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From: Georgoulias, Bethany
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:26 PM
To: Lambe, Brian
Cc: Lucas, Annette
Subject: RE: [External] FW: CPI SOUTHPORT STORMWATER Permit # NCS000348
Attachments: NCDENR_DWR_WSS_LAB_PQLs.pdf
Brian,
Here's some guidance on this. Chris Ventaloro reminded us that he got the value (0.009) from an ECOTOX database
calculation for saltwater (which won't necessarily tell you testing method), and Connie Brower tapped a former
colleague in Waste Management for guidance on what method to use for testing:
Method 8270 (Semi -volatile Organic Compounds analysis)
Creosote is classified as U051(some kind of waste classification). The primary chemicals of concern in creosote with
harmful health effects are PAHs, phenols, and cresols. Method 8270 will pick up all three types of
compounds. Attached is the PQL list from the lab; the SVOA Method 8270 list of compounds is included here. I'm not
sure which ones to exclude, but if the total is below the creosote benchmark, we know levels are acceptable. If the total
is above the benchmark, we would need to figure out whether the levels are compounds that are not part of
creosote. So, if total SVO from 8270 comes back above 0.009 mg/I, we'll need to look into it further.
Hope this helps as at least a beginning point.
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Bethany Georgoulias
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
bethany.georgoulias@ncdenr.gov
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NC DENR DWR WSS WW/GW Chemistry Lab
QA/QC Limits PQLs
Dept
Unit
Parameter
Analyte
Analysis Method
Aqueous
Non -Aqueous
Tissue
QCS
% Rec
Spike
% Rec
Spike
% RPD
PQL
QCS
% Rec
Spike
% Rec
Spike
% RPD
PQL
QCS
% Rec
Spike
% Rec
Spike
% RPD
PQL
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Endosulfan Sulfate
EPA 608 / SW-8468081 B
115
53-114
18
0.03 µg/L
±15
+30
30
2 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Endrin
EPA 608 / SW-846 8081 B
±15
56-121
21
0.03 µg/L
±15
61-139
45
2 jig/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Endrin Aldehyde
EPA 608 / SW-846 8081 B
±15
26-127
25
0.03 µg/L
±15
±30
30
2 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Endrin Ketone
EPA 608 / SW-846 8081 B
±15
70-130
20
0.03 µg/L
±15
±30
30
2 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Heptachlor
EPA 608 / SW-846 8081 B
±15
43-120
14
0.03 µg/L
±15
59-130
31
2 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Heptachlor Epoxide
EPA 608 / SW-846 8081 B
±15
53-103
16
0.03 µg/L
±15
±30
30
2 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Methoxychlor
EPA 608 / SW-846 8081 B
±15
47-137
24
0.03 µg/L
±15
±30
30
2 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organochlorine
Toxa hene
EPA 608 / SW-846 8081 B
±15
±30
20
3 µg/L
±15
±30
20
200 Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Or anonitro en
Ametryn
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
67-118
16
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µ Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organonitro en
Atraton
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
54-140
16
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organonitro en
Atrazine
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
76-125
15
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organonitro en
Prometon
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
53-215
16
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organonitro en
Prometr n
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
70-122
16
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Or anonitro en
Pro azine
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
1 77-123
19
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µ Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Or anonitro en
Secbumeton
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
18
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Or anonitro en
Simazine
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
54-190
18
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Or anonitro en
Simetr n
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
68-136
18
5 µg/L
±10
±30
30
330 Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Or anonitro en
Terbuth lazine
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
72-137
15
5 /L
±10
±30
30
330 Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Or anonitro en
Terbut n Prebane
EPA 619 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
71-122
16
5 /L
±10
±30
30
330 Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Azinphos methyl
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
76-176
20
1 µg/L
±10
±30
30
66 kg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Demeton
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
41-146
20
1 µg/L
±10
1 ±30
30
66 kg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Diazinon
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
73-139
12
1 µg/L
±10
±30
30
kg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Disulfoton
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
54-130
16
1 µg/L
±10
±30
30
kg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Ethion
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
55-169
14
1 µg/L
±10
±30
30
kg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Ethyl Parathion
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
71-136
14
1 µg/L
±10
±30
30
kg/Kg
w66Vg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Malathion
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
62-182
12
1 µg/L
±10
±30
30
kg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
Organophosphorus
Methyl Parathlon
EPA 614 / SW-846 8141 B
±10
57-148
14
1 /L
±10
±30
30
Or anics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1016
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
±15
70-150
20
1 g/L
70-150
70-150
30Or
anics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1021
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
±15
70-150
20
1 g/L
70-150
70-150
30
Organics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1032
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
±15
70-150
20
1 g/L
70-150
70-150
30
66 µg/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1042
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
±15
70-150
20
1 µg/L
70-150
70-150
30
66 jig/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1048
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
±15
70-150
20
1 µg/L
70-150
70-150
30
66 jig/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1054
