which would disrupt the delicate ecosystem that supports diverse aquatic life and could
make the area less appealing to anglers, boaters, and nature enthusiasts—key demographics for our
business.
Additionally, the volume of water proposed for discharge raises significant concerns about increased
flooding risks. Cotton Patch Landing is situated directly along the creek, and our property, as well as
those of neighboring landowners, would be vulnerable to damage from flooding caused by the dramatic
changes to the creek's flow. Flooding could severely harm our facilities, disrupt operations, and impose
financial burdens that jeopardize our ability to continue supporting our employees and contributing to the
local economy.
This permit renewal could have long-term, irreversible effects not only on Blounts Creek's ecosystem but
also on the businesses and communities that depend on it. Our guests visit Cotton Patch Landing for the
pristine environment and recreational opportunities that Blounts CrecAk, '. -,,t-s. Any environmental
degradation or property damage resulting from this permit would dire'* �.�tidermine our ability to attract
visitors and maintain operations.
The significant community concern regarding this permit, evidenced by nearly 500 public comments and
a hearing scheduled for November 19, underscores the critical need for a thorough review and
reconsideration of this project. I urge the NCDEQ to prioritize the protection of Blounts Creek and deny
the renewal of this permit.
Thank you for considering my comments. Please do not hesitate to contact me if additional input or
information would be helpful.
Sincerely,
Ben
Ben Cohen
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From Ervin Daniels
Date Wed 11/20/2024 10:22 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Ervin Daniels
Aurora, North Carolina-
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From Trent Davenport
Date Wed 11/20/2024 2:14 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you_,
Trent Dav?v
Grifton, North Carolina-
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Date Fri 11/15/2024 7:17 PM
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Hi Derek,
Forwarding this email from Bob Daw, a long time Blounts Creek resident. Looks like he accidentally
mistyped your email address, but I wanted to make sure you received it.
Thanks!
Katey Zimmerman
Pamlico Tar Riverkeeper
Sound Rivers
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From: Bob Daw
Date: Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 12:16 PM
Subject: Fw: Blounts Creek facts
To: <katev(<)soundrivers.org,>
On Fri, 15 Nov, 2024 at 12:02 PM, me wrote:
To: denard0)deg.nc.aov
Hello,
My name is Bob Daw, I have lived on Blounts Creek waters for 20 years and
have fished it for 40 years. These are Brackish waters. The N-C. Marine
Fisheries have declared in print our Blounts Creek as a salt water fish
nursery and spawning area. A few years ago, I would prepare a weekly fishing
report for fish only caught in Blounts Creeks. I did this for a few years and still
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have some copies to share if needed. 80 percent of the fish caught in Blounts
Creek are salt water fish. Flounder, Puppy Drum, Black Drum, Speckle Trout,
etc. In the spring we can catch and release baby spots and croakers and
flounders at the very little end of the creek. These fish are needed to migrate out
into the big waters to aid our already declining saltwater fish populations. From
our dock my grandchildren can catch blue crabs with a string and chicken legs.
They enjoy watching the dolphins swim by. The Speckle Trout enter our creek
around November each year. Fishermen will flock to Blounts Creek from all
towns 80 miles west of her, Smithfield, Goldsboro, Wilson, Rocky Mount and
many days there will be over 100 boats packed into Blounts Creek to get a limit
to take back for their families. The Trout come in here and go to the very little
end to spawn! We have 4 pair of Eagles that live on Blounts Creek. Every March
we have over 12 pairs of Ospreys that show up to nest and raise their babies.
We have a large population of turtles and snakes and wildlife creatures like
frogs, salamanders, crawfish, etc.
A discharge of 12,000,000 gallons of hard ironed well water every 24 hours for
50 years would completely destroy this entire small coastal estuary. I will be
glad and honored to give you and others a slow pontoon boat tour of Blounts
Creek for you to see visually what's at stake here. I would welcome a phone call
at 919 630 4246 to offer more information. I will not go into my thoughts and
opinion of how It would be a sin, a big sin to let these waters be destroyed when
there are other options available.
Thank you for time,
Bob Daw
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From Bob Daw
Date Sat 11/16/2024 7:22 AM
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My name is Bob Daw, I have lived on Blounts Creek waters for 20 years and
have fished it for 40 years. These are Brackish waters_ The N.C. Marine Fisheries
have declared in print our Blounts Creek as a salt water fish nursery and
spawning area. A few years ago, I would prepare a weekly fishing report for fish
only caught in Blounts Creeks. I did this for a few years and still have some
copies to share if needed. 80 percent of the fish caught in Blounts Creek are salt
water fish. Flounder, Puppy Drum, Black Drum, Speckle Trout, etc. In the spring
we can catch and release baby spots and croakers and flounders at the very little
end of the creek. These fish are needed to migrate out into the big waters to aid
our already declining saltwater fish populations_ From our dock my
grandchildren can catch blue crabs with a string and chicken legs. They enjoy
watching the dolphins swim by. The Speckle Trout enter our creek around
November each year. Fishermen will flock to Blounts Creek from all towns 80
miles west of her, Smithfield, Goldsboro, Wilson, Rocky Mount and many days
there will be over 100 boats packed into Blounts Creek to get a limit to take back
for their families. The Trout come in here and go to the very little end to spawn!
We have 4 pair of Eagles that live on Blounts Creek. Every March we have over
12 pairs of Ospreys that show up to nest and raise their babies. We have a large
population of turtles and snakes and wildlife creatures like frogs, salamanders,
crawfish, etc.
A discharge of 12,000,000 gallons of hard ironed well water every 24 hours for 50
years would completely destroy this entire small coastal estuary. I will be glad and
honored to give you and others a slow pontoon boat tour of Blounts Creek for you
to see visually what's at stake here. I would welcome a phone call at 919 630
4246 to offer more information. I will not go into my thoughts and opinion of how It
would be a sin, a big sin to let these waters be destroyed when there are other
options available.
Thank you for time,
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Hearing comments
Heather Deck, ED, Sound Rivers, Beaufort County resident
first learned of the proposed mine and discharge permit in 2011 , when I
was the then Pamlico-Tar Riverkeeper for Sound Rivers-Now as the
Execljfive Director, I have stood for almost 15 years with the resider<lss of
Blounts Creek who have asked the North Carolina Departmeent o
Environmental Quality for reasonable and available alternatives to t ,e mine
wastewater discharge-- alternatives that were never fully vetted by the
agency or the company. You will hear (have d) tonight the many stories
of why a healthy and natural Blounts Creek is important to the local
residents and the economy of our county. You have heard (will hear) from
our Riverkeeper that the permit does not comply with the requirements of
the Clean Water Act, is not enforceable in any meaningful way and fails to
protect the integrity of a healthy and vibrant Blounts Creek.
I know that DEQ has been systematically diminished and underfunded by
the general assembly, attacked by big business and abandoned by the state
courts- I understand the struggle you have faced
If ever there was a time and place to take a stand against those that would
seek to turn you from a regulatory agency to simply a permitting agency for
business and industry, it's now. These residents have waited for almost 15
years for you to do the right thing and to use the regulatory authority under
the clean water act, state law and the intent of the state's constitution to
protect Blounts creek. Now is the time to advocate for the natural
environment you are s G�'�� .� � � protect'- ef protect the economic interest
of big business that seeks to profit from it at the expense of local residents.
You do that- you use your authority to do the right thing, and we, the
community, will stand with you.

PC comments
First learned of the proposed mine and discharge permit in 2011 , when I
was the then Pamlico-Tar Riverkeeper for Sound Rivers. I have spent
considerable time on the creek, enjoying the vibrant natural environment,
watching residents and visitors swim, fish, boat and bird watch on the creek;
I have explored the creek where river herring have returned after decades of
absence. Now as the Executive Director, I have stood for almost 15 years
with the residents of Blounts Creek who have asked the North Carolina
Department of Environmental Quality for reasonable and available
alternatives to the mine wastewater discharge-- alternatives that were never
fully vetted by the agency or the company. You will hear tonight the many
stories of why a healthy and natural Blounts Creek is important to the local
residents and the economy of our A;ounty.
Since 2011 , numerous state agencies have commented on the impact of
such a discharge to Blounts Creek. The DMF and WRC both noted how
special Blounts Creek is to eastern NC fisheries and that the creek is a
widely used resource by the public. Blounts creek maintains a vibrant,
diverse and healthy population of both freshwater and saltwater fish
species. Both resource agencies objected to the permitted discharge
proposed in DEQ's permit due to the harm they note is likely to occur from
the wastewater discharge of this magnitude.
