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Subject: Re: PCS Hell Swamp
From: John Dorney <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:41:31 -0400
To: Kyle Barnes <Kyle. Barne s@ncmail. net>
CC: Tammy L Hill <[e-mail]>, Roberto Scheller <[e-mail]>,
Eric Kulz <[e-mail]>
good thoughts and Kyle is right - anything other than planting trees for buffer
credit requires a variance from EMC. the EMC did not issue the variance earlier
but did express support for the general concept of flexible mitigation. Enjoy!
Kyle Barnes wrote:
Once again sorry that I can not make the meeting
the COE and the Town of Kitty Hawk on the coast.
proposed plan and came up with a couple of issues
after Roberto and Tammy hear what is said.
b/c of last minute issues with
I made a quick review of the
I think we will need to revisit
1) Purpose and need for channel relocation. Portions of Scotts Creek is a �A�
Secondary PNA and tidally influenced by wind. This creek is already well
established in its current position up to the first crossing and my feelings are
if it ain't broke leave it alone.
2) The tributary on the Northeastern portion of the property, the only one that
truly shows on the maps is not on ground. DWQ and the COE could only find a
Idi,tch in that area and it was no where near the indicated position. If you look
on Figure 7, (the restoration site plan) a buffered stream is indicated. The area
indicated with a stream is just a wetland with no channel. Can't buffer it if it
isn't there . `------------- — _ -
3) They sp ak o "Flexible Buffer Credi)a1ifor
orrect me if I am wrong but doesn't
that take a Vari nce from the EMC. I am discussing the option and how or
if we can support it as a group.
4) There needs to be bett ng data (ie. wells or something) to make m
feel bet e about the stream on the southeastern corner of the property. We t
never vikited that portion of the property I feel like they are hanging their
hat on t e LIDAR on this one. Tammy and Roberto please question this at the
meeting. I will take a look if I have time on Wednesday when I come back through
that are for a good connection downstream of Creek Road.
There is[a lot of Non Riparian Wetland Restoration proposed. The area has been a
very pro uctive farm for a long time and not done under a pump. I think the
projectas potential but this is one that better work due to the impacts that
are prop sed across the river. If there is a day in the near future that we can
all have a conference call and discuss things I am all for it.
Roberto a d Tammy give me a call if you need anything 252-402-5285.
Kyle
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LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL
Mr. Scott Jones (Corps)
Ms.Tracey Wheeler (Corps)
Mr. Sean McKenna (NCDMF)
Mr. David Moye (NCDCM)
Mr. Steve Trowell (NCDCM)
Mr. Mike Thomas (NCDCM)
Ms. Maria Dunn (NCWRC)
Mr. Richard Peed (NCDLR)
Mr. David Lekson (Corps)
FROM: Julia Kirkland Berger
DATE: 27 May 2008
Ms. Tammy Hill (NCDWQ)
Mr. Roberto Scheller (NCDWQ)
Mr. Scott Vinson (NCDWQ)
Mr. Jeff Furness (PCS)
Mr. Kevin Tweedy (Baker)
Mr Jonathan Ricketts (JTR Inc)
Mr. Jim Hudgens (CZR)
Ms. Julia Berger (CZR)
Mr Kyle Barnes (NCDWQ)
SUBJECT: Hell Swamp Mitigation Plan
WE ARE SENDING YOU: E Attached via Hand Delivery
Date
Description
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Hell Swamp Mitigation Plan
1 insert
Aerial photos (1970)
THESE ARE TRANSMITTED: E For review
REMARKS:
cc: Ross Smith, PCS Phosphate
File: 1745.59.66
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