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?OF W ATFRQ Michael F. Easley, Governor
William G. Ross Jr., Secretary
co r North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
0 -? Alan W. Klimek, P.E. Director
Division of Water Quality
November 22, 2005
DWQ Project # 20052079
Wake County
Page 1 of 2
Mr. Bob Zarzecki
Soil and Environmental Consultants
11010 Raven Ridge Road
Raleigh, NC, 27614
Subject Property: Buffer Determination Appeal for Stream Feature B,
Laurel Park Subdivision (now or formerly Bespack, Inc.),
2450 Laura Duncan Road, Cary, NC
On-Site Determination for Applicability to the Neuse River Riparian Area Protection Rules (15A
NCAC 2B.0233)
Dear Mr. Zarzecki:
On November 21, 2005, at your request I conducted an on-site determination to review a feature located
on the subject property for applicability to the Neuse Buffer Rules (15A NCAC 2B .0233). The feature is
labeled as "B" on the attached map initialed by me on November 21, 2005. Division of Water Quality
(DWQ) Staff from the Raleigh Regional Office had previously conducted an on-site determination of the
stream. In your letter to the Director dated November 17, 2005, you requested an appeal of their
determination as provided within 15A NCAC 02B .0233(3)(a).
At your request, I conducted an appeal of their determination as stated above. During my review I
evaluated the stream using the DWQ Stream Classification Form. I evaluated the stream reach B and
calculated the score to be 8.5 points. The form states that if the score is "greater than or equal to 19 points
the stream is at least intermittent".
The DWQ has determined that the stream labeled as "B" on the attached map is not subject to the
Neuse Buffer Rule. This determination shall replace the determination originally performed by the
Regional Office.
This letter only addresses the applicability to the buffer rules and does not approve any activity within the
buffers. Nor does this letter approve any activity within Waters of the United States or Waters of the
State. If you have any additional questions or require additional information please call me at (919) 733-
9721. This determination is subject to review as provided in Articles 3 & 4 of G.S. 150B.
Sincerely,
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Cyndi Karoly, Alan W. Klimek, P.E.
401 Oversight and Express Permitting Unit
401 Oversight/Express Review Permitting Unit
1650 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-1650
2321 Crabtree Boulevard, Suite 250, Raleigh, North Carolina 27604
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November 17, 2005
S&EC Project # 9650.w2
To: Alan Klimek, Director
c/o Cyndi Karoly, DWQ Wetlands Group
2321 Crabtree Blvd, Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27604
From: Bob Zarzecki, S&EC, P.A.
RE: Buffer Determination Appeal for Stream Feature B,
Laurel Park S/D (now or formerly Bespack, Inc.),
2450 Laura Duncan Road, Cary, Wake County, North Carolina
On behalf of the buyer of the subject property (Westfield Homes) and the property owner (Bespack, Inc.)
we request an appeal of the buffer determination performed by Mr. Eric Kulz of the Raleigh Regional
Office for the subject property. On November 15, 2005, Mr. Kulz met Aaron Cooper of our office on site
and determined feature B to be subject to the Neuse Buffer Rule (see attached USGS & Soil Survey
map(s)). However, we believe this feature lacks the necessary indicators of an intermittent/buffered
stream channel. Therefore, we request a re-evaluation of Mr. Kulz's analysis. Please accept this letter as
an official request. We are only appealing the determination of stream "feature B". We do not disagree
with the other determinations throughout the property. Your help in clarifying the status of the
application of the Neuse Buffer Rules to this feature is greatly appreciated.
We have not yet received a copy of Mr. Kulz's report and as such do not have a DWQ project number to
provide you at this time. Please contact me at your earliest convenience to coordinate a site meeting for
re-evaluating the feature in question. I can be reached at our office: [phone] or by mobile: (919)
270-2068.