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
±15
70-150
20
1 µg/L
70-150
70-150
30
66 jig/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1260
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
±15
70-150
20
1 µg/L
70-150
70-150
30
66 jig/Kg
Organics
Pesticides
PCBs
Arochlor 1262
EPA 608.3 / SW-846 8082 A
+15
70-150
20
1 µg/L
70-150
70-150
30
66 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
1,2,4-Trichlorobenzene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+56
1 91
27
10 µg/L
+38
79
50
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
1,2-Dichorobenzene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
16 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
1,3-Dichorobenzene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
1111W
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
1,4-Dichorobenzene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+52
85
19
10 µg/L
+28
74
50
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2,4,5-Trichlorophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2,4,6-Trichlorophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2,4-Dichlorophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2,4-Dimethyl phenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2,4-Dinitrophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
50 µg/L
1
3300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2,4-Dinitrotoluene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+65
96
18
10 µg/L
+49
89
50
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2,6-Dinitrotoluene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2-Chlorophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+53
90
23
10 µg/L
+25
90
50
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2-Cholornaphthalene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
10 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2-Methylnaphthalene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2-Methylphenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2-Nitroaniline
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
3300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
2-Nitrophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
1
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
3,3'-Dicholorobenzidine
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
30 µg/L
1300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
3-Nitroaniline
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
50 µg/L
3300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
4,6-Dinitro-2-Methylphenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
50 µg/L
3300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
4-Bromophenyl phenyl ether
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
4-Chloro-3-Methylphenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+60
90
18
20 µg/L
+38
92
33
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVGA
4-Chloroaniline
EPA 625 / SW-946 8270 D
10 µg/L
1300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
4-Chlorophenyl phenyl ether
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
4-Methylphenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
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NC DENR DWR WSS WW/GW Chemistry Lab
QA/QC Limits PQLs
Dept
Unit
Parameter
Analyte
Analysis Method
Aqueous
Non -Aqueous
Tissue
QCS
% Rec
Spike
% Rec
Spike
% RPD
PQL
QCS
% Rec
Spike
% Rec
Spike
% RPD
PQL
QCS
% Rec
Spike
% Rec
Spike
% RPD
PQL
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
4-Nitroaniline
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
50 µg/L
3300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVGA
4-Nitrophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+13
57
30
50 µg/L
+30
114
47
3300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Acenaphthene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+56
93
16
10 µg/L
+31
92
19
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Acenaphthylene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Aniline
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Anthracene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
10 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Benzo(a)anthracene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
10 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Benzo(a)pyrene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Benzo(k)fluroanthene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Benzo(g,h,i)perylene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
15 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Benzo(k)fluoranthene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Benzoic acid
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
50 µg/L
3300 jig/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Benzyl alcohol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
30 µg/L
1
1300 jig/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Bis(2-chlorethyl)ether
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Bis(2-chloroethoxy)methane
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Bis(2-chloroisopropyl)ether
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Bis(2-ethylhexyl)phtha late
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Butylbenzyl phthalate
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Chrysene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Dibenzo(a,h)anthracene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
15 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Dibenzofuran
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Diethyl phthalate
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Dimethyl phthalate
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Di-n-butyl phthalate
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Di-n-octyl phthalate
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Fluoranthene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Fluorene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
12 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Hexachlorobutadiene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Hexachlorocyclopentadiene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Hexachloroethane
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Hexachorobenzene (HCB)
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Indeno(1,2,3-cd)-Pyrene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
15 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Isophorone
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Naphthalene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
