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Wanucha, Dave
From:Chambers, Marla J
Sent:Wednesday, October 19, 2016 2:35 PM
To:Matthews, Monte K SAW; Kichefski, Steven L SAW; Slaughter, Johnathan H; Eller, Douglas W
Cc:Dagnino, Carla S; Wanucha, Dave; Barrett, William A; Shown, Marc T; Buncick, Marella; '[e-mail]'
Subject:RE: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties
Attachments:R-2237C Mod XIV a.docx; R-2237C Mod XIV b.docx; R-2237C Mod XIV c.docx
See attached series of photos in 3 attachments.

Marla

Marla Chambers // NCDOT Coordinator
Habitat Conservation Program

NC Wildlife Resources Commission
c/o NCDOT
206 Charter Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
office: 704-982-9181
mobile: [phone]
[e-mail]

ncwildlife.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Chambers, Marla J
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 12:42 PM
To: 'Matthews, Monte K SAW' <[e-mail]>; 'Kichefski, Steven L SAW' <[e-mail]>; Slaughter, Johnathan H <[e-mail]>; Eller, Douglas
W
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Dagnino, Carla S <[e-mail]>; Wanucha, Dave <[e-mail]>; Barrett, William A <[e-mail]>; Shown, Marc T <[e-mail]>; Buncick, Marella
<[e-mail]>; '[e-mail]' <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties
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I met with the property owner, Mr. Marshall, and Dave Wanucha (DWR) on site yesterday. I took a number of photos, I'll share some in a subsequent email. The visit left me with additional
questions, particularly about
the erosion issue prompting the mod request. From the current outlet of the pipe downslope to the gravel road (Bills Lane), there appeared to be only minor erosion, however there has
been a washout of the road last
winter. That washout left a channel of gravel meandering through the relatively flat area between the road and the stream. Part of that flow took a direct path similar to where the pipe
is proposed, but it appears the
majority of the flow meandered parallel to the stream, through the relatively flat area for a ways. That area is approximately 75' wide between thee road and the stream.

So is that washout months ago the reason for the mod? Was the drainage pattern different upslope in the construction zone then? There was also a plastic flexible pipe upslope directing
the water away from the
current pipe outlet, is that temporary or permanent? Was that there during the washout or placed there afterwards? Could the washout have occurred due to certain circumstances that no
longer exist, or is this likely
a recurring problem? I'm trying to better understand the problem to make sure the solution makes sense.

The plans are calling for an 8' x 12' riprap pad between the pipe outlet and the stream, however there is a marker indicating the end of pipe at the edge of the stream channel, aimed
at a rock on the other side of the
small stream. So I'm not sure if the current plans are feasible and if they are, could the pipe outlet sooner and the riprap be extended to accomplish some treatment and energy dissipation.
Perhaps a riprap channel
could run parallel to the stream, like the path the washout flow took, for even better treatment and dissipation. Maybe a level spreader can be incorporated. