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Comments for 401 permit certification of the Atlantic Coast Pipeline
Rocky Mount Hearing
July 20, 2017
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Global warming is so powerful and damaging it must be considered.
Methane from f racking, compressor stations, pipelines—every step of the
gas development from tracking to the gas power plant releases methane.
Methane or natural gas is 86 times more potent than carbon dioxide in Ae
causing global warming. It is a tragic lie to call natural gas the clean fuel
or sustainable or the bridge fuel or better than coal. No it is none of these.
So no development of this pipeline in the coastal plain. Why? global
warming .... remember Hurricane Matthew? Floyd? We have huge regular floods.
Also, there must be rapid response by the pipeline construction company to
stabilize the i eline sit - o
9fd I'll e f storms and aa
hurricnes. We hve hea
avy
rin events— ak4',' flan must prevent and reduce erosion.
Secondarily; 1 oppose the ACP,for mpact 6n�water; water and soil, water and
wildlife and water ecosystems,
Lets look at drng, blasting, wetlands, and aquifers/groundwater—are these adequately
*rotected.
Drilling;
Drilling muds must tested for diesel and BTX'%
Any added chemicals besides Bentonite must be disclosed to DEQ.
No proprietary chemicals used.
Drilling mud disposal in solid waste landfills.
Blasting:
All blasting chemicals must be disclosed to DEQ.
Wetlands:
Good geological information to prevent groundwater contamination and
disruption of wetland water flow.
Prevent soil compaction in wetlands.
No fueling in wetlands.
No fuels within feet of wetlands.
What is the detailed mitigation plan for wetlands? Will more mitigation be needed if there is a
spill of drilling fluids?
Cessation of work if spill into wetlands. Immediate cleanup.
Aquifers: 0
How do you monitor the regional aquifers under the ACP? e4tri "IdAcry
Careful disposal into qualified landfills of drilling muds and cut soils

DE will delay, blame others, sue, call on the Feds to help, buy the NCGLAJ, threaten— They
have left countless North Carolinians without safe drinking water and property damage from
their huge pollution from coal ash waste pits. Why would DE behave differently if the ACP has
pollution, problems.
The tale of Rover Pipeline in, Ohio (Energy Transfer Partners) is instructive to this permit for the
ACO. Why"would DE be any better than ETP? They won't.
---There are chronic large drilling mud spills. Millions of galions released by Rover pipelines
work in Ohio.
—Diesel contamination found in drilling muds. The Company does not know how this could
have happenedH!
—Spilled 5000 gallons of drilling slurry when working on a five foot borehole that would go
under the Tuscarawas River,
—Inadvertent release of 2500 gallons of drilling mud in a nearby area 10 feet from the River,
inadvertent... inadvertent... inadvertent
fines... fines..Jines
NC DEQ Must be able to have an immediate temporary halt to work when mistakes are known
and spills happen. This project will take all your resources— resources you do not have—you
better be ready. %0-4
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I know this 401 ACP certification permit is very limiterit cannot be expected to be good
judgment for our future or to protect of human and environmental health or to be free of political
pressure.
This permit may be issued just because a wealthy energy company has a
plan for profit. The Plan could be suicidal but meet minimal water quality requirements.
Climate change doesn't matter;
The ACP is not needed— that doesn't matter;
The ACP is just a fine way for Duke Energy (DE) and Dominion to extract profit
from captive ratepayers --that doesn't matter;
The ACP may fail due to the threat that solar and wind with energy storage backup
may make the ACP obsolete and expensive—that doesn't matter.
The NC DEO does not have the resources to enforce compliance to its weak requirements —
that doesn't matter.
That thousand of citizens and landowners oppose the ACP but they
don't matter — DE and Dominion do,

DEC comments on 401 permit water impacts
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Raleigh, NC 27612
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My name is Karen Bearden. I have lived in Raleigh for almost 20 years.
As an avid birdwatcher, advocate for the Earth, and local food
advocate, MANY things about the POSSIBILITY of the PROPOSED
Atlantic Coast Pipeline upset me. I will mention a few briefly.
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The proposed Atlantic Coast Pipeline route crosses several major
North Carolina rivers, hundreds of smaller tributaries and feeder
streams, and miles of wetlands, endangering all living creatures. Nearly
600 acres of forested wetlands would be cleared for
cA,.,struction. Wetlands are crcal to protect since they provide
natural water filtration and protect and replenish surface waters. It's
ALL CONNECTENY
Pipelines destroy habitat, pollute the air, water, and soil. All
pipelines eventually leak. Loss of forested wetlands and clearing upland
forests creates fragmentation of forests that threatens the habitat
Af wildlife. r am an avid b irdwatc her. It breaks my heart to think
Af the toxins in the water affecting birds that live along the rivers and
wetlands like Common AAA Bald Eagle, kingfishers, and
wintering ducks.
The Atlantic Coast Pipeline has been routed along the 1-95 corridor in
such a way that it will disproportionately impact poor people, people of
color!, and indigenous peoples.

T,he growing use of f racked gas is making the climate crisis worse
because of the leakage of methane, which is over 80 times more
powerful, over a 20 -year range, as a greenhouse gas than carbon
dioxide. I'm tired of corporations doing what they please for prof it
with no thought of the harm they're doing to the Earth. There has
been too much destruction of land, air, and water quality as oil and
gas companies continue to destroy without consideration of Mother
Nature. The use of chemicals and pollutants must stop! We need a
healthy planet f irst if people are going to have good health and jobs.
Instead of building more pipelines, that aren't needed, and will lock us
into more years of toxic fossil fuels, NC needs to encourage energy
efficiency and clean renewables like solar and wind! We need better
public transportation and bike lanes to get cars off the road. By eating
local, sustai nably grown food, we make a key shift to move away from
fossil fuels. Those are the kinds of jobs we need in NCH
Instead of extracting and consuming we need to preserve and
re,qtore. We need to protect our water and conserve our land. I believe
it is impossible to construct the ACP without harmful impacts to
water, wildlife, and human health. I respectfully ask the Div. of Water
Resources not to grant a 401 permit for the Atlantic Coast Pipeline.

