20170151 Ver 1_B-4960 protected species surveys_20170201 (2)

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Monday, November 07, 2016 3:41 PM
Thomson, Nicole J
Wilson, Travis W.
Re: FW: B-4960 protected species surveys
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I have no objections to what is proposed. With regard to the small-whorled pogonia, I would be willing to let
the 2-year general rule-of-thumb slide for this species. A 2013 survey will be sufficient. However, this
exception will likely not apply to most other species.
Gary Jordan
Fish and Wildlife Biologist
Liaison to NCDOT
US Fish and Wildlife Service
SS1F Pylon Drive
Raleigh, NC 27606
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On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Thomson, Nicole J<nithomson2(a�ncdot.�ov> wrote:
Good morning! I need your help/review/input on the above attached documents.
The iirst is the abbreviated NRTR for the above TIP.
Just as a quick back ground of the project — this is a bridge that currently crosses Lake MacIntosh in Guilford
county and is falling apart. As in I wouldn't take a golf cart over it much less a car or utility truck. So, in
order to provide access to the properties on the north, as well as providing access for the numerous utility
companies that have a large easement through this area, Konica Drive (which parallels I-40 — this is right near
Red Oak Brewery FYI) will be extended. There is a UT to Little Alamance Creek that will be crossed (see the
attached 65% design plan). Due to existing grades, topography, etc. and the fact that the existing 66" CMP is

perched about 1%2', DOT is proposing a drop inlet and then a new 72" RCP. This will address the elevation
difference from the existing pipe to the extension. We wanted your input/concurrence on this approach before
we submit for approvals from the USACE and DWR; we met last week on this issue with Dave Bailey and
now are sharing with you. Our main justification is that the existing pipe is currently under I-40 and with it
being perched, we figure there is little to no "aquatic life passage" actually occurring.
The next item is the attached abbreviated NRTR. My concern is that the small whorled pogonia survey was
done in 2013; it has been my experience that you require the surveys to be no more than 2 years old. Pm
getting some push back that the 2013 survey will be acceptable and I'd rather discuss with you up front,
especially since there is habitat present, just no species in 2013.
Thanks to you both.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions.
Nikki
From: Fisher, Laura [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 9:17 AM
To: Thomson, Nicole J
Subject: FW: B-4960 protected species surveys
Nikki,
I don't know who I sent this to but here's the NRTR for you, sorry for the delay.
Laura
Laura Fisher, PE
Senior Transportation Engineer
D 919-854-6253
laura.fisher3(a�aecom.com

From: Fisher, Laura
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Nicole Thomson; Smitherman, Chris; J. Chad Reimakoski
Subject: FW: B-4960 protected species surveys
The NRTR in case you need it.
Laura Fisher, PE
Senior Transportation Engineer
D 919-854-6253
laura.fisher3(a�aecom.com
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