Sound Rivers and the Blounts Creek residents are here again tonight, blc
the department, through the release of its draft wastewater discharge permit
and intent to issue a permit for 12 MGD, has failed to protect the integrity of
a beloved waterway, failed to follow the state's constitution for the protection
of our natural resources; failed to comply with the clean water act by
attempting to issue a permit that neither protects Blounts Creek nor is
enforceable in any meaningful way. Sound Rivers is proud to stand with
local residents tonight as we advocate for protection of Blounts Creek.

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From TonyCindy Dixon
Date Wed 11/20/2024 8:55 AM
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I am opposed to renewing Martin Marietta Material's permit to release wastewater into Blounts Creek,
NC or any natural waterway in North Carolina for that matter.
It is highly questionable what materials might be in "co-mingled storm water". Storm water is known
to have many harmful contaminants and we shouldn'tjust dump these materials in fragile
ecosystems.
Crushed limestone has many benefits. It is used by farmers and gardeners to fertilize crops and control
insects. However, I believe that in this situation all benefits are outweighed by the43otentW harmful
impact. Crushed limestone actually suffocates the insects and dries them out. It kilkau rrt-sects, the so
called good and bad. Limestone is caustic and can cause burns to skin of the am4ads-art€ humans that
come into contact with it. Limestone causes respiratory damage and although Mom M9Setta
Materials will be dumping into water, a residual layer will be formed on dry surfkesskirrounding the
water. Plants, insects and animals exposed to the materials that Martin Marietta f4i.,,-,,trials wants to
dump in their natural environment will be at great risk and that's a risk that I am opposed to
supporting.
Natural waterways axe fragile ecosystems and should be protected. These waterways are essential for
all life forms in,':*,,d4 g humans. We cannot let convenience and monetary gains destroy our natural
resources. Wh be ecosystems die because of human error, it will be catastrophic on all levels.
Please- protect our environment and deny the renewal of this permit now and all future requests to
durnp materials into North Carolina's natural waterways.
Thank you.
Cynthia Dixon
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NCDEQ-DWR Director and Staff,
I am writing to request public hearings about the draft NPDES
permit No.NC0089168 for the Martin Marietta Materials
limestone quarry and to request a 60-day extension on the
comment period. This permit has generated continued and ..
significant public interest over the last 15 years with continued
concerns regarding water quality,recreation,and landowner well
impacts.etc.related to the permitted 12 MGD discharge.There
are now many new residents who should have the opportunity to
comment and ask questions at a public hearing.DWR has the
opportunity to review new data and information that is relevant
to the current conditions of Blounts Creek as well as permit 1l
conditions and compliance with North Carolina rules and
regulations.
Thank you for you consideration of these requests.
Sincerely,
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From Chandler Eberly
Date Wed 11/20/2024 1:00 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Chandler Eberly
Garner, North Carolina-
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From Vicki Falconer
Date Wed 11/20/2024 11:02 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Vicki Falconer
Goldsboro, North Carolina-
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MY NAME IS GEORGE FOSTER AND I LIVE ON BLOUNTS
CREEK. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK ABOUT MY HOME. BLOUNTS CREEK IS A BRACKISH
ESTURARY THAT PROVIDES A SPAWNING AREA AND
NURSERY FOR MANY SALT WATER SPECIES. DUMPING 12
MILLION GALLONS OF POLLUTED 'UNA77.71 EVERY DAY WILL
DESTROY THIS SANCTUARY. MY (A,,% ,1440CHILDREN WILL NO
LONGER CATCH FLOUNDER, TRO3.5,-1f, CRABS OR SEE
PORPOSIES SWIM IN THE CREEK, AND EAGLES FLY ABOVE
IT. THE PH AND SALINITY OF -HE WATER WILL BE
CHANGED IRREPABBLY, AND ALL Or YOU KNOW THAT IS
TRUE. HOW CAN WATER SAMPLING FROM A SINGLE POINT
AT THE S^'.IRCE OF THE DISCHARGE BE AN INDICATOR OF
THE WH(oi5 fir=- CREEK? AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
SAIMPLII46? WHAT ARE To I6' P ROVISl'Gv4S FOR �1�ii�►SS1`�f�o
STORM WATER RUN OFFS FROM A HURRICANE? WE NEB
ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS.
BLOUNTS CREEK IS MY HOME. MYSELF AND
HUNDREDS OF OTHER RESIDENTS SAVED AND INVESTED
THEIR HARD EARNED MONE ' '- _- 0 BUY A HOME OR BUILD
HERE. MANY LIKE MYSELb` �PF RETIRED. THEY MADE
THAT INVESTMENT SO THAT '.""S.Y COULD LIVE AND
ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THIS UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT.
TWO OF MY NEIGHBORS MOVED MERE FROM MARYLAND SO
THAT THEY COULD CATCH CRABS ONCE AGAIN. I FISH FOR
TROUT IN MY 10 FOOD' JON BOAT AND MY
GRANDCHILDREN CATCH CRABS FROM THE DOCK.
BLOUNTS CREEK IS NOT ONLY OUR HOME, IT'S OUR LIVES.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE FOR
THE SAME REASONS AND FEEL THE SAME WAY. HOW CAN
YOU ALLOW A COMPANY TO DESTROY OUR LIVES AND OUR
PROPERTY VALUES? NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE ON A DEAD
CREEK. ONCE THE CREEK IS DESTROYED, WHERE ARE WE
GOING TO GO? PVdr 1(rV Ak SffL 1p ,41 JL fair
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU. HAVE YOU
BEEN ON OUR CREEK? HAVE YOU BEEN ON IT RECENTLY? 1
INVITE YOU TO GO ON A SHORT TOUR ON OUR CREEK. IT
WILL ONLY TAKE A COUPLE OF HOURS OF YOUR TIME. I
WILL PROVIDE THE BOAT. PLEASE DO YOUR DUE
DILLIGENCE AND AT LEAST SEE OUR CREEK BEFOR YOU
MAKE A DECISION THAT WILL DESTROY OUR CREEK AND
OUR LIVES.
THANK YOU
George Foster
B ounts Creek, NC

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[External] Public Comments: NPDES Wastewater Permit NC0089168-Vanceboro Quarry
From Scott Gardner
Date Thu 11/7/2024 2:20 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Scott Gardner
Chocowinity ,, North Carolina-
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From Landon Gordon
Date Wed 11/20/2024 1:01 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process
Thank yo_';.
Landon G *�`-
Washingto T�so
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From Cathy Hare
Date Wed 11/20/2024 12:30 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Cathy Hare
Aurora , North Carolin�
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From Kelly Harris
Date Wed 11/20/2024 4:57 PM
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Hello,
My name is Kelly Harris. 1 am a 33 year old male that moved to a waterfront home on Blount's Creek
with wife a little over a yeas ago. I have concerns with the environmental and economical impacts that
the wastewater from the Martin Marietta mine will have on our creek and surrounding ecosystem.
Environmentally, I believe the discharge of 12 million gallons of fresh groundwater per day into our
brackish ecosystem would significantly change the chemistry of our creek by increasing the pH and
decreasing salinity. I believe these changes would affect the ecosystem in a negative manner and drive
out the fish and other wildlife that are in and around the creek.
Economically, I am concerned that the discharge by Martin Marietta will affect the property values of
our homes. Blount's Creek is a very desirable place to live and visit, but changes to its current
ecosystem might change that. Would homeowners be compensated if that happened? I am also
concerned that places such as Cotton Patch Landing, which serves the thriving recreational fishing on
Blount's Creek would be negatively impacted with a loss of customers. Would they be compensated?
What would be done by the state or Martin Marietta to compensate these losses.
In several of the publicly available documents on DEQ's website, alternative proposals for handling the
wastewater were discussed. All of them were dismissed on economic bases. Why are we dismissing
alternatives because of cost? Martin Marietta is a multi-billion dollar company. Surely they can spend a
little more on wastewater removal for the sake of the environment.
I have to admit, as a citizen born and raised in NC, I am very disappointed and frustrated with our state
agencies in even letting this be an issue. The mission statement of the North Carolina Department of
Environmental Quality is stated as "Providing science-based environmental stewardship for the health
aad_p a Pricy of ALL North Carolinians" If that is the true mission of DEQ, how did we even get here?
How did it come to this. Has DEQ simply become a permitting agency and forgone its mission? DO the
people of Blount's Creek not count as North Carolinians?
I ask simply, that DEQ adhere to its mission, and deny the reissuance of the permit to Martin Marietta
for the Vanceboro Quarry as currently written, until modifications can be made that better serve the
good of the environment and people of the Blount's Creek area.
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"Providing science-based environmental stewardship for the health and
prosperity of ALL N arth Carolinians."
Thank you,
Kelly Harris
Chocowinity, NC
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From Betsy Hester
Date Wed 11/20/2024 9:19 AM
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My name is Betsy Hester, and I am on the Board of Directors for Sound Rivers. My husband, Joe
Hester, is past president of Pamlico Tar River Foundation (now Sound Rivers), past chairman of the NC
Clean Water Management Trust Fund, and a past member of the Coastal Resources Commission. We
own a home in hist�,�nc 'E=1t shington that overlooks our beautiful river, so as you can see, we we deelpiy
invested in clear, 1.vatc3-r �0 our community and our state water resources.
