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[Fwd: Fw: 401 permit application and stormwater permit application]
Subject: [Fwd: Fw: 401 permit application and stormwater permit application]
From: Chuck Wakild <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:42:30 -0400
To: Paul Rawls <[e-mail]>
CC: Ed Beck <[e-mail]>, Coleen Sullins <[e-mail]>, "Robin W. Smith"
<[e-mail]>, Cynd i. Karoly@ncmail. net, Matt Matthews <[e-mail]>
Paul,
Please review this situation asap and get the application on track if needed. Consider the
application idea put forward by James Taylor. Let me know. Thanks.
Subject: Fw: 401 permit application and stormwater permit application
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:30:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Coleen & Chuck -- I cant remember whether I forwarded this message
from my blackberry or not. If not, would you all take a look at this
situation and respond to Mr. Taylor. Sounds like the problem should be
fixable.
Thanks. Robin
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From: jtaylorCsegi.us
Date: Aug 12, 2008 11:44 AM
To: <[e-mail]>
Subj: 401 permit application and stormwater permit application
Hello:
I have a client (the project discussed by Craig Bromby where the
wetland
is a no-significant nexus wetland that we are using the isolated
permit
to fill along Hwy 17 in Hampstead, New Hanover County) who will be
facing another issue with their project.
I met with DWQ 401 and stormwater staff in Wilmington re: this
project.
401 states "policy" and the new PCN (that will take affect in
September)
requires them to have an issued stormwater plan prior to issuing a
401
certification/permit.
The stormwater staff stated he could not issue a stormwater permit
where
stormwater structures were located within a wetland since he would
need
a 401 cert/permit prior to issuing the stormwater permit in those
(perhaps limited) instances.
I see a catch 22 where my client will be (once we resolve any
remaining
issues) will still be in a waiting pattern, unable to get either
permit.
Since 401 and stormwater both do not like receiving different plans
for
their permit applications for the same project, is it possible to have
a
joint application? Say Part A for Stormwater and Part B for 401?
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This
way each consultant could still retain their work, 401 and Stormwater
would have the same plan to work from re: their permit application,
and
everyone would avoid the Catch 22 situation...
I am hoping we can all get together to avoid a potential problem that
would be time consuming and may The a bad situation for DENR, the
public, and for those who consult in those fields.
I have contacted Ed Beck in Wilmington and left messages in Raleigh
DWQ.
Since 401 and Stormwater consult on each other's permits anyway, I
thought a joint (Part A & Part B) application might be appropriate,
and
each Part could be independent of the other--you could allow
stormwater
section (Part A) to be completed separately when a stormwater plan
does
not require a wetland permit (leaving Part B with a checkbox stating
"No
wetland permit required").
Thanks for your time, and I apologize for taking up precious space in
your in-box.
Sincerely,
James Taylor
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