The proposed 600 mile Atlantic Coast Pipeline from Virginia through eastern North
Carolina is UNNEEDED, DANGEROUS, COSTLY and a blatant act of
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM.
The shorter original route through Raleigh was loudly rejected by Raleigh's affluent
community. Robeson County is home to 5 Native American tribes, low income white
and African American and Latina families who were being fed misinformation by
Duke and Dominion about lots of good jobs andtax flowing into the county offices.
Nearly 600 acres of forested wetlands would be cleared for construction causing
irreparable harm as the wetlands provide natural water filtration and protect and
replenish surface waters. Making an 8 foot deep trench for the pipeline through
wetlands creates a preferential flow path for contaminants to reach downstream
waters, and the deforestation from creating 75 -foot wide rights of way through
wetlands will cause a loss of shade, and unsuitable temperatures for animals that
live in the wetlands.
The human brain and heart are composed of 73% water. WATER IS LIFE.
THE ACP WILL CROSS NEARLY 7 MILES OF STREAMS AND DESTROY NEARLY 28
acres of forests and riverside vegetation. Moderate to severe droughts are no
stranger to N.C.
Wisdom will surely agree, THE RISKS OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS.
ACCIDENTS HAPPEN with ALL PIPELINES
RENEWABLE ENERGY like Wind, Solar and Geothermal will never run out, but oil
and gas will. The natural Ras leak in Loudon County,VA spread for 10 miles
resulting in Hundreds of emergency calls and hasty evacuations. Homeowners are
very worried about being close to the "potential impact radius" or Blast Zone, which
would extend to 943 feet. As pipeline talks continue, home values plummet. Having
owned and farmed their land for 3 or 4
have no place to go if their land were taken by "eminent domain " for pennies on the
dollar. That is ABUSE by Duke & Dominion. Homes in the vicinity will have to deal
with explosions, dust, crumbling roads and infrastructure and polluted air, and then
pay most of this $5.6 billion pipeline plus interest for a pipeline destined to be
underused or even abandoned in future years. Duke and Dominion donate large
sums of money to win the support of elected officials, This pipeline project is an
-xercise in misinformation, corporate greed, corruption and societal suicide. END

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bases for construction of the Atlantic Coast Pipeline fails to address the excessively extreme risks
to the water resources of" Eastern North Carolina; this includes but is not limited to above ground
reservoirs, regional water filtration structures such as wetlands, swamps, fiann lands composed of
numerous soil types, rivers, lakes, blue line strearns, interrnittent streams, farm ponds, aquifers and all
forms of aquatic life. The Atlantic Coast Pipeline will serve no purpose for the region as sufficient
capacity exist for power generation fuel transportation. The Atlantic Coast Pipeline will only
provide a measure of profit for wealthy investors while risking our water resources. 'Fhe risk to both
the Cape Fear and Tar-Parnlico river basins are unacceptable. These excess risk are well documented in
over 3,000 pipeline incidents across America since the year 2000 to date. I must emphasis
the extreme high risk a pipeline like the Atlantic Coast Pipeline exposes not only our water supply
and aquatic life too but poses an extreme, high risk to our entire regional way of life. On behalf of the
farmers, ranchers, and all Americans in Eastern North Carolina who rely on ground source water
supplies supporting all life, forms in this part of Arnerica; I request you take a necessary action to
terminate further development of the Atlantic ('east Pipeline.
Stuart Glover
4343NC', HY 42 East
Wilson, NC 27893

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1, Problems outweigh the benefits. Future costs and problems can be staggering. There are
enough pipelines now and for the future. New energy sources, solar and wind are less of a
problem.
1 Eminent Domain should not be used by company to make a profit for themselves. That is not
legal. Gas will be sold overseas. This is about money! Billions!
3. FERC should not rubber stamp a project to collect a fee. Conflict of interest.
4. Energy companies will not tell us how this helps our area or answer questions. This is three
years later and still no answers from the company.
5. Energy companies cause high pollution problems; remember the cold ash problem and how
they want the tax papers to pay for the recovery process. They got the previous governor and
the state legislature to reduce their fine. In a newspaper article Duke offered people in the coal
ash area 25 years of paid county water if they agree not to sue Duke later when they and their
children get sick and have cancer.
6. Jobs, taxes, gas, new companies coming into an area are not accurately portrayed by energy
companies. These claims are used by energy companies to get public support and are very
inaccurate and deceiving as they present them in their reports and ads.
7. Safety, water pollution, land values and damage to property and other losses are real problems.
Environmental issues, wasted resources, habitat and endangered species, people's health,
wetlands, greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and other issues are paramount and must come
first.
8. Companies and FERC do not check the pipelines adequately and leaks are found when they
explode. FERC issues a permit and does little afterwards (no regulation).
9. Welds and general workmanship in question after a 60 hour work week and workers being
pushed. The pipeline will be built in a rush. It will be poorly constructed, barely below ground,
and using the thinnest pipe. This is a money project only, little concern for safety, for short term
life of pipe, but will be pushed to long term use adding to the danger. On a state right of way,
the state will not accept this construction according to the state engineer. Also, they only test
selected welds that they know will pass,
10. If you are not a landowner, you are not informed even if the pipe is at your backdoor, Land
agents have been rude, pushy, untruthful and threatening in trying to get signatures. Farm land
will incur more loss than has been stated by the company, has been proven in other areas,
11. Rural areas have been targeted. There are less people to die. The poor and elderly and
environmentally endangered areas have been targeted. This is unconstitutional!
12. The environmental studies to FERC were incomplete and now outdated. The NC governor
should require new ones. The December 2016 green light by FERC was bases on incomplete and
faulty studies.
13. The pipeline tax will be on the pipe not the gas. Land owners will still pay the taxes and be habie
for damage to others yet they have no other voice in what is done.
14. The company can change their plan when they get the permit. They can build more pumping
stations and restrict your use of other land you own near the pipeline. No one tells you that.
15. Leaks are discovered when pipe explodes. No one can be helped during the fire. For 1500 feet;
total destruction will occur. In Nash county schools, homes, and businesses are in the zone.
Every window will shatter. How many children and people will die?