The permit to di-eharhe 11 million gallons of waste, storm, and runoff water into Blounts Creek mid-
be DENIED! It will iea6i i:o catastrophic consequences to the estuary, the flora, and the fauna, and will
not be limited to that creek. The ripple effect could be and will be disastrous. Twelve million gallons of
basic (high ph) water will completely change the ecology of Blounts Creek. Such a volume of fresh
water, now an estuarine creek and "swamp water," will result in Blounts Creek's demise. It will cease to
exist as we know it. Wells will be impacted,just as they were when Texas Gulf created the Aurora
Phosphate Mine. Many wells collapsed and had to be completely reconstructed. It resulted in
significant draw down from the Castle Hayne aquifer, and the new permit will exacerbate an already
delicate situation. Beaufort County relies on the Castle Hayne aquifer for its drinking water.
Should this permit be approved and allowed to move forward, we will not recognize Blounts Creek in
five years. We have the chance to do the right thing. It's time to begin considering alternatives that
leave positive results and only have a positive impact on this beautiful and necessary estuary.
There is NO planet B.
Deny the permit.
Betsv and Joe Hester
Washington, NC
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From May, David <[e-mail]>
Date Wed 11/20/2024 9:41 AM
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David May, L.G.
Supervisor, Water Quality Regional Operations Section, Washington Regional Office
Division of Water Resources I North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
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From:Stacey Harris<[e-mail]
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To: May, David<[e-mail]>
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Hi David,
Just forwarding this public comment. I also have a voicemail from this gentleman. I believe
WITN referenced calling us which should have been you guys.
Thanks!
Stacey
Stacey L. Harris, REHS
Environmental Health Supervisor
Beaufort County Health Department
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Good morning!
My name is Chris Hill. I live on Blounts Bay, at the mouth of the creek. I have grown up enjoying the wonderful
paradise I call home. I am 53 years old and have memories of my dad taking me fishing on Blounts Creek. I also
have memories of taking my son and girlfriends children fishing on BC. I am opposed to Martin Marietta dumping
its water into the Creek, as it would drastically change the ecosystem that I truly love!
I understand the need for mining. I just think there should be another solution to what to do with the extra
water. There are shortages of fresh water around the globe. Isn't there other options???
Sincerely
Chris Hill
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From George Hines
Date Wed 11/20/2024 2:59 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
George Hines
Cary, North Carolina-
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Debra Hollis
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Leanna Hudson
Chocowinity , North Carolina-
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Eleanor Hunter
Raleigh, North Carolina-
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Mary Ellen Hunter, representing CCA: I have been fishing with my dad on the Pungo
Creek, Pungo River, Pamlico, and in and around Blounts Creek since I was 7-years-old.
So, when I first heard about this issue, I wondered how suddenly dumping 12 MILLION
gallons of freshwater a day, into brackish headwaters, would affect the entire ecosystem....
Well, I've had a thriving 20-gallon brackish water fish tank for years, full of plants and
fish(like guppies, gobies, etc...) So- I decided to conduct a little experiment.
Just as Martin Marietta Materials plans to do, I sporadically dumped an unparalleled
amount of freshwater into my brackish tank,just to see what would happen.At first, I
noticed the plants start to wither and all my fish turned white. While they really struggled
to stay alive, unfortunately it wasn't long before I watched every plant and all.217 of my
pet fish, die a slow and painful death.
***STOP***
Sounds awful,right?I sound like a fish killer. Well, don't worry; every na can breathe
now because I spared my fish this pain. I mean, I work for Coastal Conservation
Association for crying out loud so of course I didn't do this... Because I know enough
about this subject, and have done enough research,to know that these harsh conditions
and such an imbalance in salinity levels, would literally destroy any living organism...
If you wouldn't do this to your kid's fishtank, don't do this to an entire thriving
ecosystem.
Let's talk about my research... It is scientifically proven that if you add too much
freshwater to a brackish water ecosystem, the salinity levels will significantly decrease,
causing too much stress to the plants and animals adapted to brackish water conditions.
They are not equipped to handle such a sudden change in salt concentration. The fish will
start to take in too much water through their gills, due to osmosis, causing them to swell
from internal organ damage as their cells become diluted and they WILL die.
These are the facts. I hope this little TED Talk put things into perspective. Thank you.

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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
John Jenkins
Winterville, North Carolina-
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Dear Mr. Denard, Tuesday, November 19, 2024
NCDEQ should not reissue the NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
1. The two discharge points are upstream sites which commonly have zero flow or only
simple gentle groundwater seepage. The discharge of up to 6 million gallons at each
of these points would have a scouring velocity thus transmitting organic mud, silt,
and clay downstream into the clear, tannic, waters of the larger Blounts Creek..
2. The discharge, even at pH 7 (the permit allows pH 8), is more than 300 times more
alkaline than the natural pH 4.5 of the receiving creek. (I know pH 7. sounds like
maybe only a little less than twice as alkaline but it is a log scale.) Also, regarding
pH effects, these Castle Hayne waters likely have a subvter'fi-il buffering capacity in
contrast with the receiving water. Thus,the change to be-- xf�,rienced by Blounts
Creek may be considerably more than a result of a calcutated "concentration of a
mix."
3. 1 suspect the impact of the change in pH is not appreciated by those issuing the
permit. The current productive flora and fauna of Blounts Creek have adapted ov
centuries to the current stable condi1 The effect of the change by the permitted
discharge has not been evaluated.
that the state may have abuilt-in experience-reinforced idea that acid streams
ar-bad (downstream from coal mines for example) and neutral is sweet, not sour,
;fri Jood. But the beautiful and productive natural resource of Bounts Creek which
, ,r,
is being defended by folks interacting with it, dependent upon it, knowing it as a
bountiful and beautiful resource, and loving it as it is, should not be threatened by
this proposed mine.
5. Please also consider a modification of the permit. Instead of this controversial
discharge to Blounts Creek where everyone&Milstream is threatened and
justifiably angered, keep the water where it 5-, '$ )quire reinjection of ta,e dewatering
back to the aquifer from which it came. This has multi-ole advantages. A. it toes not
damage Blounts Creek. B. It shows respect for the opinion of those w ro velue
Blounts Creek and C. It does not deplete the precious Castle Hayne Aquifer—which
is already drawn down, creating capacity use areas and hardships for towns in those
areas. Even if this option is substantially more costly to Martin Marietta Materials it
is the only proper option. In the current permit Martin Marietta is profiting by
choosing to use Blounts CraeK as a disposal site. Blounts Creek is NOT a disposal
site.
6. 1 share an observatio;i otthe impact of freshwater on brackish water fauna in my
laboratory at East Ga?ot '-ia i-Iniversity. A quite small pulse of fresh water into

brackish water aquaria completely disrupted the spawning behavior of brackish
water clams. This is only one tiny example of just one unexpected effect of altered
salinity. In the natural, complex, and myriad elements of the beautiful Blounts Creel
ecosystem such disruptions would be likely cascading. Far beyond the simplistic
assurances of the apparently unappreciative, profit-motivated investors in Martin
I` Tietta.
th-re may be times when a freshwater flush is good. As in flushing a toilet. If
anyone at NCDEQ holds any notion that this discharge may have such value get rid
of that idea. Blounts Creek is not a commode needing flushing. It is a resource
worth protecting.
Please consider the rights and the dignity of those folks who know the value of undisturbed
Blounts Creek. Please consider the Blounts Creek ecosystem. Do not reissue this
discharge permit.
Thank you,
�.
Bernard E Kane Jr,
Retired Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Environmental Hea/th�
East Carolina University
Greenville, NC

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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue the NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
1. The two discharge points are upstream sites which commonly have zero flow or only simple
gentle groundwater seepage. The discharge of up to 6 million gallons at each of these points
would have a scouring velocity thus transmitting organic mud , silt, and clay downstream into the
cl �ic, waters of the larger Blounts Creek..
2. ._A charge, even at pH 7 (the permit allows pH 8), is more than 300 times more alkaline
thatnVieVnatural pH 4.5 of the receiving creek. (I know pH 7. sounds like maybe only a little less
than twice as alkaline but it is a log scale.)Also, regarding pH effects, these Castle Hayne waters
likely have a substantla, r , ;;ing caps F 1 1, ''t '2 Est with the receiving water. Thus, the change
to be experienced by B� reek r �'iarably more than a result of a calculated
•.
"concentration of a mix:'
3. I suspect the impact of the changeiig ppreciated by those issuing the permit. The
current productive flora and fauna of 6Idunts C�ee have adapted over centuries to the current
sable conditions. The effect of the change by the permitted discharge has not been evaluated.