Sincerely,
Bob Zarzecki,
Environmental Scientist
Enclosures:
1) USGS site vicinity map
2) Wake County Soil Survey
3) Wake County GIS
CC: Eric Kulz, DWQ Raleigh Regional Office
Charlotte Office: Greensboro Office:
236 LePhillip Court, Suite C 3817-E Lawndale Drive
Concord, NC 28025 Greensboro, NC 27455
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FW: S&EC 9650.w2 (Bespack Site, Cary) & RE: 5584.w2 Sherron R...
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Subject: FW: S&EC 9650.w2 (Bespack Site, Cary) & RE: 5584.w2 Sherron Rd/NC98 - Buffer Appeal
From: "Bob Zarzecki" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:29:16 -0500
To: <[e-mail]>
Laurie,
Could you please make sure that Cyndi gets this email today if you see
her? I sent it to her via email, left a message on her voicemail and
asked Marion to put a note in her box. I just want to make sure that
she meets me at the right property Monday morning.
Thanks a bunch.
Bob Zarzecki,
Environmental Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
11010 Raven Ridge Road
Raleigh, NC 27614
Phone: [phone] ext. 317 (Main)
Phone: [phone] (Direct)
Fax: [phone]
Mobile:[phone]
www.SandEC.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Zarzecki
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:22 PM
To: 'Cyndi Karoly'
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Cc: Kevin Martin; Eric Kulz (RRO) ([e-mail]); Aaron Cooper
Subject: S&EC 9650.w2 (Bespack Site, Cary) & RE: 5584.w2 Sherron Rd/NC98
- Buffer Appeal
Importance: High
Cyndi:
The owners of the Sherron Rd/NC98 property have decided not to proceed
with the stream appeal call at this time. However, as it happens I have
another property where our client has requested an appeal of a
determination performed by Eric Kulz with Aaron Cooper earlier this
week. I've attached an appeal request for this site. The site is
located on the southeast corner of Laura Duncan Road and Old Apex Road.
It's an existing industrial property (Bespak, Inc.) that is proposed for
residential. A marginal channel exists on the property. Aaron felt
that the stream was ephemeral and Eric scored it at 19 points and
decided to call it. The developer feels that it will drastically effect
their project and directed us to request an appeal of Eric's call.
There is a Town of Apex community park located just south of the
property. If you are willing to go to this site in leu of the Durham
site, then please plan to meet me near the park entrance. We'll access
the stream from the park property. I'll plan to meet you at 10 am
unless you would like to meet earlier. I'll bring a signed copy of the
request to the meeting.
Please respond or call to confirm.
Thanks.
Bob Zarzecki,
Environmental Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
11010 Raven Ridge Road
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FW: S&EC 9650.w2 (Bespack Site, Cary) & RE: 5584.w2 Sherron R...
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Raleigh, NC 27614
Phone: [phone] ext. 317 (Main)
Phone: [phone] (Direct)
Fax: [phone]
Mobile:[phone]
www.SandEC.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Zarzecki
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:27 PM
To: 'Cyndi Karoly'; Kevin Martin
Subject: RE: 5584.w2 Sherron Rd/NC98 - Buffer Appeal
Great. I look forward to it. There was a chance that you would be
meeting Kevin, but I believe that he is scheduled to be out of town so
you've got me. I'll most likely be driving my tan Ford Escape.
Cheers.
Bob Zarzecki,
Environmental Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
11010 Raven Ridge Road
Raleigh, NC 27614
Phone: [phone] ext. 317 (Main)
Phone: [phone] (Direct)
Fax; [phone]
Mobile:[phone]
www.SandEC.com
----Original Message-----
From: Cyndi Karoly [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:46 PM
To: Bob Zarzecki
Subject: Re: 5584.w2 Sherron Rd/NC98 - Buffer Appeal
Bob - I'll plan to leave from Raleigh right after dropping Roman off at
9:00 am at school. I'll plan to meet you at the Food Lion. I'm sure
I'd be there by 10am, most likely earlier if traffic is good. Thanks.