I6� How can energy companies betrusted? Remember coal ash issue inNC. They don't help with
the problem they have caused and itisput onback oftax payers,
17. Explosions create TOTAL destruction for considerable distance up to 1500 plus feet for a 42
inch pipe.
18. |fEastern NCS water supply iacompromised ~NO WATER°that entire area will suffers many
severe consequences.
19. Natural gas (methane) is a combination of very dangerous chemicals when burned it includes
benzene and especially formaldehyde, This isinitially 28times more dangerous than coal going
into the atmosphere, GLOBAL WARNING?
20. A leak, possibly up to 7% is accepted by the energy companies through the entire pipeline route.
21.This isabout money for the companies. Noconcern about us. Just build it,
32. Pipeline [snot iethe best interest #fthe state. Every person will pay more but are unaware.
Energy bills will goupfor every customer inthe state to pay for the pipeline.
23. Many local, state, national pipeline opponents aswell as many well-known non -profits are
opposed 10this due toobvious, and significant dangers, They are our protectors ofpeople,
land, water, air and wildlife.
24, This affects our daily lives, safety, environmental issues, water, air quality, land use and the
future ofour children. This isserious!
25. No one wants this in their back yard for good reason but every citizen is affected, Some people
may die and property bedestroyed along the route, Explosions are more frequent, However,
everyone will pay higher power bills hopay for the pipeline and when the water and
environment are impacted that will affect everyone. Land use, oswell oscommunity cohesion
and growth will beimpacted.
a. Talk toelective officials, many who support this project now, but don't understand the
issues and dangers involved.
b. Ask the governor torequire new environmental studies tmreplace outdated and incomplete
studies used by FERC previously and incorrectly to give an initial favorable view of the

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1. Problems outweigh the benefits. Future costs and problems can bestaggering, Thereare
enough pipelines now and for the future. New energy sources, solar and wind are less ofa
problem.
2. Eminent Dornain should not be used by company to make a profit for themselves. That isnot
legal. Gas will besold overseas. This isabout money! Billions!
3. FERC should not rubber stamp e project to collect afee. Conflict of interest,
4. Energy companies will not tell us how this helps our area or answer questions, This is three
years later and still noanswers from the company.
5. Energy companies cause high pollution problems; remember the cold ash problem and how
they want the tax papers to pay for the recovery process. They got the previous governor and
the state legislature toreduce their fine. |manewspaper article Duke offered people imthe coal
ash area 25years nfpaid county water if they agree not Lmsue Duke later when they and their
children get sick and have cancer,
G. Jobs, taxes, gas, new companies coming into an area are not accurately portrayed by energy
companies. These claims are used byenergy companies tmget public support and are very
inaccurate and deceiving asthey present them intheir reports and ads.
7. Safety, water pollution, land values and damage to property and other losses are real problems.
Environmental issues, wasted resources, habitat and endangered species, people's health,
wetlands, greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and otherissues are paramount and must come
first.
8. Companies and FERC donot check the pipelines adequately and leaks are found when they
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explode. FERC issues apermit and does little afterwards (no regulathon).
9. Welds and general workmanship inquestion after a60hour work week and workers being
pushed. The pipeline will be built in a rush. it will be poorly constructed, barely below ground,
and using the thinnest pipe, This is arnoney project only, little concern for safety, for short term
life ofpipe, but will bepushed tmlong term use adding tothe danger. (]nastate right ofway,
the state will not accept this construction according to the state engineer, Also, they only test
selected welds that they know will pass.
10. |fyou are not alandowner, you are not informed even ifthe pipe isatyour backdoor. Land
agents have been rude, pushy, untruthful and threatening in trying Loget signatures, Farm land
will incur more loss than has been stated bythe company, has been proven imother areas,
11. Rural areas have been targeted. There are less people tVdie, The poor and elderly and
environmentally endangered areas have been targeted, This imunconstitutional!
U The environmental studies toFERC were incomplete and now outdated. The NC governor
should require new ones, The December 2016 green light byFERC was bases onincomplete and
faulty studies,
13. The pipeline tax will bemnthe pipe not the gas, Land owners will still pay the taxes and beliable
for damage toothers yet they have noother voice inwhat isdone.
I4.The company can change their plan when they get the permit. They can build more pumping
stations and restrict your use ofother land you own near the pipeline. Noone tells you that,
15. Leaks are discovered when pipe explodes. No one can be helped during the fire. For 15O0feet;
total destruction will occur. |nNash county schools, homes, and businesses are |nthe zone.
Every window will shatter. Huvv many children and people will die?

16. How can energy companies be trusted? Remember coal ash issue in NC. They don't help with
the problem they have caused and it is put on back of tax payers,
17. Explosions create TOTAL destruction for considerable distance up to 1500 plus feet for a 42
inch pipe,
18. If Eastern NCS water supply is compromised -1\10 WATER= that entire area will suffers many
severe consequences.
19. Natural gas (methane) is a combination of very dangerous chemicals when burned it includes
benzene and especially formaldehyde. This is initially 20 times more dangerous than coal going
into the atmosphere. GLOBAL WARNING?
20. A leak, possibly up to 7% is accepted by the energy companies through the entire pipeline route.
21. This is about money for the companies. No concern about us. Just build it.
22. Pipeline is not in the best interest of the state. Every person will pay more but are unaware.
Energy bills will go up for every customer in the state to pay for the pipeline.
21 Many local, state, national pipeline opponents as well as many well-known non -profits are
opposed to this due to obvious, and significant dangers. They are our protectors of people,
land, water, air and wildlife.
24. This affects our daily lives, safety, environmental issues, water, air quality, land use and the
future of our children. This is serious!
25. No one wants this in their back yard for good reason but every citizen is affected. Some people
may die and property be destroyed along the route. Explosions are more frequent. However,
everyone will pay higher power bills to pay for the pipeline and when the water and
environment are impacted that will affect everyone. Land use, as well as community cohesion
and growth will be impacted.
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a. Talk to elective officials, many who support this project now, but don't understand the
issues and dangers involved.
b. Ask the governor to require new environmental studies to replace outdated and incomplete
studies used by FERC previously and incorrectly to give an initial favorable view of the
pipeline,
c. Ask the governor to protect our water,

Good evening. y name is Marcus Willis and I am here to state my support for this project. As
a resident of county I support the pipeline because it is safe, promotes energy
independence and will provide badly needed jobs for my county and the region.
The Atlantic Coast Pipeline is a crucial and safe infrastructure project for N r orth Carolina. We
need the pipeline because our growing state will need additional supplies of natural gas to meet
the growing energy needs of consumers-. 'The gas transported will be used to generate cleaner
electricity to heat homes and create jobs in the cornmunities crossed by the pipeline's route.
The pipeline is also a safer means of transporting natural gas as compared to highway, rail, and
water. Stream and wetland crossing techniques and pipeline construction methods meet state and
federal requirements designed to protect water quality. This project has had nearly three years of
review and input by numerous federal, state and local bodies. F'ERC and other agencies have
carefully analyzed the project for potential environmental impacts. The experts say this pipeline
is safe. I trust the experts,
Finally, I would never support something that I felt was remotely unsafe and/or harmful to my
family. I have heard from all sides the past three years during multiple public forums. I have
come to the conclusion that this project is not only crucial for our energy needs but, more
importantly, safe for me, my family and the community. It is now time to move forward with
this project.