4. 1 fear that the state may have a built-in experience-reinforced idea that acid streams are bad
(downstream from coal mines for example) and neutral is sweet, not sour, and good. But the
beautiful and productive natural resource of Bounts Creek which is being defended by folks
interacting with it, dependent upon it, knowing it as a bountiful and beautiful resource, and loving
it as it is, should not be threatened by this proposed mine.
5. Please consider a modification of the permit. Instead of this controversial discharge to Blounts
Creek where everyone downstream is threatened and justifiably angered, keep the water where
it is. Require reinjection of the dewatering back to the aquifer from which it came. This has
multiple advantages. A. It does not damage Blounts Creek. B. It shows respect for the opinion of
those who value Blounts Creek and C. It does not deplete the precious Castle Hayne Aquifer—
_vbich.jk.Vlready drawn down creating capacity use areas and hardships for towns in those
` - n if this option is substantial) more cost) to Martin Marietta Materials it is the only
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Sg4tion. In the current permit Martin Marietta is profiting by choosing to use Blounts Creek
" ± sal site. Blounts Creek is NOT a disposal site.
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6. 1 share an observation of the impact of fresh water on brackish water fauna in my laboratory at
East Carolina University.A quite small pulse of fresh water into brackish water aquaria
completely disrupted the spawning behavior of brackish water clams. This is only one tiny
example of just one unexpected effect of altered salinity. In the natural, complex, and myriad
elements of the beautiful Blounts Creel ecosystem such disruptions would be likely cascading.
Far beyond the simplistic assurances of the apparently unappreciative, profit-motivated investors
n Martin Marietta.
7. There may be times when a freshwater flush is good.As in flushing a toilet. If anyne at
NCDEQ holds any notion that this discharge may have such value, get rid of that idea. Blounts
Creek is not a commode needing flushing. It is a resource worth protecting.
Please consider the rights and the dignity of those folks who know the value of undisturbed
Blounts Creek. Please consider the Blounts Creek ecosystem. Do reissue the existing permit.
Thank you,
Bernard E Kane Jr,
Retired Professor Emeritus
East Carolina University
Bernard Kane
Greenville, North Carolina=
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard, Wednesday, November 20, 2024
NCDEQ should not reissue the NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The is an unfortunate parallel between the unfortunate previous issue of a discharge permit in
Florida.
In the 1960's, prior to the 1972 Clean Water Act, the State of Florida declared the Ecofina River
in western Florida (Taylor County discharging into Apalachee Bay) an "Industrial River."
This act allowed a paper mill in that county unlimited discharge of the paper mill wastes into the
headwaters of that stream. The consequences were severe including transport of sequestered
iron into the Gulf of Mexico. There the iron was implicated in stimulating the growth of vast toxic
red tide algal blooms. These blooms killed many millions of fish which washed ashore creating a
grand odorous mess devastating to both fisheries and the tourist industry.
Over decades, implementation of the Clean Water Act of 1972 and 1977, regulated that
discharge and the red tide and fish kills are diminished.
My point is not that this Martin Marietta permit would cause red tide. My point is that permitting
the 12 MGD discharge, is in its essence, converts Blounts Creek into an "Industrial Stream." That
practice was barely tolerable in the mid-20th Century before the Clean Water Act and is
unacceptable today.
The highest and best use of Blounts Creek is not to carry industrial wastewater. I plead with
NCDEQ do not reissue that permit.
Thank you,
Bernard E Kane Jr,
Retired Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Environmental Health
East Carolina University
Current Address" Greenville, NC
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into th 7 g.iwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change tx`1;°>;70t allowable under
North Card. ' water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aq } ecies can survive in those waters, and state law is clear: a discharge of waste
cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin 1 Matey.1x,kl'�� NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful f . public h*' about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you for your consideration,
Mark Keane
Twin Rivers Paddle Club
Mark Keane
Trent Woods, North Carolina-
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Wayne Lanning
Chocowinity, North Carolina_
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process ct*4;4C
Thank yob<. ;:�
Carol Land ._
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I
�-".ments for public hearing on the Martin Marietta Materials proposed permit to discharge
de nratering and waste water into Blount's Creek, NC
Nov 19, 2024
Good Evening.
My name is Ernie Larkin. I live on the Pamlico River near Blount's Creek. I know Blount's Creek
well, having spent time on it and in it most years of my life.
MY purpose inspeaking tonight ht is to ask you to not issue this permit.
I'm speaking not only on behalf of my children and grandchildren—and yours—but on behalf
of the fish and crabs and frogs and weeds and worms in the mud of Blount's Creek. If this
discharge permit is approved, their slow moving creek, a lush mixing area for fresh and salt
water, will be scoured by massive amounts of fresh water and surely and irrevocably destroyed.
I have been a member of the Coastal Resources Commission and the Environmental
Management Commission, and I am familiar with the difficult decisions you have to make
involving different stakeholders and differing perspectives. In my opinion,this is not one of
those decisions. The only beneficiaries of this permit are stockholders of Martin Marietta.
Others will comment on ways the permit can clearly be improved, if issu cl, indud—'ing se-rpling
and what happens when violations occur. I agree with them and s ecifir_ally XA.ith the SEL.0
comments of November 14.
But I just don't think this permit should be issued at all. l think it's wrong.. I don't think t�iis
water should ever be pumped into this little creek. No one shoul..�-*s r ermitte�! to de,-,troy a
whole natural ecosystem. No one should allow anyone else to do it either.

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Dear Derek Denard,
I am opposed to reissuance, or renewal, of a NPDES Wastewater Discharge permit to Martin
Marietta Materials Inc. to discharge wastewater into the waters of Blounts Creek located in the
Tar-Pamlico River Basin.
I was born in Washington, North Carolina in 1944. I'm an old man now. Lived here all my life.
Have spent much of my time in or on the water. Have seen many changes. That may not qualify
me as an expert, but I think that it certainly gives me standing.
In addition to dumping up to 12 million gallons of wastewater into Blounts Creek and causing
irreparable disruption and damage to the ecosystem , the depressuring of the Castle Hayne
aquifer will further threaten our ground water with salt water intrusion and this will be
exacerbated by sea level rise and climate change induced droughts in the future. Aga result of
depressuring the aquifer to accommodate the open pit phosphate mine just a few rreza east of
the proposed MMM mine site, we in Beaufort County have inherited the most undesirable
designation as the first "Capacity Use Area" in North Carolina.
And, further depressuring may cause land subsidence leading to more problems associated
with sea level rise.
The only good thing in this scenario will be the denial of renewal, or reissuance, of the NPDES
permit to MMM.
Sincerely,
Dick Leach
Washington, N.C. -
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From Jean Leggett
Date Wed 11/20/2024 11:09 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Jean Leggett
WILLIAMSTON, North Carolina-
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Hi,
I attended the public comment and here is my written statement after the public comment:
I am Ana advanced practice registered nurse, Professor of nursing and serve as the chairperson for the
gilead shores home owners association located at the mouth of the creek.
I support the sentiments of all present tonight and add a concern of the physical health of citizens
who live in Blounts Creek.
There is no shortage of literature that identifies that environmental health impacts the physical health
of people in that community. Physical wellbeing of a community affects the economy.
The blounts creek community if rural, low income and is classified as a food desert. Individuals utilize
the waterways and swamp lands for sustenance. We don't know what tolls the change in salinity,
water temperature and water tables will do those food sources.
Please look at those impacts as well as those on the environmental health of the community.
Thank you,
Dr. Julie M. Linder
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From Doreen Livermon
Date Fri 10/18/2024 8:20 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Doreen Livermon
Greenville, North Carolina-
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From Lillianna Mayo
Date Wed 11/20/2024 4:01 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Lillianna mayo
Lillianna Mayo
Chocowinity, North Carolina_
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Well, Permit#NC0089168 should never have been granted years ago. A lot has changed in respect to
water quality and recreational fishing regulations. North Carolina spends a lot of man power and
money to bolster these attributes that our state has. Why would the state allow any company to
jeopardize our pristine water resources?
Next question... what happens when MMM is dumping 20 million gallons of water per day? Slap them
on the wrist with a measly fine? The damage is done! You can bet that EPA violation fees are already
factored into their budget. Just let the people downstream deal with the aftermath.
Make MMM come up with a better plan to get rid of their waste water. That would be the
simplest solution to this problem. Thank you. Christie McLawhorn. Lifelong resident of North Carolina
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am a resident of Bay Harbour, a HOA community on Blounts Creek. I am now retired having
worked in NC all my life. I now spend my recreational time on the creek along with many others
in my position. The permit Martin Marietta is requesting will end that along with destroying the
ecosystem we all have come to love. I am very much opposed to the permit they are seeking.
Their action will drag down property values we have worked for all our lives. Please do not grant
this permit.
Thank You for your consideration,
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From Judith Meyer
Date Mon 11/18/2024 9:14 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you, Judith Meyer
Judith Meyer
WASHINGTON, North Carolina
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Good morning and thank you for entertaining my thoughts pertaining to the Quarry Permit.
My name is Christina and I am a resident of Little Washington, NC for the last 5 years and prior to that
resided in Vanceboro for 17 years.
For the last 10 years, I have gone out on my kayak twice a month to every single one of the local creeks
in New Bern, Vanceboro, Chocowinity and Washington to clean litter and refuse from our watenvvays to
increase the natural beauty and to clean up after those that think our waterways are a trash receptac[,6,. It
has been a mission of mine to restore nature every chance I get. I have cleaned up thousands of pounds
over the years. I am also a dedicated volunteer for Sound Rivers.
I was at the hearing last night and wanted to say something, but it was running very long and I knew
everybody wanted to go home, including you two. In addition to all the well thought out educated ideas
and pleas that were presented against the Vanceboro quarry runoff last night, I'd like to include a point
of view not discussed. Yours.
I would like you guys and whoever else is on the deciding board of the department of water quality to
think about if YOU were to live on Blounts Creek. How would you feel about your home being devalued
without any say? How would you feel about your children not being able to play in the creeks, go fishing,
pick up turtles, investigate worms in the dirt? Would you want to go out fishing or for a boat ride
knowing the water below you is dead? How would you feel knowing that you are responsible for the
birds flying elsewhere for nourishment? Would you be able to sleep at night knowing that this decision
would have a hand in killing all the flora and fauna in this area and much more downstream?
If you start this process without fully thinking through the ramifications, you will be the reason why
people move out of this area. This decision is not for man to make. We live in mother nature's bounty
every day and we benefit from the beauty and fuel it provides to us all. Take a moment to think about
the future of this area and decide for yourselves if it's a place that YOU would like to live in, or move
from. It is bad enough we have to contend with pig farms and the stupidity of rules that don't protect
this area as it is. You would be making this much worse.
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There were four other solutions presented to you, and I'm sure the combination of some of them would
be beneficial to your project. One man mentioned doing the right thing would be more expensive yet
you could charge more for the lime stone you are creating. We live in a capitalistic society and I am
aware of those that place the livelihood of others under the importance of making a buck. Do not be
those people. Be the superheroes of our area and do the right thing regarding this permit. If you allow
this permit to go through, it's just the beginning of the abuse that our county will take. If this permit is
granted, other similar permits would be allowed to follow in the footsteps of this one and then we have
severely lost the limits of what we would do for a dollar.
Stand up tall. Be able to sleep at night. Be on the waterway with pride, knowing that you stood up for
the little man against large corporations. What are the lengths that you would go to protect YOUR
house and YOUR yard and YOUR family and YOUR community? If you think about that, you will know
how these local people feel about this area with a passion. They cannot be ignored. They cannot be
pushed aside. They matter and their opinion matters just as yours does. If you do this, you divide this
into us and them scenario. You will wind up being the bad guys and this state will no longer be able to
put their trust in your department. We as a people want to trust your actions and decisions.
Thank you for your time,
Christina M.
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From Roland Modlin,Jr.
Date Wed 11/20/2024 10:24 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Roland Modlin, Jr.
Washington, North Carolina-
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From Phyllis Moore
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Subject: Request for Denial of Permit Application for Mine Dewatering and Stormwater Discharge
Dear Sir/Madame:
I am writing to formally request that the permit application submitted by Vanceboro Quarry owned by
Martin Marietta Materials, Inc.,for discharging mine dewatering and comminrlpd stormwater into
Blounts Creek Bay, a designated Nutrient Sensitive Water (NSW) body, I strongly believe
that approving this permit would severely harm the local ecosystem, the of our residents, and
the natural resources that are vital to our community.
Our area, which is unincorporated and home to a few thousand residents, is not only a peaceful,
residential area but also one that thrives on its natural beauty and recreational opportunities. The
surrounding waterways are an essential source of livelihood for many, providing abundant resources
such as fish, crabs, and dolphins, as well as opportunities for bird watching and other recreational
activities. These resources contribute to both the well being of residents and the local economy,
attracting visitors and supporting small businesses that rely on tourism and recreation.
rolluting the waterway with mine dewatering and stormwater would have catastrophic consequences
o�:;r the environment. These activities would introduce harmful pollutants into the water, leading to the
destruction of marine life and the depletion of biodiversity. The acidic erosion and chemical
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contamination resulting from the discharge would endanger fish and other aquatic species, disrupting
the entire food chain and killing off the sea animals that residents and visitors alike depend on.
Furthermore, the long-term,; uences of this pollution would erode the area's natural beauty,
diminish its value as a recre � destination, and ultimately harm the taxpaying residents,
decreasing the value of their=hUirfies, who have worked to preserve the environment.
It is evident that the issuing of this permit fails to consider the interests of the community and the
sustainability of the ecosystem. The proposed discharge poses a threat not only to local wildlife but
also to the economic viability of the area. I urge you to reject this permit in order to protect the
integrity of our environment, the livelihoods of local residents, and the natural resources that are
essential to our quality of life—not to give more attention to the owners of a company, who only
stands to profit, and not to the residents, who only stands to lose. Which do you, as representatives of
the people [residents of the County], care more for?
Thank you for your time and consideration of this important matter. I look forward to your response
and trust that you will take the necessary steps to ensure that our waterways and surrounding
ecosystems remain protected for generations to come.
Sincerely,
Phyllis Moore Johnson, Blounts Creek Resident
This letter is structured to emphasize the environmental and social consequences of approving the
permit while making a strong case for protecting the local community and ecosystem.
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From Phyllis moore Johnson
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Subject: Request for Denial of Permit Application for Mine Dewatering and Stormwater Discharge
Dear [Recipient's Name],
I am writing to formally request that the permit application submitted by [Vanceboro Quarry for
discharging mine dewatering and commingled stormwater into Blounts Creek. Bay a designated
Nutrient Sensitive Water (NSW) body, be denied. I strongly believe that approving this permit wot.!Jd
S.�?verely harm the local ecosystem, the health of our residents, and the natural resources that are vital
tc. our community.
Our area, which is unincorporated and home to a few thousand residents, is not only a peaceful,
residential area but also one that thrives on its natural beauty and recreational opportunities. The
surrounding waterways are an essential source of livelihood for many, providing abundant resources
such as fish, crabs, and lobsters, as well as opportunities for bird watching and other recreational
activities. These resources contribute to both the well-being of residents and the local economy,
attracting visitors and supporting small businesses that rely on tourism and recreation.
Polluting the waterway with mine dewatering and.,stwmwater would have catastrophic consequences
for the environment. These activities would intrii�c?-harmful pollutants into the water, leading to the
destruction of marine life and the depletion of biodW-e- rsity. The acidic erosion and chemical
contamination resulting from the discharge would endanger fish and other aquatic species, disrupting
the entire food chain and killing off the sea animals that residents and visitors alike depend on.
Furthermore, the long-term consequences of this pollution would erode the area's natural beauty,
diminish its value as a recreational destination, and ultimately harm the taxpaying residents who have
worked to preserve the environment.
It is evident that the issuing of this permit fails to consider the interests of the community and the
sustainability of the ecosystem. The proposed discharge poses a threat not only to local wildlife but
also to the economic viability of the area. I urge you to reject this permit in order to protect the
integrity of our environment, the livelihoods of local residents, and the natural resources that are
essential to our quality of life. I am asking that you place the residents first, not a private company
who will be profiting and the residents losing.
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Thank you for your time and consideration of this important matter. I look forward to your response
and trust that you will take the necessary steps to ensure that our waterways and surrounding
ecosystems remain protected for generations to come.
Sincerely,
Phyllis Moore-Johnson
This letter is structured to emphasize the environmental and social consequences of approving the
permit while making a strong case for protecting the local community and ecosystem.
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From Laurie Nelson
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DEQ,
Thank you for taking our community's comments on this important decision you need to make.
My husband and I moved our family home to Blounts Creek about 3 years ago. Our home is on the
waterfront. This was the leading reason we moved to this beautifirl community. We use the water nearly
every day in one way or another. My family and friends enjoy fishing right from our dock. We also are
shinned regularly by the wildlife that relies on the water for food. We regularly are visited by Bald
Eagles and Osprey that nest nearby, as well as Herons and otters. Pods of Dolphins come in many times
each year looking for all the bait fish in our estuaries.
Our family and friends who visit our home consistently comment how beautiful the Blounts Creek area is
and we spend many weekends Kayaking up in the tributaries, enjoying the many different birds, wildlife
and plants that thrive in the brackish waters.