1
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Nitrobenzene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
N-Nitrosodiphenylamine
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
N-Nitrosodipropylamine
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+58
100
20
10 µg/L
+41
85
38
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Pentachlorophenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+47
102
28
30 µg/L
+17
108
47
3300 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Phenanthrene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
10 µg/L
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVOA
SVOA
Phenol
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+25
46
22
10 µg/L
+26
90
35
660 µg/Kg
Organics
SVGA
SVOA
P rene
EPA 625 / SW-846 8270 D
+56
109
21
10 L
+35
97
36
Organics
SVOA
TPH
TPH - DRO
SW-846 8015 C
+30
124
40
0.5 mg/L
1 +43
134
40
10 mg/Kg
Organics
VOA
1,4-dioxane
1,4-dioxane
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1 /L
Organics
VOA
TPH
TPH-GRO
SW-846 8015 C
+20
+20
540
0.20 mg/L
+20
+20
<40
6 mg/kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,1 Dichloroethane
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1 µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,1,1,2-Tetrachloroethane
EPA 624 / SW-946 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,1,1-Trichloroethane
EPA 624 / SW-946 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,1,2,2-Tetrachloroethane
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
5 µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,1,2-Trichloroethane
EPA 624 / SW-946 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,1-Dichloroethene
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1 µg/L
1 +30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,1-Dichloropropene
EPA 624 / SW-946 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2,3-Trichlorobenzene
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1 µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2,3-Trichloropropane
EPA 624 / SW-946 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2,4-Trichlorobenzene
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1 WE
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2,4-Trimethyl benzene
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1µ E
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2-Dibromo-3-Chloropropane
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
2 WE
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2-Dibromoethane
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1WE
+30
+30
20
9µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2-Dichlorobenzene
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1 WE
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2-Dichloroethane
EPA 624 / SW-946 8260 B
+30
+30
20
lµg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
Organics
VOA
VOA
1,2-Dichloropropane
EPA 624 / SW-846 8260 B
+30
+30
20
1 µg/L
+30
+30
20
10 µg/Kg
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From: Lambe, Brian
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany <bethany.georgoulias@ncdenr.gov>
Subject: FW: [External] FW: CPI SOUTHPORT STORMWATER Permit # NCS000348
CPI and I have been wrestling around with what to do with the Creosote requirement. They, we, don't know what to test
for. I asked Lauren for clarification, you were copied, she gave me a parameter number and a benchmark. The
parameter really didn't tell the lab what to test for. The benchmark is 0.009mg/L of WHAT? My reading lead me to
testing for PAH's, but I don't know. What do you think?
Brian Lambe
Environmental Specialist
910-796-7313
919-268-1678 cell
State of North Carolina I Environmental Quality I Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Extension I Wilmington, NC 28405
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Brian,
FYI... See proposed analytical method for creosote, below. This is from our lab. We understand this is an approved
method. Are you ok with this?
Thanks,
Josh Jones
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Josh,
After reviewing the attachments you sent and your storm water permit, I make the following analytical suggestions for
the measurement of creosote in your storm water.
1) The term creosote is not specific in the target list required. Creosote is defined in some chemistry sources as "an
oily mixture of phenolic compounds.
2) The phenolic compounds I have seen referred to as creosote are three phenols: 2-Methylphenol, 3-
Methylphenol and 4-Methylphenol. These are all phenolic and aromatic chemicals. There are other phenolic
and aromatic compounds however,
3) We were discussing PAHs also or polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons. I do not know if the permit writer's
intention was to include these instead or in addition to the phenols. Phenols and PAHs, while both are aromatic
as both contain benzene rings, are different classes of compounds.
4) Method EPA 625 is a method for measuring both phenols and PAHs in waste water. Phenols are referred to as
acids as they extract into methylene chloride from water under acidic conditions. BN, or base neutrals, are
extracted under basic conditions.
I think the permit writer's intention is analyze for the methylphenols listed in bullet 1.
However, clarification for DWQ may be needed to make sure other analytes such as PAHs are required.
Ray Porter
910-392-0223
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Subject: CPI SOUTHPORT STORMWATER Permit # NCS000348
Please see attachment and read the below, said correspondence with our state inspector, Brian Lambe. Starting in July
we will have to submit results for Creosote. We will need for you to provide us with the sample collection bottles, early
next week. Please let us know if there is any additional information that you may need from us.
Thank you,
Josh Jones
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The best I can figure for the creosote testing is to test for PAHs. You will need to consult with the lab for which methods
to use. The parameter that should be used for creosote is 39140. The benchmark is 0.009 mg/L. I attached some fun
reading on the subject. https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/TP.asp?id=66&tid=18#bookmarkll
Brian Lambe
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910-796-7313
919-268-1678 cell
State of North Carolina I Environmental Quality I Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Extension I Wilmington, NC 28405
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