List of pipeline accidents 'in the United States
On January 7, a Colonial Pipeline stubHne leaked gasoline into Shoal Creek, in Chaftal!100ga,
Fennessee
On January 14, the Ozark Pipeline, an Enbridge, now Marathon, division, spilled about 18,900
6
gallons of light oH, at the Lawrence Pump Station, near f--iaiftown, WSSOLII`i�� �`
On January 16, a gas pipeline exploded and burned, near Spearman, Texas, There were no
injuries.; `�
On January 25, a Magellan pipeline leaked 46,830 gallons (1, 115 barrels) of diesel fuel onto
prwate agricultural land, in Worth County, Iowa, near
On January 30, a Texas Department of Transportation crew dUg into the 30 inch Seaway
Pipeiine, near Blue Ridge, Texas, spraying crude oil across road. About 210,000 gallons of
crude were spilled. There were no injuries:`9T`,,4;
On January 31, a IOP pipeline exploded Under a runway, at Panola County Airport -Sharpe
Field in Texas There were no injuries, but the airport will shut that runway down for an extended
arnount of tirne,,,,,:.
On February 10, a Phillips 66 natural gas liquids pipeline (TENDS pipeline Sorrento
systern)'': near the Williams- tiscovery natural gas plant on US Route 90 near Paradic"
LrOuisrana exploded while being cleaned, killing one worker, and sending another worker to a
burn unit. Traffic on US 90 and La 631 was shut down and residents in the area evacuated.i,'
On February 15, a 36 -inch Kinder Morgan gas pipeline exploded and burned in Refi,,uguo County,
Texas, There were no injUries , r6'4�
On February 27, a crude oil pipeline ruptured in Falls City, 'Texas, Spilling about 42,630 gallons
of crude oil, The cause was from internal corrosions" "
w On March 29, a natural-gas leak of a high-pressure pipeline, in Providence, Rhode Island,
owned by Spectra Energy, released about 19 million cubic feet of natural gas, or enough natural
gas to heat and keep the lights on for 190,000 homes for a single day, Approximately two
gallons of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) were also released, in the forrn of contanninated
natural gas condensate.1
On AprH 4, a pump on the Dakota Access Pipeline spilled about 84 gallons of oil, at a purnp
station in I J0;`2, The leak was not noticed until May 9,il-`�
On April 13 and 14, it was discovered that Energy Transfer Partners spilled &lling fluid into two
separate wetlands in aural Ohio while constructing the ` r�o/el F.
The spiHs occurred in
wetlands near Richland County, Ohio, The spill on the '13th released 2 million gallons of drilling
fluid and the spill on the 14th released approximately 50,000 gallons of drii1ing fiord C'I
On April 21, a Plains Ali American Pipeline, experienced a crude oil rekease on the Buffalo
Pipeline, near Loyai, Oklahorna. About 19,000 gallons of crude oil was
On April 22, a 1,050 -gallon off pipeline spill near Bismarck, North Dakota polluted a tftutary of
the Little Missouri Rver, but was, prevented from flowing into the larger watervay.'
On May 8, a Wood River Pipelines (part of Koch industries) line broke in WarrensbUrg, iHlnois,
spill 250 gallons Of CRide
I On July 13, a contractor doing maintenance on Magellan's Longhorn Pipeline hit that pipeline,
in Bastrop County, '"rexas. About 50,000 gallons of crUde oil were spilled, resulfing in
evacuafions of nearby residents,l--

Y name is -- Eric Miller
I em a retired engineer.
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If the Atlantic Coast Pipeline, LLC. or any pipeline Is permitted to cross our waterways, then we neglect
All for survival and sustainability for now and our generations to carne.
There are three crucial reason why.
1. The permitting would: affect a disproportionately large impact on African American's water
Quality 67 % living along the pipeline route according to Dr. Ryan E. Emanuel, Ph.D Associate
Professor and University Faculty Scholar North Carolina State University with the Department of
Forestry and Environmental Resources analyzed dernographic data.;
2. , The ACP has chosen as its route the Appalachian Karst, also call the Coastal Plain Unconsolidated
sediments and Carbonate Rock. FERC has advised that Karst areas are avoided. Karst areas
according to Doctor Dan Doctor in his digital copy listed Karst in the United States: ALdilital map
comnilation and database: U.S. Geological Survey.0pen-bile Report That coastal plain units that
contain limestone and/or other carbonate mineral accumulations generally do not pose a risk of
subsidence through surface collapse. solutional meanings pathways in the sedimentary layers
exist, these pathways may contribute to enhancing rapid groundwater flow, and thus the aquifers
within these units may be susceptible to contamination from the surface. Therefore all people east
of this pipeline route water quality will be affected. ACP discloses how they will work with surface
water bodies but what about the subsurface bodies of water.. If nothing is done to protect all
sources, then eventually. the entire east coast of NC will become contaminated and all living
things impacted from Northampton to Robeson Counties
3. We need to take a very close look at the protection listed on NC DEQ site Sources of Potential
Ground water Contamination. It is stated there that with groundwater, once a contaminate - let's
say it is LNG - reaches the ground water arnong factors such as size, form and rate of movement,
and is hidden from view, contamination can go undetected for years. We are concerned not only
about our surface bodies of water but protection of subsurface areas also.
The Concerned Stewards of Halifax County adamantly ask that NO permitting is given since we are
coastal with turbulent weather conditions and personal effects on our properties.
This paper provides a breakdown of each reason.
A Precursor to the human development approach is a traditional list of immediate "basic needs" - food &
water, shelter, and clothing. Without water, the others cease to exist for ALI, living things. Limiting
factors in our environment can prevent living things from surviving. His findings shares the number of
African Americans affected by the impact of environmental justice to our water resources. He found that
African Americans make up nearly 52% of the county's population, yet they make up 67% of the people
living along the pipeline route in Halifax County. In contrast, the county is 40% White, yet Whites make
up only 19% of people living along the Pipeline route in Halifax County. He continues to share that If the
effects of the pipeline were equal in the county, you would expect about half of the people living along the
route to be African American, and you would expect about 40% of them to be White. Instead, you find
that African Americans make up a greater fraction of the population than expected, and Whites make up a
smaller fraction than expected. This is a disproportionately large impact on African Americans
living in Halifax County. Data that He used from the DI S give the following census tracts along the
pipeline route in Halifax: CT 9306, CT 9308, CT 9309, CT 9310d, CT 9301.
Secondly, frorn Northampton County on south to Robeson County However, where Therefore, my
concerns are if we must be careful of these sensitive areas even as it relates to tourist, then we should be
very careful of heavy pipelines, equipment and materials. According to Dr. Dan Doctor, a senior
Geologist: in his Karst in the United States: A digital jji�iD_Loni� Lti database U S
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Q en -File Report _ Re )()rt That coastal plain units that contain limestone and/or other carbonate mineral
accumulations generally do not pose a risk of subsidence through surface collapse. solutional meanings
pathways in the sedimentary layers exist, these pathways may contribute to enhancing rapid
groundwater flow, and thus the aquifers within these units may be susceptible to contamination from the
surface. There are Surface bodies of water but also Subsurface bodies of water such as underground
springs, sinking streams, piping cave, sinkholes. For an example, citizens affected by the pipeline's
impact near the surface Fishing Creek also have sub surface Fishing Creek under their properties as
revealed by Arcgis. On our properties, there is the surface historic Beaverdarn Swamp Creek Tributary
which is an aquifer of Fishing Creek needing portion of it unique Spiny Mussels of the Tar/ Pamlico River
Basin However, on the south end of our properties, there is the subsurface Beech swamp underground
which discharges in Scotland Neck, NC. ACP discloses how they will work with surface water bodies but
what about the subsurface bodies of water.. If nothing is done to protect all sources, then eventually. the
entire east coast of NC will become contaminated and all living things impacted from Northampton to
Robeson Counties.
Finally, it is very crucial according to your mission to protect our water supply that we esteem highly the
Wellhead Project Program. We need to take a very close look at the protection listed on NC DEQ site
Sources of Potential Ground water Contamination. It is stated there that with groundwater, once a
contaminate - let's say it is LNG - reaches the ground water among factors such as size, form and rate of
movement, and is hidden from view, contamination can go undetected for years. We are concerned not
only about our surface bodies of water but protection of subsurface areas also
We seek defense of water quality by protecting, preserving and conserving our water supply for ALL
livings, or otherwise it is imminent that nothing sustains, nor survives Let's protect our public and
private waterways.
Do not provide 401 permits. to destroy our communities, our, environments, our ecosystem, our
beautiful North Carolina, our Mother Earth which have been given dominion over by God such as of our
109 acres, 102 are impacted by stream stands either Perennial, intermittent, ephemeral, and ditches.
Protect All of us under your jurisdiction because characteristics for our farm is the same for all Halifax
County.
Valerie Williams
Concerned Stewards of Halifax County/ BREDL Chapter
[e-mail]
252,903.1340