We are greatly concerned that if the permit is granted, as it is currently written, all the creek's (including
the shallow tributary's)wildlife and plants will cease to exist after 12 million gallons a day pour into
these small, shallow water vol unes. We have read the permit and there is little control over what may
really come out of the mine and it's impending impact on the entire area. Even the control limits stated
(le: pH levels)will be deadly to the ecology.
Economically, for the hundreds of households located on or near the Blounts Bay/Blounts Creek area,
now realize that if this Permit is approved as is, if we attempt to sell our house, we must now disclose the
mining and the anticipated impact(just as if we were in a flood zone and must disclose that), our home
value will drop. No one wants to live on a dead creek. Would you? There would be no incentive to live
on the water if it is flushed out with 12M gallons each day. Not much would survive and it would look
dead. Far from the beautiful area it currently is.
We stand by our entire community,nity, as well as the suurounding communities, to please do not pass this
permit as written. More creative thinking must be applied to a solution for this excavation water instead
of just picking the cheapest and most damaging option impacting our beautiful area here in eastern NC
that so many travel from all over the east coast to visit, see, and enjoy.
Please do the right thing for the many and request a different, less damaging solution be determined for
this water and have that written into the permit application for consideration.
Thank you.
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From Lizz Nelso
Date Wed 11/20/2024 9:42 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
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From Jock Parker
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US Derek Denard,
Mr. Denard,
I am writing in hopes that the NCDEQ will not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta
Materials for its Vanceboro Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable undei
North Care 7' %water-quality regulations. Such a change in the)iAti:
which agl. z � ecies can survive in those waters, and state law' ` ' -J
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species code
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state.
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Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery forKkVificall
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk anoi� s l
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I am g r a t a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for the
Vancebor-- any will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining process
can voice their concerns.
Please consider protecting our natural resources and preserving water quality.
Thank you,
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From MaryBeth Poplyk
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Please do not allow Martin Marietta to dump their waste water into Blounts Creek.
We are new to Blounts Creek.We built our home on the Creek last year using our re'tiremeni savdirigs.We love to kayak,fish,
bird watch,and explore the water and shorelines.We were unaware of the pending.+aiinisbg and destruction of the natural
habitat when we bought our property in Long Point. - -
attended last night's meeting to learn more about the situation. I was very surprised that the original permit was ever
approved and even more surprised when the speaker said that it was still in place.
The health of our Creek,the amazing and beautiful ecosystem,and the value of our homes and lives should be more
important and take priority over industry profits.As one speaker said,we're not a toilet to be flushed. And your agency is
supposed to protect us.There were alternative uses for/ways to dispose of the waste water brought up at last night's
meeting.And I'm sure Martin Marietta could come up with many more ideas other than destroying the natural habitat
thriving in our brackish waters.
We're not scientists but we learned a lot from last night's speakers. Please listen to them. Listen to the science,the financial
impact on Xr��.-,.-,^meowners,and the love tj*.at we all have for the wonderful ecosystem here on Blounts Creek.
The walls c.* i,A. �s�w home are filled with photos taken over the last year of dolphins,osprey, pelicans,eagles,and herons
seen from our pier. It really is a unique and beautiful place and we would like to protect it.
Remember what your mission statement is-"Providing science-based environmental stewardship for the health and
prosperity of ALL North Carolinians."
Sincerely,
Brad&MaryBeth Poplyk
Chocowinity NC
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From Patricia Quante
Date Mon 10/14/2024 1:15 PM
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you
Patricia Quante
Chocowinity , North Carolina-
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SAVE SLOUNTS CREE
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OCT 2 R 2024
NCDEQ-DW n
NCDEQ/DWR/NPDEater Qualhy permitting Section
617 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
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permit No. NC0089168 f "sti a ijWWjje9ion
limestone quarry and to request/ GWeit&WI6nof"2 1 r
comment period.This permit has generated continued and �.
significant public interest over the last 15 years with continued
concerns regarding water quality,recreation,and landowner well
impacts.etc.related to the permitted 12 MGD discharge There
are now many new residents who should have the opportunity to
comment and ask questions at a public hearing. DWR has the
opportunity to review new data and information that is relevant
to the current conditions of Blounts Creek as well as permit
rr litions and compliance with North Carolina rules and - -
regulations.
Thank you for you consideration of these rOuests.
Sincerely, '
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:- m -I are VOTING NO TO MMM!The passing of MM mining discharge permit will negatively impact
our environment in so many ways!!!We absolutely do not agree with it at all!
.c that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,who have been called
�1 . :;pis purpose. -Ronians 8:28
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From Christi Roark
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Save our river!
Th,Vpk,, ,Yu,
Ch.rivIt Fib ark
Christi Roark
Blounts Creek, North Carolina-
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From Jennings Rose
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Jennings Rose
Oriental, North Carolina-
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From Stephanie Seals
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My name is Stephanie Seals, I am a 38-year-old professional that lives on Blount's Creek and after doing
my own due diligence, I have 3 significant concerns that have led me to request DEQ not renew Martin Marietta's
permit. My first concern is for the wildlife and how this quarry will affect this ecosystem. Second, is my concern
for our property values and how this quarry's proposed actions would damage our land and its overall value. Third
is my concern in DEQ's failure to uphold its mission statement coupled with a lack of transparency to the citizens
of North Carolina. These concerns individually are enough to warrant dramatic permit alterations, but combined, I
believe these concerns are sufficient to request DEQ to deny this permit renewal.
I do not take information or marketing at face value and have spoken directly with my local DEQ
representatives and the NC Cooperative Extension Aquaculture agent before forming my opinions and concerns.
While I encountered professionalism and willingness to assist my research from them, I realized the lack
transparency (i.e., not publicly sharing specific results such as salinity) has cnzitcd reasonable doubt in DEQ's
statements of wildlife not being negatively affected by dumping up to 12 rni4iorj gallons of water into these small
tributaries daily. Even if I were to take the claims of pH changes at face value, the fact that Martin Marietta has no
requirement to deposit a consistent amount of water daily could cause further difficulties to the ecosystem.
Finally, with something so fragile as our lagoonal bodies of water and waters that feed into our estuaries, I have
concerns that no additional outside agencies have been asked to investigate and/or monitor the bodies of
water. If DEQ insists on approving this permit, I'd request far more transparency in reports shared with the
citizens, regulations on monitoring the water, and appropriate actions.if the effects on the ecosystem are not as
stable as the DEQ predicts them to be.
If DEQ asks that Beaufort Co residents believe we will not see a change in the types and quantities of fish,
crab, and other wildlife that have a direct effect on our choosing to live here and our property values, I'd ask they
at least consider the effects on our marshlands and bank erosions. My personal property has mitigated its' flood
risks associated with the surrounding marshlands by being elevated based on flood plain maps, however the
additional 12 million gallons of water being added to the creek daily has significantly raised my concerns that my
home will see an increase in water damages with the annual storms. I am expected to do and not do certain
things to maintain the integrity of the river/creek banks and the marshlands; both of which are at increased risk of
erosion and damage if that much water is added routinely. If DEQ insists on ignoring the citizens of NC's pleas to
protect our homes, I ask that significant tax breaks be provided, and discussions occur between DEQ and the
Commissioner of Insurance to ensure the homes affected by these changes are offered additional coverage at
minimal to no cost.
Finally, the DEQ is not simply a permitting agency, but a regulatory agency set up to protect our
environment "for the health and prosperity of ALL North Carolinians", not just those in the triangle who visit east
of 95 for the beach. The local residents have spoken, loudly, and have posed valid questions that have yet to be
answered with "science-R,, J-.1 environmental stewardship". This project will not bring enough jobs to Eastern NC
to compensate for the clarriL4Las; it solely benefits Martin Marietta for the sake of limestone, one of the most
common and readily available sedimentary rocks. By approving this permit as it stands, DEQ will solidifv itself as
nothing more than ineffectual politicians, denving the evervdav citizen in favor of big business. If DEQ insists on
approving this permit I ask that solid, scientific based answers, based on research conducted by a third-party
agency be used to answer our questions that have been posed for the past several years.
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Please reconsider approving this permit, establish yourselves as a department of our state government
that does exactly what it says it's going to do, and help North Carolina remain a beautiful place to live and work.
Thank you,
Stephanie Seals
Chocowinity, NM
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From James E Seitz
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 millir t:q ,�Pns of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Y N ificantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
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` Aartin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
Y"mcess can voice their concerns.
