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Friday, June 23, 2017 9:58 AM
Wanucha, Dave; Chambers, Marla J
'Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.army.mil'; Marella Buncick
(marella_buncick@fws.gov)
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William (Bill) S. Zerman, Jr. P.E.
NCDOT Hydraulics Unit
Direct (919) 707-6755
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From: Wanucha, Dave
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:57 AM
To: Zerman, William S<bzerman@ncdot.gov>; Chambers, Marla J
<marla.chambers@ncwildlife.org>
Cc:'Steven.L.Kichefsl<i@usace.army.mil' <Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.army.mil>; Marella
Buncick (marella_buncick@fws.gov) <marella_buncick@fws.gov>
Subject: RE: R-2915E 4B
AI I,
At site 6, the existing inlet is �60' downstream from a cattle watering
trough. Apparently the landowner tapped the spring since the JD. In any case, aquatic
habitat is minimal at this location. A drop structure seems warranted here. See
attached pics. The fence is the approx. R/W.
Unfortunately, due to steepness and vegetation at Site 22, I could not put eyes on the
outlet at this location. The inlet looked to be in good shape and the channel upstream
of the inlet appeared to have good habitat/substrate with strong flow and extends
upstream as shown on the plan sheets. Do you all have any pictures of the outlet? I
agree with Marla in terms of investigating other feasible methods to enhance aquatic
passage.
I did not have time to review other locations per Steve's email. Perhaps DOT could
double check those in the field and let us know?
Dave W
Dave Wanucha
Division of Water Resources
Transportation Permitting Unit
NC Department of Environmental Quality
336-776-9703 office
336-403-5655 mobile
Dave.Wanucha(c�ncdenr.gov
NC DEQ Winston Salem Regional Office
450 West Hanes Mill Road, Suite 300
Winston Salem, NC 27105
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North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
From: Zerman, William S
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:50 AM
To: Chambers, Marla J<marla.chambers@ncwildlife.or�>; Wanucha, Dave
<dave.wanucha@ncdenr.�ov>
Cc:'Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.army.mil' <Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.armv.mil>; Marella
Buncick (marella buncick@fws.�ov) <marella buncick@fws.�ov>
Subject: RE: R-2915E 4B
Thanks Marla. I'll check further into the feasibility of installing baffles in pipes. It will
need to be done on a site by site basis.
William (Bill) 5. Zerman, Jr. P.E.
NCDOT Hydraulics Unit
Direct (919) 707-6755
From: Chambers, Marla J
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:35 PM
To: Zerman, William S<bzerman@ncdot.�ov>; Wanucha, Dave
<dave.wanucha@ncdenr.�ov>
Cc:'Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.army.mil' <Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.army.mil>; Marella
Buncick (marella buncick@fws.�ov) <marella buncick@fws.�ov>
Subject: RE: R-2915E 4B
I am interested in Dave's input after visiting the sites. Currently, for Site 6 I'm leaning
toward concurring with the drop since there is only a relatively short stretch of aquatic
habitat upstream. For Site 22, not burying seems reasonable due to the 8% slope,
however I believe there should be another consideration for reducing velocities and/or
improving fish passage for this crossing and others. Marella asked if there was a way to
put baffles in concrete pipes, and while the answer given was 'no', I googled 'baffles in
round culverts' and found that it is possible. The first two resulting links are below, the
first is from New Zealand and seems to be simple, inexpensive, and can be installed in
the dry or wet. Those don't appear to take up much of the pipes capacity, especially the
blue flexible type. There were a few videos demonstrating installation and effectiveness.
http://www.ats-environmental.com/solutions/culvert-baffles/
http://www.dot.ca.�ov/hq/oppd/fishPassage/Chapter-7-Retrofit-Desi�n.pdf
One of my general questions from the plan sheets is'why are the retained culverts lined
with a smooth lining?' That seems counter to reducing velocities. Are there no other
alternatives that would provide roughness? I recommend that baffles in round culverts
be investigated for this project to see what benefits can be gained. Perhaps this can be
used and studied on this project for potential use statewide.
Other questions I have on the plan sheets and meeting notes are:
Sheet 4— On the far left of the page, the drainage structure "outlets to concrete lined
ditch", I was thinking the plan was to eliminate the concrete ditches. I may be thinking
of another project, but it seems like it was this one. Can we remove the concrete lined
ditch and install something that helps with velocity reduction and stormwater
treatment? Are there others that are still on the project?
Site 2A — Will the pipe still be perched? How much?
I'll check with our biologists on trout waters.
Marla
**PLEASE NOTE MY NEW PHONE NUMBER**
Marla Chambers // NCDOT Coordinator
Habitat Conservation Program
NC Wildlife Resources Commission
c/o NCDOT
206 Charter Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
Direct Office Line: 704-244-8907
mobile: 704-984-1070
Marla.chambers(a)_ncwildlife.orq
ncwildlife.orq
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From: Zerman, William S
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:15 PM
To: Chambers, Marla J<marla.chambers@ncwildlife.or�>; Wanucha, Dave
<dave.wanucha@ncdenr.�ov>
Cc:'Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.army.mil' <Steven.L.Kichefski@usace.army.mil>; Marella
Buncick (marella buncick@fws.�ov) <marella buncick@fws.�ov>
Subject: R-2915E 46
Hi Marla & Dave,
During the June 7th 4B meeting for R-2915E, there were two sites, #6 and #22 where we
were discussing aquatic habitat issues and need your input.
At site 6, the proposed 60" pipe (without a drop structure) has excessive outlet
velocities so we are proposing a drop structure verses the use of a rock energy
dissipator. We proposed a drop structure to dissipate outlet velocities thinking that
aquatic habitat may not have had a chance to develop in the short upstream section of
stream (^230 feet) from the spring to the pipe inlet. If we propose a rock energy
dissipator, it would mean additional stream impacts caused by the length of stream we
would need to protect with rock (probably +/- 25 additional feet). If you think that the
aquatic habitat is there and that additional stream impacts are justified by providing a
rock energy dissipator vrs a drop structure, we can make that change. Please let me
know what your thoughts are.
At site 22, we were discussing the need to bury the proposed pipe or not. Since the
proposed pipe (^'160 feet long) is on an 8% slope, we opted to not bury it. From
previous discussions concerning the bury/not bury issue, I use 4% as a maximum slope
to require the burying of pipe. The thought is that pipes exceeding a 4% slope may not
hold material inside them. Please let me know your thoughts on this site as well.
Steve & Marella, please let me know if the above does not accurately represent Agency
concerns.
William (Bill) S. Zerman, Jr. P.E.
Project Manager-TIP WEST
NCDOT Hydraulics Unit
North Carolina Department of Transportation
919 707 6755 office
919 810 8990 mobile
bzerman@ncdot.�ov
1590 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1590
1020 Birch Ridge Drive
Raleigh, NC 27610
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