Suggested citation:
Weary, D.J.., and Doctor, 1 .1-1., 2014, Karst in the United States: A digital map compilation and database: U.S.
Geological SLirvey Open -File Report 2014-1156, 23 p.,
ISSN 2331-1258 (online)

My name is Margaret Sowerwine. I'm a retired physician from Rocky Mount.
My concern is public health.
30 or 40 years ago we discovered that burning coal to produce electricity led to mercury
vapor in our air, which condensed into droplets that ended up in rivers and streams.
Smokestacks were altered and the plants produced less mercury, but there is still enough
�n our water that we advise pregnant women in eastern NC not to eat fish caught locally.
About 10 years ago we realized that r• ash from these plants was a source of
heavy metals n«• toxins. After the dam holding back a coal ash pond in Kingsto
TN broke in 2008, the effects of these toxins on human beings were studied extensivel
Multiple organ systems including the liver, kidneys, and Central Nervous System were
identified as potentially vulnerable. [1] 1
Determining "'safe" levels of these poisons in our water is difficult, because a single
element can affect more than one organ system, and the same target organ is often
damaged by more than one toxin., Plus over time our bodies can receive multiple doses
N f a poison.
The cumulative effect in our bodies is not known. But there certainly is an additive
effect, and there may be some toxins that act synergistically, multiplying the damage of
another.
Now we're talking about adding another source of poison to our water, one which has
many of the same toxins found in coal ash, and some extra chemicals added during
;txtracting the fuel in the process known as fracking.
How often could a leak happen? In eastern Pennsylvania, a Delaware County Safety
Committee analyzed the pipeline safety record of the company, SUNOCO , proposing the
350 -mile Mariner East Two Pipeline. The data suggested that those suburbs near
Philadelphia should expect a leak of some sort every 71/2 years along the County's 25 -
mile stretch of the pipeline. [2]
25 miles - and Nash County is to have 32 miles of the Atlantic Coast Pipeline. North
Carolina a total of 600 miles.
Margaret E. Sowerwine M.D.
2736 Pleasant Hill Road
Rocky Mount NC 27801
July 20, 2017
Nash Community College
[11 "Coal Ash: The Toxic Threat to Our Health and Environment". a Report from
Physicians for Social Responsibility, by Barbara Gottlieb, Sept. 2010.
[2] "Hazard Calculations For Sunoco's Mariner East II Pipeline"t by Middletown
Coalition For Community Safety, March 13, 2017.

My name is Margaret Sowerwine. I'm a retired physician from Rocky Mount.
My concern is public health.
30 or 40 years ago we discovered that burning coal to produce electricity led to mercury
vapor in our air, which condensed into droplets that ended up in rivers and streams.
Smokestacks were altered and the plants produced less mercury, but there is still enough
in our water that we advise pregnant women in eastern NC not to eat fish caught locally.
About 10 years ago we realized that the coal ash from these plants was a source of
heavy metals and other toxins. After the dam holding back a coal ash pond in Kingstoll
TN broke in 2008, the effects of these toxins on human beings were studied extensivel
Multiple organ systems including the liver, kidneys, and Central Nervous System were
identified as potentially vulnerable. [11
Determining "safe" levels of these poisons in our water is difficult, because a single
element can affect more than one organ system, and the same target organ is often
damaged by more than one toxin. Plus over time our bodies can receive multiple doses
of a poison.
The cumulative effect in our bodies is not known. But there certainly is an additive
effect, and there may be some toxins that act synergistically, multiplying the damage
another. 11
Now we're talking about adding another source of poison to our water, one which has
many of the same toxins found in coal ash, and some extra chemicals added during
extracting the fuel in the process known as fracking.
How often could a leak happen? In eastern Pennsylvania, a Delaware County Safety
Committee analyzed the pipeline safety record of the company, SUNOCO , proposing the
350 -mile Mariner East Two Pipeline. The data suggested that those suburbs near
Philadelphia should expect a leak of some sort every 71/2 years along the County's 25 -
mile stretch of the pipeline. (2]
25 miles - and Nash County is to have 32 miles of the Atlantic Coast Pipeline. North
C-arolina •
a total of 600 miles.
Margaret E. Sowerwine M.D,
2736 Pleasant Hill Road
Rocky Mount NC 27801
July 20, 2017
Nash Community College
[1] "Coal Ash: The Toxic Threat to Our Health and Environment". a Report from
Physicians for Social Responsibility, by Barbara Gottlieb, Sept. 2010.
721 "Hazard Calculations For Sunoco's Mariner East II Pipeline" by Middletown
Coalition For Community Safety, March 13, 2017.