:ank you,
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Katie Sheppard
Washington, NC-
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Scott Sheppard
Washington, NC-
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From Jeff Sherman
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Dear Fellow Citizens At NCDEQ:
We are in Florida currently and were unable to attend the hearing last evening. Our hearts are heavy
at the thought of our DEQ representatives allowing Martin Marietta to significantly diminish our way
of life on Blounts Creek by dumping millions of gallons of water per day into our waterway. You have
heard from many about the scientific evidence of what such a practice would do to destroy our
waterway, our water enjoyment, our property values, and all the creatures who live and thrive on
Blounts Creek and the surrounding waterways. We will not repeat those scientific arguments. We are
saddened that the business interests of large companies like Martin Marietta that move into our
neighborhoods would outweigh the desires and needs of the residents who live here full time.
Here is a sincere plea from, is couple who just built a new home on Blounts Creek, invested hundreds of
thousands of dollars i to and moved there last August to fulfill our lifelong dream to live on the
water. We love our new home and the environment. We love all of the wildlife, the fishing, the water
sports, the scenery, etc. We had no idea of this Martin Marietta proposal when we built our home. As
concerned citizens and also residents on Blounts Creek, we sincerely plead with you to not approve
the permit for Martin Marrietta. Please don't let them unlawfully degrade our way of life. Thank you for
respectfully considering our request.
Sincerely,
Jeff and Beth Sherman
Chocowinity, NC
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To Whom It May Concern,
Please vote No to the MMM Vanceboro Quarry Permit that would dump fresh water into Blounts Creek.
My family and I have lived in the area for the last decade and have plans to enjoy this area for the rest of
our lives, please do not allow MMM to destroy this ecosystem.
Thanks,
Jesse
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From Anne Skalski
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To NCDE,
On behalf of Long Point Landing Homeowners Association property owners, I am submitting this
email to express our combined property owners' opposition to the proposed renewal of MMM
discharge permit. Long Point Landing is a community on the shores of Blounts Creek and is
comprised of 97 lots.
This proposed discharge directly affects our landowners. We, the property owners, purchased
property and built homes on Blounts Creek, or connecting tributaries, with good faith in the laws that
support the health of our waterways - the laws that DEQ is mandated to uphold. We are asking that
you stand by your mandates, and Agency mission, as it pertains to the stewardship of our water
resources. The quality of our water is unequivocally interwoven into the quality of life for the people
that live on or around Blounts Creek and the fragile ecosystem and valuable esturine fisheries it
supports.
In addition to the environmental concerns, there is a financial component to our landowners'
opposition that DEQ must taken into consideration. If Blounts Creek is permitted to take on the daily
affluent discharge, as proposed, the change in water quality will equate to decreased property values.
For DEQ to allow this to happen, in favor of a company who is profiting at our expense, would be
unconscionable and disgraceful.
MMM has other options for affluent discharge that would be more environmentally acceptable and
actually provide neutral or even positive outcomes. These are the elements of the renewal permit that
should be required, not the option that is least expensive for the company and most impactful on the
environment and the local residents.
On behalf of the home owners at Long Point Landing, I respectfully ask DEQ to deny the proposed
renewal permit or require alternative, more palatable solutions for the discharge.
Sincerely,
Anne Skalski
Vice President
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We purchased our home just a little over a year ago. The house had been on the market for a very long
time. It seemed like every time I opened Zillow it was on my screen. The home wasn't our style at all,
it was much too big for two retired people,we didn't think it was even worth looking at.
A couple of years past and we were looking at a home in Oriental. Since we were in the general area I
thought it worth a trip to see the huge home on the hill.We drove up the driveway and met the agent.
She took us inside, yes,definitely not our style-but the view,wow! We thanked the agent and drove
away, both my husband and myself telling each other reasons why we wouldn't buy the house.
That view sat in my head, I needed more inf&rmation.An online search told the x kir Y of the creek, it
seemed this little community had fought for the creek and won. Hmmm, people�`i,t really care,what
a concept! Being an environmentalist, this inspired another look at the Blounts Creek.house.
We looked again, yes certainly not our style, but could we live with it? I needed to see the house in a
different light.We returned to the house at sunset and observed the view.
We bought into Blounts Creek.
We joined a community, a community that cared.
In the 13 months we have lived here we have had in our yard bear, .raccoefls,deer,bob cats,various
snakes (some endangered),opossum,various birds including American eagles,Osprey,blue heron,
humming birds,four types of woodpeckers and so many song birds I can't even say. Our neighbors
catch crabs at the dock. Children and adults fish and enjoy family time. The dolphin chase fish up the
creek, I didn't know they would do that until we moved here!
I beg you to really take a look at the creek before allowing NININI to destroy it. Our environment is
much too precious to trade for money.
Please allow us to show you this little slice of paradise.
Then take a look at other mines and the environmental impact they have had . Please let us show you
what's at stake, my phone number is if you would like to see the creek, isn't it worth a
couple of hours of your time?
Joanne Smith
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From Richard Smith
Date Wed 11/20/2024 10:52 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Richard Smith
Aurora, North Carolina-
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From Michele Spence
Date Tue 11/19/2024 8:10 PM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
As a resident of Beaufort County and living on the Pamlico River, this will be deadly to the wildlife
and fish that require these waters to live. Just tonight, I have seen hundreds of baby fish and
crabs, all of which will not be able to survive if this mining is allowed to happen. That does not
include the eagles, ospreys and other fowl that call the Pamlico River home or those that use this
as a stopping point in their annual migration.
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is clear: a discharge of waste
cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Michele Spence
Michele Spence
Blounts Creek, North Carolina=
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From Emma Tandy
Date Wed 11/20/2024 10:53 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Emma Tandy
Aurora, North Carolina-
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From Michael Tandy
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Do not let these people get rich quick so our grandchildren will never enjoy the creek as we
have.
Thank you,
Michael Tandy
Belhaven, North Carolina-
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My name is Kathleen Taylor_ My husband Marshall and I have been residents of
Washington, NC for 48 years. 40 years ago, we bought property on Blounts Creek
and have since built a home there. We, along with our three children, their
spouses and 9 grandchildren are asking the Department of Environmental Quality
to deny the wastewater permit currently being sought by Martin Marietta. The
permit they are seeking would allow up to 12 million gallons of their mining
operation wastewater per day to flow into the headwater- of 910.ants creek, a
currently healthy, brackish, swamp water creek system. ()vr desire is to see the
life of this productive and beautiful creek preserved for future generations.
In September of 2012 5 alternatives for disposal of wastewater rrom the mining
project were explored:
1. Connection to an existing public water supply system
2.Disposal of water by land application
3. Injection of water into groundwater
4. Discharge to surface water through the National Pollutant Discharge
Elimination System (NPDES) into Blounts Creek
5. Combination of alternatives
All alternatives were feasible; however, an economic study showed that #4,
discharge into Blounts Creek, was the least expensive.
Considering it has been over a decade since these studies were conducted, the
environment has changed and the mission of the department of Environmental
Quality is "Providing science-based environmental stewardship for the health
and prosperity of All North Carolinians", we are requesting that alternative
studies to determine the discharge of these wastewaters be conducted with an
eye to environmental stewardship as opposed to economic gains by Martin
Marietta. Please don't let Martin Marietta, which is here today and gone
tomorrow, kill our creek for future generations.

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Buster Thompson
Blounts Creek,NC 278mm
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13 October2024 RECEIVED
OCT 17 2024
NCDEQ-DWR Drector and Staff
NCDENR-DWQ-NPDES NCDEQ!DWR/NPDES
1617 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1617 �
RE: NPDES Permit No.NCoo8g168
_ This discharge would be disastrous for the flora
and fauna of Blounts Creek. It will change the
h physical, chemical and biological characteristics of
the creek. Aquatic life in the creek has adapted
„I► over many years to the natural fluctuations in pH,
salinity, turbidity, temperature and other
r parameters. The permit allows a turbidity of 50
NTU (nephelometc Turbidity to be
- > � urbidit y Units)
i I r monitored monthly by grab sample. I have
per work in the Tar River at intake screens
of Greenville Utility's water treatment screens
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when their reported turbidity was 23 NTU and 17
NTU. I know what what these look like. I have also
dived to the bottom of Blounts Creek on at least 19
occasions. I know from first-hand observation that
the nephelometric turbidity on a typical day would
be barely detectable. A strong dive light does not
create a visible beam through the water. The
permitted limit would not be adequate to protect

Buster Thompson
the integrity of the creek turbidity and monthly grab samples are not adequate to monitor for
violations.
The mining process will require the use of heavy equipment in the mine. Leakage of fuels, lubricants,
hydraulic fluids and coolants is inevitable. The permit calls for use of best management practices for
prevention of discharge of these fluids but no limits or monitoring requirements for VOCs or related
contaminants. How will these parameters be monitored and violations enforced?
The photo above shows a piling approximately a mile and a half upstream of Cotton Patch Landing.The
piling is covered with barnacles. When you hear that Blounts Creek is a fresh water creek, "not even
brackish", you are reminded that barnacles do not reproduce and grow in fresh water.
