20190844 Ver 1_SR 1345 USFWS Correspondence_20190623

McHenry, David G
From: McHenry, David G
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 1:40 PM
To: Connor, Gregory M
Cc: Barnett, Kevin; Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW (US); Ellwanger, Claire
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [External] RE: Pipe collapse on North Mills River Road - may
we proceed please?
Greg,
As mentioned, this area is high quality water and there are endangered mussels in the river. So, low impact work is
particularly important here. Your permits and other documentation will follow later, but please make sure your crew
follows good practices including, but not limited to, the following:
1) Install clean temporary sand bags/diversion with pump -around and install culvert in same foot print of existing
as noted below.
2) Be sure the new pipe is not installed with a perched outlet. A 36" pipe needs to have its bottom recessed about
7 inches below the stream grade. I recommend either have a level on hand or use another technique to ensure
the elevation of the pipe bedding is correct before placing the pipe.
3) Minimize disturbance of the stream, but if there are disturbed banks after placement, then these areas should
be matted and seeded with millet or rye grain.
Please advise Patrick or myself if you have any questions or need any assistance.
Thanks
Dave
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Thank you Claire.
With that Dave, I'm good to go with after the fact authorization.
Crystal C. Amschler
Project Manager
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Room 208

Asheville, NC 28403
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [External] RE: Pipe collapse on North Mills River Road - may we proceed please?
Hi Dave,
The information you sent is sufficient for us to concur with a MANLAA for Appalachian elktoe.
Please let me know if you need anything else.
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:01 PM McHenry, David G <dgmchenry&ncdot.gov> wrote:
Thanks,
I was told we will be putting same length pipe in. Greg Connor is the Supervisor and can correct me if I am
wrong.
Greg, please hold -off on replacement till we hear from Claire on this.
Sorry, MANLA is short for may affect not likely to adversely affect.
Dave
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Subject: [External] RE: Pipe collapse on North Mills River Road - may we proceed please?
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Dave,
Not sure what a MANLA is? I assume the pipe would be replaced with the same size pipe in the same foot
print with no additional impact to the stream other than temporary? I'm fine with after the fact permitting as

long as you hear back from Claire first, prior to construction to make sure that she is good with the work as
proposed.
Crystal C. Amschler
Project Manager
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Room 208
Asheville, NC 28403
(828)-271-7980 Ext 4231
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From: McHenry, David G [mailto:damchenrykncdot.gov]
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Pipe collapse on North Mills River Road - may we proceed please?
Folks,
We have a small corrugated pipe collapsed on North River Road in Mills River that needs quick
replacement. The attached map shows the location. It is only about 0.1 mile above the Mills River. From my
old WRC days, I recall the Mills from near the junction of South and North and the river downstream from
there as being about the potential elktoe habitat, but it looks like most actual records are only from the lower
end near NC 191, which is couple miles downstream of this pipe. Please advise if you would call this a
MANLA and whether we could proceed with aft -the -fact permitting or whatever else may be necessary.
They will effectively dewater and I have already advised them not to leave this pipe perched.
Thanks
Dave McHenry
NCDOT Division 14 DEO
828/586-2141 office

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Claire Ellwanger
Biologist
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
160 Zillicoa St # B
Asheville, NC 28801
[phone] x 235