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RE: Girl Scout Lake Meeting
Subject: RE: Girl Scout Lake Meeting
From: "Jones, Amanda D SAW" <Amanda. [e-mail]. army. mil>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:02:29 -0500
To: "Ian McMillan" <[e-mail]>
pencil in the 17th and I'll get back in touch with the details
Amanda Jones
Regulatory Project Manager
US Army Corps of Engineers
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Room 208
Asheville, NC 28801-5006
office: (828)-271-7980x.231
fax: [phone]
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From: Ian McMillan [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:20 PM
To: ]ones, Amanda D SAW
Subject: Re: Girl Scout Lake Meeting
Amanda, I can do the 16th, 17th or 18th as long as I can be back in Raleigh by 5:00 pm. I can start as
early as you want. Thanks, Ian
Jones, Amanda D SAW wrote:
I'm in the process of trying to set up an on-site meeting (in Statesville). I'm shooting for the week of
Dec. 15-19. How does that work for you?
Amanda Jones
Regulatory Project Manager
US Army Corps of Engineers
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Room 208
Asheville, NC 28801-5006
office: (828)-271-7980 x.231
fax: [phone]
web: http://Www.saw.usace.army.mil/wetlands/
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RE: Girl Scout Lake Meeting
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Re: Girl Scout Lake Mtg: Dec. 17th
Subject: Re: Girl Scout Lake Mtg: Dec. 17th
From: Alan Johnson <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:59:12 -0500
To: "Jones, Amanda D SAW" <Amanda, D. [e-mail]. army. mil>
CC: [e-mail]
naw...small incised channel, perennial, but nothing special. But a lot of
flooding. I guess the big question is how big does it need to be. Kind of tricky
since it is for the Girl Scouts and not some development.
Jones, Amanda D SAW wrote:
I'm handling the Girl Scout Lake in Iredell now and since I haven't been out
there, I'm trying to coordinate a meeting on Dec. 17th at llam with the
applicant/consultant. Ian McMillan is going to be there but also wanted to see if
you wanted to come. Just let me know, thanks.
/Amanda Jones/
/Regulatory Project Manager/
/US Army Corps of Engineers/
/Asheville Regulatory Field Office/
/151 Patton Avenue, Room 208/
/Asheville, NC 28801-5006/
/office: (828)-271-7980 x.231/
/fax: [phone]/
/web: //http://www.saw.usace.army.mil/wetlands//
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the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at our website at
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*From:* MBrame [mailto:[e-mail]]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:03 PM
*To:* Jones, Amanda D SAW
*Subject:* RE: The 17TH is great
Sounds great. We will see you then.
Sincerely,
Michael T. Brame
ECS Carolinas, LLP
4811 Koger Boulevard
Greensboro, NC 27407
Direct: 336-478-1633
Cellular: 336-362-1523
[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
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Re: Girl Scout Lake Mtg: Dec. 17th
*From:* Jones, Amanda D SAW [mailto:[e-mail]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:50 pm
*To:* MBrame
*Subject:* RE: The 17TH is great
How about llam?
//Amanda Jones//
//Regulatory Project Manager//
//US Army Corps of Engineers//
//Asheville//// Regulatory Field Office//
//151 Patton Avenue////, Room 208//
//Asheville////, NC 28801-5006//
//office: (828)-271-7980 x.231//
//fax: [phone]//
//web: ////http://www.saw.usace.army.mil/wetlands
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to the public. To help us ensure we continue to do so, please complete the
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*From:* MBrame [mailto:[e-mail]]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:38 PM
*To:* Jones, Amanda D SAW
*Subject:* The 17TH is great
Good Afternoon Amanda,
December 17TH is great. What time would you like to meet?
Michael T. Brame
ECS Carolinas, LLP
4811 Koger Boulevard
Greensboro, NC 27407
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Alan Johnson - [e-mail]
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Div. of Water Quality
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Mooresville, NC 28115
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programs "more purposeful," as one executive put it. Although November is
cookie month - your doorbell may be ringing - the Scouts don't want to be
known for cookies and camping anymore. Instead, executives use phrases like
"outcomes-based," "pathways," "gap teams," "fading brand image" and "market
share" to describe the new approach. (See pictures of pioneerin g to_e_n in
spacc) (Sc c pietu_res of pi oneering yvomcn in sports)
Part of that approach involves reducing the number of local Girl Scout councils
from 312 to > og through mergers. In some cases, the newly merged councils
have more facilities than they need. For example, when Camp Daisy moved
under the umbrella of the Kansas City, Mo., council, officers took a cold look at
the rustic horse barn. The council already has a state-of-the-art Scout
Equestrian center two hours away, which made Daisy's horse program an easy
target. (The Scouts are still to ine to fieure out iust what to do with Dais s 2 t
horses.)
In all, about half of the enlarged Kansas City council's 1,70o acres of camps are
being "rested" for a year while final decisions are made about their fates. That
includes Camp Oakledge, a 42o-acre lakefront retreat in the Missouri Ozarks
with a mile of shoreline. To some, "rested" is just a way of saying that the camps
will be sold. "It's difficult, but it's necessary to ensure the future of this
organization," says Girl Scout spokeswoman Gina Garvin of the Kansas City
area. Camps cost the council $1.7 million last year, so something has to give, she
explains.
Due to sagging cookie sales, a drop-off in donations and investment losses, the
Kansas City council expects a $1.6 million loss this year. Each council has its
own budget, separate from the national organization's $70 million. Nationally
in 2007, Scouts lost $1 million in membership dues and another $1 million in
grants and gifts.
Near Racine, Wis., Scouts just sold a camp for $7 million - they'd been trying
to unload it for years due to a lack of use. In New York, 65 acres along the Great
Peconic Bay was sold in 20o6 because girls just weren't attending camp. In New
Jersey, three councils merged into a single group with six camps - two of which
weren't being used much. Those two probably won't operate next summer, says
Mary Connell, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central and Southern New Jersey, which
will do a cost-benefit analysis of all the region's camps.
"We have a saying - we're operating at the speed of girls," Connell said. It
became clear 1o years ago that girls were no longer into pitching tents. Now
they prefer "yurts," circular huts modeled after the homes of Central Asian
nomads - but featuring Western amenities like electricity and handicap
accessibility. "These are 21st Century girls," says Connell. "They, at the very
least, want to be near a cell phone tower."
As part of their soul-searching, the Girl Scouts found that girls were so
bombarded with after-school sports, lessons and high-octane homework that
neither they nor their parents found Girl Scouts compelling enough to keep on
the calendar. "It was a brutal truth we had to confront," says Cathy Tisdale, the
Girl Scouts national vice president for "mission to market." So they set out to
become the "premiere leadership organization for girls." Troops and badges will
still exist - but girls can also choose to take "journeys" instead, opting, for
instance, to make a six-week foray into the community for service, rather than
meeting once a month in a church basement.
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career seminar on Saturday, they'll say, OK."
A new set of handbooks guide the "journeys," offering exercises in critical
thinking, ethical decision making, "assessing team dynamics" and "community
asset mapping." Is Juliette Low rolling in her grave as camps close down to
make way for jazzier Web content and global networking? Lee Ann Maley, a Girl
Scout executive in South Carolina, believes that the founder would approve of
the new model of assertive girlhood. "We're doing more with science,
technology, engineering and math," Maley says. "I think Juliette Low would be
standing up and blowing her horn - the girls can do it, too."
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