Even if all permit requirements are met, the discharge of twelve million gallons of fresh water would be
disasterous.
Sincerel
Buster Thompson
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Buster Thompson
Blounts k,NC-
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Comments for Public Hearing
Martin Marietta NPDES Permit
I am Buster Thompson(Henry Travis Thompson,Jr.). I have lived along the bank of Blounts
Creek since September of 1991.I was drawn here because o the pristine nature of the area.
Imagine,if you can, a cube of water 117 feet square by 1.17 feet high.This is the volume of fresh
water that is to be permitted for Martin Marietta Mining Co. to discharge into the slow-moving,
tannin-stained,brackish waters of Blounts Creek.That is a volume of water sufficient to cover
an acre of land 36.8 feet deep.This discharge would be disastrous for the flora and fauna of
Blounts Creek. It will change the physical, chemical and biological characteristics of the creek.
Aquatic life in the creek has adapted over many years to the natural fluctuations in pH, salinity,
turbidity and other parameters.The permit allows a turbidity of 50 NTU(nephelometric
Turbidity Units)to be monitored monthly by grab sample. I have performed work in the Tar
River at intake screens of Greenville Utility's water treatment screens when their reported
turbidity was 23 NTU and 17 NTU. I know what theselook like. I have also dove to the bottom
of Blounts Creek on at least 19 occasions. I know from first-hand observation that the
nephelometric turbidity on a typical day would be barely detectable.A strong dive light does
not create a visible beam through the water. Monthly grab samples seem hardly adequate to
monitor for violations. Monitoring for nephelometric turbidity should be continuous rather
than by monthly grab sample.
The permit as written has no limit or monitoring requirements for petroleum products (VOCs)
even though heavy equipment will be working within the mine no doubt leaking fuel oil,
hydraulic fluid,lubricants and coolant fluids.Any permit should have such limits and
monitoring requirements.
Regardless of permit requirements or compliance, a significant amount of fresh water

Buster Thompson
discharged into this brackish water creek will be disastrous for flora and fauna of the creek and
surrounding area.
Sincerely
Buster Thompson
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :: ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Andrew Thon
Andrew Thon
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From Charles Tucker
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Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Charles Tucker
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From Paul Walker
Date Wed 11/20/2024 11:35 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day into the headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfr:?,;YPd wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit putq;!#- ;,entire ecosystem at risk.
There needs be a complete hydrogeologic study performed to see the what the environmental
impact will be as well as eco study to determine the fishery impact. There will also be an
economic impact to the property owners. So sad to pursue this route when there more viable
options with less impacts.
Thank you,
Paul Walker
Blounts Creek, North Carolina-
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From David Wilder
Date Wed 11/20/2024 10:34 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
David Wilder
Aurora, North Carolina
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From Shannon Wilder
Date Wed 11/20/2024 10:31 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Shannon Wilder
Aurora , North Carolina-
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It is with great displeasure that my husband and I find ourselves needing to write in defense of the
proposed discharge permit for the Martin Marietta Mine. Approval of the first permit, ten sears ago,
was a disgrace and injustice to the environmental quality standards we have in place: (n North
Carolina and to the agency (DEQ) charged with overseeing their enforcement. That discharge
permit was, and the renewal permit is, in violation of 15A NCAC 02B .0211, Fresh Surface Water
Quality Standards for Class C Waters.
We, the citizens of NC have the right to live in a clean and healthy environment; and OUR concerns,
OUR backyards, OUR water resources, OUR outdoor recreation, OUR aquatic livelihoods.e�tl:roead
to come first and foremost to the polluting effects of industrial affluence. That's what these rOleFare
for. And, it is DEQ's responsibility to see to it that they are enforced on behalf of us. This is11
negotiable. Blounts Creek belongs to the citizens. Tell Martin Marietta to find and use alternative
discharge arrangements and become positively purposeful stewards in OUR community. There
have been several alternative discharge proposals. Sure, it will cost them more to implement one or
more of these; but, that needs to be DEQs standing on the cost of doing business in our State. We
are not for sale to the lowest bid.
As stated so many times at last night's hearing, DEQ cannot lawfully approve a permit that changes
the species composition of Blounts Creek. Nor can they lawfully approve a permit that knowingly
violates the pH water quality standard for the swamp waters of Blounts Creek. It has been
scientifically proven that the discharge will do just that, and will thereby initiate a cascading effect to
the benthic community and associated fisheries. So, there should be no contemplation to the
decision other than to deny it. An answer to the contrary is nothing more than overriding your
regulatory duties, turning your heads to the science, and shunning the people who have expressed
significant impactful concerns including but not limited to the lowering of property values and
diminished, or loss all together of, saltwater fisheries.
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Discharge, like that being proposed by MMM, should not even be considered for permitting by the
agency (DEQ) we fund to uphold our laws. This is a public waterway, not a sewage system for
industrial waste. We all know, including those of you at DEQ that this discharge WILL be harmful to
the Blounts Creek ecosystem. Please, don't deny it - acknowledge what the scientific research
points to. Monitoring after-the-fact to find that there is an issue does nothing to prevent pollution
and detrimental effects. What we ask of DEQ is to defend what is environmentally and lawfully
right; and, acknowledge and uphold your duties to the citizens of North Carolina. As per your
mission statement ...
"Providing science-based environmental stewardship for the health and prosperity of ALL
North Carolinians."
I sincerely hope that you will stand alongside your Blounts Creek neighbors. We put our trust in
DEQ to look after OUR best interests, not those of companies that move into OUR neighborhoods
and opt to unlawfully degrade OUR quality of life.
Sincerely Concerned,
Anne & Steve Windle
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From Kristin Zaki
Date Wed 11/20/2024 9:35 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day * :; ? headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
Thank you,
Kristin Zaki
Chocowinity, North Carolina 27817
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From Nasser Zaki
Date Wed 11/20/2024 6:20 AM
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US Derek Denard,
Dear Mr. Denard,
NCDEQ should not reissue a NPDES permit to Martin Marietta Materials for its Vanceboro
Quarry.
The discharge of up to 12 million gallons of groundwater per day headwaters of Blounts
Creek would significantly raise the pH of the stream system, a change:that is not allowable under
North Carolina's water-quality regulations. Such a change in the water chemistry would change
which aquatic species can survive in those waters, and state law is
clear: a discharge of waste cannot change the species composition of a stream from its natural
state.
Blounts Creek has been recognized by the state as nursery for saltwater species, and is a critical
habitat for fish and other aquatic species, a draw for fisherfolk and wildlife enthusiasts.
Granting Martin Marietta Materials the NPDES permit puts this entire ecosystem at risk.
We are grateful that a public hearing about the renewal of Martin Marietta Materials' permit for
the Vanceboro quarry will be held in Beaufort County, so that those affected by the mining
process can voice their concerns.
We need to think about out future and not with our pockets!
Thank you,
Nasser Zaki
Chocowinity, North Carolina_
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My name is Katey Zimmerman I am here tonight in my role as the Pamlico Tar
Riverkeeper for Sound Rivers- a nonprofit organization with over 2500 members that
protects and advocates for the health of the Neuse and Tar Pamlico rivers. Sound
Rivers has already submitted robust technical comments opposing the renewal of this
permit, which you may refer to.
I'm here tonight to support the local community members that live in the Blounts Creek
watershed, who will be directly impacted by this decision. Many of these residents have
been advocating for over a decade for the protection of Blounts Creek- and are here
again tonight asking you to do the right thing and to use the full power and authority you
have under the Clean Water Act, to protect the creek and fulfill your mandate under NC
law.
*DWR can only issue a permit for a discharge if it reasonably ensures that the discharge
will not violate Clean Water Act requirements. This draft permit does not.
Experts have consistently testified throughout this permitting process that dumping that
volume into the headwaters of Blounts Creek will permanently change the creek...It will
turn a coastal plain stream into something that looks nothing like a coastal plain
stream.
'The North Carolina division of Marine fisheries submitted technical comments to DWR,
explicitly stating that they "object to the subject project" due to the "potential and
unknown impacts of the discharge on one of the only few remaining areas in the
Pamlico known to be supporting river herring, as well as impacts to other estuarine and
anadromous fish species".
Martin Marietta themselves acknowledged in its permit application that the effects of its
discharge would change the creek in ways that would no longer support its existing
diversity of fish.
Despite the last ruling, we firmly maintain that these changes are not allowable under
the Clean Water Act's standard for biological integrity, standards for swamp waters, and
the antidegradation rule. This permit must not be renewed without significant alterations.
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If you do allow this discharge, we are not going anywhere. Sound Rivers and our :.vvr o, dtccd2
partners will continue to do our own monitoring, so we ask you- please use your
authority and include clear language in the permit that allows you to alter or revoke this
permit when Martin Marietta's discharge inevitably begins compromising the biological
integrity of Blounts Creek.
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