20181489 Ver 1_WRC Comments_20181121

Strickland, Bev
From: Leslie, Andrea J
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 2:56 PM
To: Jake Byers; Homewood, Sue
Cc: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US); 'Tony Davis'; Christine Gears; Kevin
Tweedy
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
10-4, Jake. Fortunately, the Fisher River isn't chock full of sensitive or rare species, so I'm not super concerned
about this. I just ask you to use excellent sediment and erosion control on the project and do what you can to
minimize sediment loss with instream work.
Andrea
Andrea Leslie
Mountain Habitat Conservation Coordinator
NC Wildlife Resources Commission
645 Fish Hatchery Rd., Building B
Marion, NC 28752
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828-400-4223 (cell)
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From: Jake Byers <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 2:46 PM
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
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Thanks, Andrea.
The depth of water in most of the area that would need to be excluded would probably exclude using jersey barriers and
the amount of stone required would probably increase the construction cost by 30% or more. To divert the flow some
sort of pile system would need to be used which would also be very expensive. This is information from the
construction contractor.

Thanks,
-Jake
From: Leslie, Andrea J <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 2:36 PM
To: Jake Byers <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US) <[e-mail]>; 'Tony Davis'
<[e-mail]>; Christine Gears <[e-mail]>; Kevin Tweedy <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
Jake,
I sent my comments to your old address at Baker. Attached are my comments.
Andrea
Andrea Leslie
Mountain Habitat Conservation Coordinator
NC Wildlife Resources Commission
645 Fish Hatchery Rd., Building B
Marion, NC 28752
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From: Jake Byers <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 2:33 PM
To: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US) <[e-mail]>; Leslie, Andrea J
<[e-mail]>; 'Tony Davis' <[e-mail]. net>; Christine Gears <[e-mail]>; Kevin
Tweedy <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
See attached for the lease agreement.
The culvert is being requested by Surry parks and rec to widen their trail. The parks director has stated that they have
cross country meets there regularly and that point becomes a significant bottle neck. However, if this is a regulatory
hurdle we can take it out. Let me know if this is a good enough reason for the impact. If so, we'll send an updated
table.

I don't think I've seen or maybe misplaced the WRC comments. However I have received comments on similar projects
on large river systems regarding working in the wet. I appreciate the need to work in the dry as much as possible but
the Fisher River is a 61 square mile drainage area so pumping around is not a viable option. Installing diversions or
cofferdams is cost prohibitive and is likely to disturb as much or more then just doing the work. I can't lay my hands on
it right now but we have a map showing the rapid bank erosion along this bend on the fisher. This bend has lost 50' or
more bank in the last 15 years or so. The sediment entering the river and potential turbidity as a result of construction is
miniscule compared to what has already entered and what will continue to enter the river without this work. We will
pump around on the unnamed tributary. Please let me know if I am missing something or not addressing the intent of
the WRC comments.
Thanks,
-Jake
From: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 2:09 PM
To: Jake Byers <[e-mail]>
Cc: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US) <[e-mail]>; Leslie, Andrea J
<[e-mail]>; 'Tony Davis' <[e-mail]. net>; Christine Gears <[e-mail]>; Kevin
Tweedy <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
The lease agreement will be sufficient.
We need to account for that culvert impact. I'm not sure if William would cover it under the NWP27 or if he needs to
add another NWP to cover that fill. For now we at least need it explained, whether it's temporary or permanent and we
need it justified (if there's a trail there now, why does it need to be widened?) Greenways are usually justified as 10-12'
wide so we'd need an explanation for why the added culvert there. There's no way to go back and fix the online form so
what most people do is take the table from the old printed version of the PCN, fill it out and submit it as additional
information. Or create a new table and send it to us. Sending it by email is fine.
Please also comment on WRCs request to divert flows around the work area where you propose to not work in the dry
along the Fisher River.
Happy Thanksgiving
Thanks,
Sue Homewood
Division of Water Resources, Winston Salem Regional Office
Department of Environmental Quality
336 776 9693 office
336 813 1863 mobile
Sue. [e-mail]
450 W. Hanes Mill Rd, Suite 300
Winston Salem NC 27105

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From: Jake Byers <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 1:53 PM
To: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US) <[e-mail]>; Leslie, Andrea J
<[e-mail]>; 'Tony Davis' <[e-mail]. net>; Christine Gears <[e-mail]>; Kevin
Tweedy <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
Hi Sue,
Agent authorization —The county has a lease agreement (1977-2023) with the McCormicks for the portion of their
property on the park side of the Fisher River. We have approval to do the work from them. Do we still need an agent
authorization or will a copy of the recorded lease work?
Impacts —The culvert you mentioned was by request of the county to widen the existing trail through the park. We by
mistake did not add that 20' as permanent impact to that perennial stream. Do we need to just correct in the online
system? We're tying to get used to that system. There are not any wetlands within the project work area on this site so
the language of avoiding them was a holdover from a previous example.
Thanks and hope you have a great Thanksgiving.
-Jake
From: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 5:13 PM
To: Jake Byers <[e-mail]>
Cc: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US) <[e-mail]>; Leslie, Andrea J
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
Hi Jake,
A couple questions/comments about this one:
-in the application it mentions avoiding streams and wetlands along the construction route as much as possible and
using mats where possible. We need to see all jurisdictional features within the project limits (including access roads
and staging areas) and all impacts need to be identified on the PCN impact table, identified as temporary or permanent
and justified. Sheet 6 shows one such culvert, I believe, but it's unclear where there may be others or other
jurisdictional features.
-we need an owner authorization for both property owners, there's only one in the PCN package.

Thanks,
Sue Homewood
Division of Water Resources, Winston Salem Regional Office
Department of Environmental Quality
336 776 9693 office
336 813 1863 mobile
Sue. [e-mail]
450 W. Hanes Mill Rd, Suite 300
Winston Salem NC 27105
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