Good evening,
I'm Gary Brown, Executive Director of the Northampton County
Economic Development Commission, here on behalf of Northampton
County Local Government and the Northampton County Board of
Commissioners.
For several years, the Northampton County (NC) Economic
Development Commission (NCEDC) and the Northampton County
Board of Commissioners have closely followed the development of the
Atlantic Coast Pipeline project. And we, and staff, have attended
numerous meetings and workshops, and have regularly engaged project
principals in furthering our understanding of the project.
The Atlantic Coast Pipeline is intended to meet the growing energy
needs of public utilities in Virginia and North Carolina for cleaner
electricity, residential home heating and power for local business and
industry. That demand is very real and growing.
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We believe the project will meet that objective, and will substantially
strengthen the energy and economic infrastructure for all of eastern
North Carolina.
From the onset, we have noted that Dominion Power and the other
project partners have been very diligent in working to meet all
regulatory requirements; designing to minimize environmental impact;
cooperatively responding to all agency recommendations; and
organizing a remarkably complex project with great attention to safe and
secure operations.
In Northampton County, in addition to strengthening our energy and
economic development infrastructure, the Atlantic Coast Pipeline project
will bring additional direct benefits, improving our local economy and
strengthening our tax base.
But most importantly, the Atlantic Coast Pipeline project addresses very
real, current energy demands.
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We in Northampton County understand that there are consequences
resulting from any development --- commercial, industrial, residential or
fanning. Our objective, as a local government, has been to manage that
development responsibly.
We have gone about that by assessing options through a prism of realism
and practicality. We've done so with the Atlantic Coast Pipeline
Proj ect.
If we, eliminate coal-fired power
,, in America and in this region, e1ii
production, we realistically need to develop alternative sources of
energy. Solar is good but, doesn't work well at night. Hydro and wind
are also good but building darns to flood more valleys is not a very
popular option, and except right along our coast the wind sort of comes
goes --- with the wind.
Accordingly, the Northampton Economic Development Commission and
the Northampton County Planning Board have endorsed the Atlantic
Coast Pipeline Project as a responsible and realistic means for
generating cleaner electricity in meeting the growing public energy
demand throughout eastern Virginia and North Carolina.
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Likewise the Northampton County Board of Commissioners
unanimously approved a Special Use Permit for construction of the ACP
compressor station and operations center to be located in Northampton
County.
On behalf of the Northampton County (NC) Economic Development
Commission, the Northampton County (NC) Planning Board and the
Northampton County (NC) Board of Commissioners, we encourage your
approval of the Atlantic Coast Pipeline project, and thank you for your
consideration and your service.
Gary Brown
Executive Director
Northampton County
Economic Development Commission
9495 NC -305 Highway
PO Box 685
Jackson, NC 27845
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Comments in Opposition to the Atlantic Coast Pipeline
Dr. Marvin "Marty" Richardson (Haliwa-Saponi Indian Tribe)
,July 20, 2017
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`llow, are you all doing? My, name is Dr. Marvin "Marty" Richardson. I am a citizen of the
flaliwa-Saponi Indian Tribe. I am glad that I can stand here with You today. Thank You for
allowing me to speak to you.'
I am speaking today to voice my opposition to the proposed Atlantic Coast Pipeline t`or
several reasons, including the negative impact on our environment, the disturbance to sacred and
archaeological sites of my ancestors, the lack of consultation with the sovereign Native nations
in our state, and my belief that we should all make a stronger ell'ort to build the infrastructure
and make the sacrifices needed to support and use renewable energy sources.
The Atlantic Coast Pipeline will have a devastating impact on forested wetlands, streams
and rivers, wildlife, and our atmosphere. The process of installing the pipeline will destroy
habitats for animals and disturb our water. Once installed, the natural gas flowing through the
pipeline will pose a threat to our environmental health if leaks occur and could cause a natural
disaster, These disasters have often been downplayed, ignored, and forgotten. The ACP will
promote an increased use of natural gas, which causes pollution and global warming emissions,
We should focus our efforts on energy Sources that are renewable and try to reduce our energy
usage. In our Native way, we have a concept of the Seven Generations. Our goal is to think about
how what we do today will affect seven generations to come. I would like our note -Native leaders
to adopt the Seven Generations way of thinking and lead our citizens to a way of life that
preserves the Earth for our descendants to come after us,

Many of our people oppose the Atlantic Coast Pipeline because of the risk of disturbance
to sacred sites, burial grounds, and village sites along the pipeline's path and a lack of
consultation about these matters. Our tribe's Saponi, Nansemond, Tuscarora and other
indigenous ancestors occupied portions of Brunswick, Greensville, Suffolk, Norfolk, and
Southampton Counties, Virginia, as well Northampton,,, 11alifiax, Nash Counties, North Carolina,
Undoubtedly, the pipeline will destroy and disturb important sites and areas, without any
consideration of their significance to surviving indigenous ancestors or tribal rights and claims.
Dominion Energy and others in support or involved with the pipeline should engage in a
meaningful dialogue and consultation with Native nations to make sure their concerns are
properly considered and mitigated.
In closing, it seems rather strange how projects Such as these are always planned in and
near poorer communities and communities of color. It reminds me of` how over thirty years ago
the state dumped soil laced with cancer causing PCB incur community in Warren County. .1 ask
that you do not grant the permits for the Atlantic Coast Pipeline; it is not needed and riot wanted
by our people. It does not properly consider the Seven Generations and those who come after LIS.
In the least, our tribe and other tribes in North Carolina should be properly consulted and advised
by the power company, the United States, Virginia, and North Carolina about sacred sites and
villages affected by the pipeline. As recognized Native nations with government -to -government
relationships we should have a seat at the table when making important decisions about our
ancestral territories,
Pi:ldhuk (Thank you)
Dr. M, -LI -Vin "Marty" Richardson (1-faliwa-Saponi Indian Tribe, Hollister, North Carolina)

