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Strickland, Bev
From: Barnes, Kyle
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:19 AM
To: Karoly, Cyndi; Karoly, Cyndi; Mcmillan, Ian; Strickland, Bev
Subject: RE: Sandy Point
Looks like north is starting to be the only way to run although if that is the case I will
just stay here. It is my understanding that they underestimated the length of the channel
they needed and to connect it will require the additional footage. I also agree that the
soundside channels are premature. They should have dug in the hill first and then connected.
At pres there is no landward earthworks. These holes in the sound could cause WQ issues
although no fishkills or anything else has been reported. I will keep you informed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karoly, Cyndi
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 7:32 AM
To: Barnes, Kyle; Karoly, Cyndi; Mcmillan, Ian; Strickland, Bev
Subject: RE: Sandy Point
I can only open one of the attachments - the one with the aerial photo. What I don't
understand is why they dead-ended the canal - it's kinda useless as is, ain't it? Anyway, it
seems that if the connection was already approved in the 401, they just need to finish what
we already approved, and it shouldn't require a mod. But it seems that same logic would
apply to the CAMA permit, so why is DCM requiring a mod. It seems simpler just to make them
comply with their already approved contours, unless they are changing that now. And yes,
that name makes me more than shiver. It makes me flee - west. Oh crap, that's where Dr. Lok
King Kong is creating adventures for us in ARO. Maybe I should just go north. Cheers.
From: Barnes, Kyle [[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:46 AM
To: Karoly, Cyndi; Mcmillan, Ian; Strickland, Bev
Subject: Sandy Point
Cyndi,
I know the subject name of this email makes you shiver but I thought you would need to see
this information. I received a letter from DCM this week indicating that they were
performing a compliance check and one of the navigation channels leading to the Sandy Point
development did not connect to matching bottom contours and they would require the Fund for
Sandy Point to modify their permit to correct the situation. Not 100% sure how that works in
a mod for the 401. Your office was not on the cc list so I attached a copy of the info with
this email.
KB
Kyle Barnes
Environmental Senior Specialist
NCDENR
Division of Water Quality
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.

Strickland, Bev
From: Barnes, Kyle
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:46 AM
To: Karoly, Cyndi; Mcmillan, Ian; Strickland, Bev
Subject: Sandy Point
Attachments: Sandy Point0001.jpg; Sandy Point0002.jpg
Cyndi,
I know the subject name of this email makes you shiver but I thought you would need to see this information. I received
a letter from DCM this week indicating that they were performing a compliance check and one of the navigation
channels leading to the Sandy Point development did not connect to matching bottom contours and they would require
the Fund for Sandy Point to modify their permit to correct the situation. Not 100% sure how that works in a mod for the
401. Your office was not on the cc list so I attached a copy of the info with this email.
KB
Kyle Barnes
Environmental Senior Specialist
NCDENR
Division of Water Quality
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
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North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Coastal Management
Beverly Eaves Perdue James H. Gregson
Governor Director
July 23, 2009
Sam Young
The Fund for Sandy Point North Carolina, LLC
1820 Sandy Point Road
Edenton, North Carolina 27932
RE: Revised Letter
CAMA Major Permit No. 138-06
Dear Mr. Young:
Dee Freeman
Secretary
Based on our conversation and an as built survey submitted by Quible and Associates, it has been determined that
Channel No. 2 does not reach a connecting depth as required by CAMA Major Permit No. 138-06, issued to The
Fund for at Sandy Point North Carolina, LLC. In order to maintain consistency with the approved development, The
Fund for Sandy Point North Carolina, LLC must obtain a permit modification and extend the channel to a connecting
depth.
A Minor Modification of the CAMA Major Permit must be obtained prior to undertaking any dredging activities, In
addition, the modification must be in place and the dredging completed by February 15, 2010. My previous letter
date July 20, 2009, incorrectly noted the completion date as October 31, 2009. Failure to obtain the modification and
undertake the dredging as required may result in the issuance of a Notice of Violation.
In order to modify the permitted project a written request must be submitted to the Division of Coastal Management
showing in detail the proposed modification, which may be shown on the existing approved application plat. The
request for a modification must be accompanied with an application fee of $100.00 payable to the NC Department of
Environment and Natural Resources (NCDENR). Please direct the request to the attention of Field Representative
Kelly Russell.
If you have any questions do not hesitate to contact me at [phone].
Sincerely,
<-,J,., L.J,-fe-,
Lynn W. Mathis
District Compliance & Enforcement Representative
CC: Doug Huggett, Major Permit Coordinator, DCM
Frank Jennings III, District Manager, DCM
Kelly Russell, Field Representative, DCM
Joe Lassiter, Quible and Associates
Sara Winslow, Northern District Manager, DMF
Alton Hodge, Supervisor, DWQ
David M. Lekson, Chief, Washington Field Office, USACE
Enclosures
1367 US 17 South, Elizabeth City, NC 27909
Phone: [phone] FAX: [phone]. Internet: www.nccoastalmanagement,net
An Equal Opportunity \ Affirmative Action Employer

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Channel does not extend to a connecting depth as shown on the approved plan.
Photographs were taken on February 19, 2009.

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