20181489 Ver 1_USACE Comments_20181211

Strickland, Bev
From: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US) <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County (UNCLASSIFIED)
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I received your update. I can do the culvert along with the NW27 under a NW18.
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From: Jake Byers [mailto:[e-mail]]
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
Sue,
Please find attached the updated impacts table for the Fisher River Project. We have added in the 20' of impacts from
the culvert.
This culvert is being installed to extend an exiting culvert along this stream to provide safety to park users, primarily
during cross country events. The culvert will be 20' long but will likely only extend the trial surface by approximately 10-
12' to provide a stable angle of repose on the face of the culvert and proper cover. This area, according to park staff has
always been a bottle neck during these events.
William, can this addition of 20' of impacts for the culvert go ahead and fall under the NWP 27 that the rest of the
project will fall under?
We're pushing to get this project permitted and constructed ASAP. We need the 401/404 approval prior to submitting
for an S&EC permit. Please let me know if you have any questions or if I can do anything to aid in your review.

Thanks,
-Jake
From: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 3:02 PM
To: Jake Byers <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
Hi Jake,
With regards to the extra culvert, I think the need could be justified but 20' is still pretty long as greenways (that are
often used for cross country meets) are usually 6-10' wide, so even if that's doubled it would be another 8-10' culvert so
we'd need a short statement explaining the justification for 20' long. Go ahead and send that and the updated impact
table while we wait for William to tell us what NWP number this would be covered under. I don't want to issue a 401 for
the wrong NWP and have to redo it.
Thanks,
Sue Homewood
Division of Water Resources, Winston Salem Regional Office Department of Environmental Quality
336 776 9693 office
336 813 1863 mobile
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Winston Salem NC 27105
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
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See attached for the lease agreement.
The culvert is being requested by Surry parks and rec to widen their trail. The parks director has stated that they have
cross country meets there regularly and that point becomes a significant bottle neck. However, if this is a regulatory
hurdle we can take it out. Let me know if this is a good enough reason for the impact. If so, we'll send an updated table.
I don't think I've seen or maybe misplaced the WRC comments. However I have received comments on similar projects
on large river systems regarding working in the wet. I appreciate the need to work in the dry as much as possible but
the Fisher River is a 61 square mile drainage area so pumping around is not a viable option. Installing diversions or
cofferdams is cost prohibitive and is likely to disturb as much or more then just doing the work. I can't lay my hands on
it right now but we have a map showing the rapid bank erosion along this bend on the fisher. This bend has lost 50' or
more bank in the last 15 years or so. The sediment entering the river and potential turbidity as a result of construction is
miniscule compared to what has already entered and what will continue to enter the river without this work. We will
pump around on the unnamed tributary. Please let me know if I am missing something or not addressing the intent of
the WRC comments.
Thanks,
-Jake
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County

The lease agreement will be sufficient.
We need to account for that culvert impact. I'm not sure if William would cover it under the NWP27 or if he needs to
add another NWP to cover that fill. For now we at least need it explained, whether it's temporary or permanent and we
need it justified (if there's a trail there now, why does it need to be widened?) Greenways are usually justified as 10-12'
wide so we'd need an explanation for why the added culvert there. There's no way to go back and fix the online form so
what most people do is take the table from the old printed version of the PCN, fill it out and submit it as additional
information. Or create a new table and send it to us. Sending it by email is fine.
Please also comment on WRCs request to divert flows around the work area where you propose to not work in the dry
along the Fisher River.
Happy Thanksgiving
Thanks,
Sue Homewood
Division of Water Resources, Winston Salem Regional Office Department of Environmental Quality
336 776 9693 office
336 813 1863 mobile
Sue. [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
450 W. Hanes Mill Rd, Suite 300
Winston Salem NC 27105
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From: Jake Byers <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >
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Subject: [External] RE: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County

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Hi Sue,
Agent authorization - The county has a lease agreement (1977-2023) with the McCormicks for the portion of their
property on the park side of the Fisher River. We have approval to do the work from them. Do we still need an agent
authorization or will a copy of the recorded lease work?
Impacts - The culvert you mentioned was by request of the county to widen the existing trail through the park. We by
mistake did not add that 20' as permanent impact to that perennial stream. Do we need to just correct in the online
system? We're tying to get used to that system. There are not any wetlands within the project work area on this site so
the language of avoiding them was a holdover from a previous example.
Thanks and hope you have a great Thanksgiving.
-Jake
From: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 5:13 PM
To: Jake Byers <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >
Cc: Elliott, William A CIV USARMY CESAW (US) <[e-mail]
<mailto:[e-mail]> >; Leslie, Andrea J <[e-mail]
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Subject: Fisher River Restoration - Surry County
Hi Jake,
A couple questions/comments about this one:

-in the application it mentions avoiding streams and wetlands along the construction route as much as possible and
using mats where possible. We need to see all jurisdictional features within the project limits (including access roads
and staging areas) and all impacts need to be identified on the PCN impact table, identified as temporary or permanent
and justified. Sheet 6 shows one such culvert, I believe, but it's unclear where there may be others or other
jurisdictional features.
-we need an owner authorization for both property owners, there's only one in the PCN package.
Thanks,
Sue Homewood
Division of Water Resources, Winston Salem Regional Office Department of Environmental Quality
336 776 9693 office
336 813 1863 mobile
Sue. [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
450 W. Hanes Mill Rd, Suite 300
Winston Salem NC 27105
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