Presentation
NC J
Public Hearing
Thursday Evening July 20, 2017
I'm not FROM here. I grew up in a 'river -town' in Ohio ... Zanesville - the
Y -Bridge city .. because we had a Y -Bridge at the confluence of two rivers
Licking and the Muskingum. They were part of our life and our
culture. I remember a job I had one summer while in high school ... an
intermittent chore shared with two buddies - one of whose father
headedPublic Works. WE were sewage/wastewater checkers at a
slaughter house along one of the rivers - probably FOR vacationing
regular checkers. On three different occasions that summer, we had to
monitor - hourly - the sewage channel in the basement of the packing
plant; recording the depth of the waste water, temperature, flow, and
visual appearance of the affluent being sent out into the river. I had the
.graveyard shift -11 to 7- for recording hourly checks .. Boring ... and you
couldn't get a transistor radio signal in that concrete basement. On the
positive side, they only "slaughtered" during the day .. so I only reported
minor fluctuations in a cloudy gray liquid flow. So ... there's a
reminiscence on water quality in an Ohio river 52 years ago.
I DID note other water occurrences... from a journal the following year:
May 27,1966 ...Went to the Prom - Ebb Tide - whole thing was
supposed to be underwater ... Then After -Prom.
May 28th .. Went to party at Bill's [remember him] ... 8:00 went to Pam's
it on the Muskingum River, got on board just as it started to rain.
May 29th ... We put the canoe in above Dillon Falls ... Took the rapids
down the Licking River to the Y Bridge then down the Muskingum.
In 2007 1 bought a 1917 farmhouse and adjacent acreage - I guess as
my Carolina country- som eday- reti rement-retreat. In 2014, the Atlantic
Coast Pipeline invasion began and I was in their'Path.'

What to do? ... It occurred to me, my old river -city buddy Bill is not only
an attorney, but and oil -and -gas attorney...so I called him to tell him of
my'attackers'...and he asked who .. I told him Dominion ... and he said HE
represents Dominion in Ohio and couldn't help... But I can remember
his brief advice: "Dominion is going to get what Dominion wants ... so
just get the best deal YOU can from them."
sorry .. I can't do that. I can't think back to fishing with my
uncle, parties on boats and along the banks, canoeing, and what rivers
and streams meant to me growing up., and NOT fear for what can
happen to all that is associated with water resources in North Carolina
So, I'm here ... and HERE are my -written, concern -3
Beyond the disruption and destruction of waterways, stream beds,
habitats for a variety of species, etc. through the construction process,
wMter supplies (ground water, pristine waterways, and wetlands)
cannot help but be jeopardized by "chemical pollution - via the pipeline
contents - unless natural gas industry standards for "acceptable"
routine leakage and loss are wrong - and contaminants from materials
used in creating the pipeline. But even the EPA chooses to look the
other way ... waiting, it seems, until there is sufficient disaster to warrant
some action.
Water supplies can be affected by factors currently controlled (or at
least not disruptively or destructively impacted) in proximity to their
respective streams, wetlands, etc. and potentially compromised, when
such factors are disturbed or modified by pipeline construction.
Without knowing the specific techniques of dealing with approaches to,
contact with, or disturbance of water resources - and resultant impact
on depth, flow, temperature, composition (and contamination) of
waterways and supplies - How can calamity be anticipated or avoided?
Early on, we heard that significant waterways and bodies of water
would be crossed by "boring" under the water, thereby not disturbing,

disrupting, or contaminating the flow. More recently, however, we have
heard projections that such boring would be cost -prohibitive and that
more'invasive'- but cheaper - methods, ie. trenching, coffer dams, and
blasting will likely be employed .. thereby compromising not just the
water quality, but its flow, temperature, composition, adjacent banks,
habitats, etc.
With so many variables a play in an ecology that is - or can be -
marginalized by commercial invasion, how can we gamble with a
resource as precious as water?
On behalf of that supply and to hopefully protect its quantity and quality
for our communities and future generations, I urge the Department of
Water Resources to deny the the Atlantic Coast Pipeline's permit
application.
BUT... I have serious doubts that ANY opposition to what Big Business
contends is in THEIR best interest will impact the decisions of boards
or commissions overseeing various permits required for the Atlantic
Coast Pipeline to proceed.
We have all heard the saying "Guns don't kill people...People kill
people." It is all too easy to disassociate oneself from direct action and
claim "It's not my fault .... I didn't DO it." Recently, a young woman was
found guilty of manslaughter in the suicide death of her boyfriend; the
defense attorney argued SHE didn't KILL him. But she enabled him ... by
encouraging and •even ordering him to do it. Big business has and
continues to champion disassociation .. andclaim innocence in any
wrong- doing where THEY did not directly 'pull the trigger' of the
smoking gun... To the specific point:
"Guns don't kill people ... People kill people"...and "Pipelines don't
contaminate water supplies.... Hydraulic fracturing
/drilling
contaminates water supplies." [But of course, the Hydraulicfracker
will disassociate themselves and claim "Hydraulic fracturing fluids
don't contaminate water ... Natural gas contaminates

Even the EPA (enabling g business) in a 2004 EPA report stated
"hydraulic fracturing fluids posed 'no threat' to underground drinking
water because fracturing fluids aren't necessarily hazardous, can't
travel far underground, and that there is 'no unequivocal evidence' of a
health risk."
Yet an article in Scientific American April 27, 2009 documente-Al
dents where "drilling for natural gas has caused explosions, polluted
aquifers, and even burning water"...specifically in western Pennsylvania
(in the same Marcellus, Shale formations under eastern Ohio [my home
state] where Fracking is occurring. To quote the Scientific American
article: "More than a thousand cases of contamination have been
documented by courts in Colorado, New Mexico, Alabama, Ohio, and
Pennsylvania." Of further note, the article states: "It is difficult to
pinpoint the exact cause of each contamination, or measure its spread
across the environment accurately because the precise nature and
concentration of the chemicals used by the industry are considered
trade secrets ... Not even the EPA knows exactly what's in the drilling
fluids."
In another article ("Drill for Natural Gas, Pollute Water") from
November 17, 2008, we are told: "In December 2007, a house in
Bainbridge, Ohio, exploded in a fiery ball. Investigators discovered that
the neighbors tap water contained so much methane that the house
ignited. A study released this month concluded that pressure caused by
hydraulic fracturing pushed the gas, which is naturally thousands of feet
below, through a system of cracks into the groundwater aquifer."
So what is MY point?.. We can't enable by disassociation. Granted, the
most dangerous direct threat to water resources is hydraulic
fracturinM / drilling - and WE are only talking about a pipeline to
transport the 'gas.' To contend that the pipeline should not be held
hostage due to the threat posed by fracking is as naive and irresponsible
as sayingthat smoking tobacco is deadly ♦hazardous ... but manufacturing
and marketing cigarettes is NOT (because the industry provides jobs
and economic benefits for families?) Those who enable ... ie. aid and
abet—the perpetrator of a crime are participants in the crime and
should be held responsible for their part in that crime.

