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HomeMy WebLinkAbout20080868 Ver 2_Meeting Minutes_20060208 to VVA I . ?P? "& ? sa11- (x+11) C? ?u 1 0? L dyl- 1 ? , co'5 f u l P,w a 0 Lj'? 5 u ?C roc Ie-e k a'Sk 144W )",4,f z? zit ,' 1 Y /Vov? WO I VI cam . ti? ?i. _ z'?? ? ,.n C3 W G???S ?-?-?C ?il? CQ 41'lS ?? ? it?,m O?. MN (?a? 00 s v14 -so --I? sad J;Orz) 10 ? ecru ? ? a??-a?.,??? ?VTJ*N N rro 3rC PA IA rD ;-64 OL -oq lyj ::D-j O Q C?S P l v7UL Tti'2-- `?R ;?1\ sad`, rylt w ) ti,a ?' f aj?, V9V mk K s e;eb J VTA P?\? qA?? e,\ave, -?>? e, p e 4 -45 lll?r O? - [Fwd: PCS Comments] Subject: [Fwd: PCS Comments] CID 7- From: Jimmie Overton <jimmie.overton@ncmail.net> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:23:51 -0500 To: John Dorney <john.dorney@ncmail.net> ? ??%? Fleeks comments regarding benthos „ J -------- Original Message Return-Path:<eric.fleek(,,ncmail.net> Received:from relayl.ncmail.net (149.168.220.196) by ms0l.ncmail.net (7.3.120) id 47809BA300116071 for Jimmie. Overton(-,ncmail.net; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:23:26 -0500 Received:from relay l.ncmail.net (127.0.0.1) by relayl.ncmail.net (7.3.118) id 4780A59100162817 for Jimmie. Overton@ncmail.net; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:23:26 -0500 Received:from [10.251.199.188] (207.4.102.2) by relayl.ncmail.net (7.3.118) (authenticated as eric.fleek) id 4780A53600150EF6 for Jimmie.Overton(a-,ncmail.net; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:23:26 -0500 Message-ID:<4798AE05.9040904(a,ncmail.net> Date:Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:25:57 -0500 From:Eric Fleek <eric.fleek a,ncmail.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To:Jimmie Overton <Jimmie.Overton a,ncmail.net> Subject:PCS Comments Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My primary problem with their benthos data is that they make water quality conclusions based solely on relative abundances and diversities of benthos between sites *but do not include any analysis of the Biotic Index between sites*. To make water quality conclusions based on benthos (particularly where there are no EPT as is the case here) without any discussion of a BI is essentially worthless, but they do it anyway. My secondary problem are the taxa lists for their "timed" sweep samples. At all of the sites samples using a sweep, their collections were almost all just chironomids (maximum diversity using timed sweeps was *only 9 taxa*). Although I have never seen these streams, given their ecoregion and size I would expect at least /some/ Odonate taxa and some Coleoptera. *NONE* of their samples had any of these taxa. Moreover, I would expect a much richer Crustacean assemblage. Bottomline--I think their sampling methods are under sampling the habitat (and therefore diversity), and (combined with the lack of any BI analysis) make any conclusions of water quality differences between sites useless. So, if they are going to use benthos to make water quality conclusions between reference and impacted sites, both before/after DBR, they need to do the following: 1) Improve benthos sampling methods so that more taxa are collected, 1 of 2 2/12/2008 9:23 AM [Fwd: PCS Comments] thereby improving subsequent comparisons between sites (I'd recommend swamp sampling). 2) Include an analysis of Biotic Index difference between sites. I put the report back into your in box. Let me know if you have questions. Eric 2 of 2 2/12/2008 9:23 AM