Bob Zarzecki wrote:
Cyndi:
10 am, Nov 21st ... Works for me ... I think that you should have at
least half an hour to spare, assuming you're planning to leave your
office between 9:15 and 9:30 ... Directions are simple ... Meet me at
the Food Lion parking lot on the corner of Sherron Road & NC98
(Durham) ... See map below ... Or you're welcome to meet me at our
office (since it's kind of on the way) ... And we can ride together
... Just let me know what you prefer ... I'm copying Kevin because
there is a chance that he will be meeting you on site and not I ...
Look forward to seeing you ...
Bob Zarzecki,
Environmental Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
11010 Raven Ridge Road
Raleigh, NC 27614
Phone: [phone] ext. 317 (Main)
Phone: [phone] (Direct)
Fax: [phone]
Mobile:[phone]
www.SandEC.com
2 of 3 11/18/2005 1:17 PM
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cyndi Karoly [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Bob Zarzecki
Subject: Re: 5584.w2 Sherron Rd/NC98 - Buffer Appeal
I Wanna shoot for 10am on Nov 21? I need to be back in Raleigh by
12:30.
I is that possible? If not, we're looking at December. IF this works,
please advise of a good meeting place, or we could ride out together.
Bob Zarzecki wrote:
Cyndi,
Attached is the buffer appeal that I mentioned in my voice message to
you yesterday. Please let me know when you or someone else will be
I available to perform this determination. I'll mail you a copy of the
request as well.
Thanks.
Bob Zarzecki
Environmental Specialist
[phone] ext. 17
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20052079
Environmental Consultants, PA
Road • Raleigh, North Carolina 27614 • Phone: [phone] • Fax: [phone]
www.SandEC.com
November 17, 2005
S&EC Project # 9650.w2
To: Alan Klimek, Director
c/o Cyndi Karoly, DWQ Wetlands Group
2321 Crabtree Blvd, Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27604
From: Bob Zarzecki, S&EC, P.A.
RE: Buffer Determination Appeal for Stream Feature B,
Laurel Park S/D (now or formerly Bespack, Inc.),
2450 Laura Duncan Road, Cary, Wake County, North Carolina
On behalf of the buyer of the subject property (Westfield Homes) and the property owner (Bespack, Inc.)
we request an appeal of the buffer determination performed by Mr. Eric Kulz of the Raleigh Regional
Office for the subject property. On November 15, 2005, Mr. Kulz met Aaron Cooper of our office on site
and determined feature B to be subject to the Neuse Buffer Rule (see attached USGS & Soil Survey
map(s)). However, we believe this feature lacks the necessary indicators of an intermittent/buffered
stream channel. Therefore, we request a re-evaluation of Mr. Kulz's analysis. Please accept this letter as
an official request. We are only appealing the determination of stream "feature B". We do not disagree
with the other determinations throughout the property. Your help in clarifying the status of the
application of the Neuse Buffer Rules to this feature is greatly appreciated.
We have not yet received a copy of Mr. Kulz's report and as such do not have a DWQ project number to
provide you at this time. Please contact me at your earliest convenience to coordinate a site meeting for
re-evaluating the feature in question. I can be reached at our office: [phone] or by mobile: (919)
270-2068.
Sincerely,
Bob Zarzecki,
Environmental Scientist
Enclosures:
1) USGS site vicinity map
2) Wake County Soil Survey
3) Wake County GIS
CC: Eric Kulz, DWQ Raleigh Regional Office
Charlotte Office:
236 LePhillip Court, Suite C
Concord, NC 28025
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Greensboro Office:
3817-E Lawndale Drive
Greensboro, NC 27455
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
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DEED BOOK: 03212
DEED PAGE: 0227
DEED DATE: 12116/1983
DEED ACRES: 38.06
BLDG VAL: 3291744
LAND VAL: 1096810
BILLING CLASS: CORPORATE LISTING
DESCRIPTION: EDWARDS LAND
MAP NAME: 075317
PIN NUM: 0753104815
PIN EXT: 000
CITY: CAR
PLAN JURIS: CA
TOWNSHIP: CARY
YEAR BUILT: 1986
SALEPRICE: 571000
SALEDATE: 12/16/1983
TYPE USE: Manufacturing
DESIGN STYLE: Conventional
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