It is already too late to prevent much of the devastation - the havoc
wreaked - on water supplies where fracking has occurred ... But •to sign
off on permits for transmission pipeline systems to transport the
fracked gas from those areas - and thus encouraging PROPOSED new
frackin•g - is being party to current and future devastation.
We can't be enablers ... At leastEven when the negative outcome
of an action is not assured ... even when it is yet 'unknown'... we
shouldn't be satisfied to err on the side of "MAYBE it will be all right."
Big Business is counting on us to enable them to do what they
want .. EVEN when THEY and WE know it AIN'T gonna be all right..
That should be obvious to anyone attending tonight's hearing in Nash
County:
We KNOW that smoking is hazardous to one's health that tobacco
consumption causes cancer.. BUT "Manufacturing and marketing
cigarettes don't kill people.... Smoking kills people." Right? I guess we are
supposed to remember that distinction. —Especially when we drive by
field after field after field after field of..."golden leaf."
Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this important process
and for your time and consideration.
Roger Drake, Professor

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N. Old Carriage Road, Rocky Mount, NC.
Good evening. My name is Harvey Richmond and I live in Cary, NC. I am a
volunteer leader with the Capital Group of the Sierra Club and former senior
environmental analyst with the U.S. EPA's Office of Air Quality Planning and
Standards. My comments today are my own and are not on behalf of any
organization. I have made the trip here this evening for several reasons.
First, maintaining clean water in our state is important to all North Carolinians,
not just those in the immediate path of this pipeline. On a personal note, I have
relatives who live downstream in Kinston and New Bern who could be impacted if
the Neuse River were to be contaminated by a spill or explosion along the
pipeline routeTheir source of drinking water could be impacted, as well as
M1. ability of my relatives, who love to fish, to fish in streams and rivers
downstream from the pipeline route.
Second, I am concerned that this pipeline's most direct and immediate impacts
will fall disproportionally on low income and rural communities, and communitie
of color, raising Environmental Justice issues. We know from Hurricanes Matthe
and Floyd that eastern North Carolina is subject to the threat of severe flooding
along much of the path of the proposed pipeline. Pipeline breaks or leakage
during a flooding event would likely lead to widespread contamination of land
and water along the pipeline route and also impact downstream communities,
many of which are rural and low income. I
Third, while Duke and Dominion Energy are now partners with the pipeline
developers and will ask rate payers to pay for the $5 billion cost of this pipeline
plus 11 to 14% profit for their shareholders, neither has convincingly shown that
this pipeline is needed in North Carolina. ACPs claim that population growth in
North Carolina from 2000 to 2030 is a basis to expect growth in demand is not
credible., Despite significant population growth over the last 17 years, overall
demand for electricity has been essentially flat. Money invested in energy

conservation, solar, wind and other forms of renewable energy can meet a
realistic forecast for energy demand over the coming decade. Duke and
Dominion Energy are running ads saying they are supporters, of renewable energ
but behind the scenes are pushing policies that t the development of
renewable energy sources and instead encourage the use of more natural gas.
You and I and North Carolinians across our great state will be asked to fund this
boondRawle through higher electricity rates, even if the pipeline is underutilized.
Finally, building this new natural gas pipeline encourages the increased use of
natural gas for the next 30 to 40 years or longer which would increase the amou
of methane released that would in turn exacerbate climate changei. We now
know that non -combustion methane emissions from the extraction and
transmission of fracked natural gas pose a significant risk to our climate. While
Duke and Dominion tout natural gas as a clean energy source in their ads, they
to acknowledge concerns about methane emissions or acknowledge that
methane is 80 times more powerful in terms of climate impact, over a 20 year
time horizon, compared to carbon dioxide. I
As reported in the L.A,ThTies on Judy 14.'�", "Norr-nan Bay, the outgoing chief of the
Federal Energy RegLflatory C.orad ssaori, whmch oversees p�pehne peirm�itting,
surprused the gas indUstry and actiOsts by cautioning that the federal approvab
process for gas pipelines was f of shortcomings, creating a risk of over -building.
�n as Si)(--rpage essay filed as part of a aMornmr scion proceeding, g anaNy of
fl ­ie indUstry, opined that regulators are not paying e11OUgh attention to �egidrnate
concerns about the long-terrn 0ability of the projects, th6r crnpact on &ba�
warming, andtfie hardships they can cat.,�se for communities along their rOLAes."
In conclusion, I believe it is impossible to construct the ACP without adverse
impacts to streams, rivers, wetlands, aquatic life, human health, Environmental
Justice, and our climate. I ask the Division of Water Resources to enforce the
Federal Clean Water Act requirements to protect our state's water quality and to
not grant a 401 permit for the Atlantic Coast Pipeline.

Thank you for providing me the opportunity to offer my comments this evening
and I trust that the Division of Water Quality staff will act in the interests of all
North Carolinians.
Harvey M. Richmond
106 Hebride, Ct.

Statement on East Coast Pipeline 7/21/19
My name is Ann Harrington and I live in Greenville NC. I rejoice to be here today and to
be live in a place that allows this to happen. The US is truly a great country. I am a,
Catholic priest and pastor of Free Spirit Inclusive Catholic Community. In our values
statement it says we will work toward ecological sustainability. I am here tonight to
advocate for that.
Many things bother me about the proposed pipeline. I have always been a nature ]over. I
cannot see a good reason for destroying 600 acres of forested wetlands. T his will have
long term impact as it will take 30 years to replace that forest, The loss of habitat for
many endangered and threatened animals is unacceptable to me
I grew up in Balto., Md. An early memory, a happy one is swimming in the Chesapeake
Bay. Maybe I was 6 years old. Shortly after that time that beach and many others were
closed due to industrial pollution. One ofthe things I love about NC is it's rich diversity
of natural places. To put the at risk is foolish. We know what it takes to restore lost
habitat, in lives, dollars and broken hearts. My son works in the tourist industry on the
Outer Batiks. His and many other people's livelihoods depend on the waters staying
clean.
We must make the sacrifice for an energy future that is sustainable and renewable, we
must learn to make decisions based on what our grandchildren and their grandchildren
will inherit. It is the time for us to embrace a legacy of a healthy planet for them.
Renewable energy is the best investment for the people. If the money for the pipeline
were invested in solar energy, there would be power for 3 10,000 homes.
Please, please, please reject this project. It is time to stop sacrificing life for gross profits.
You have a great responsibility. I urge you to follow the higher law of love that Jesus
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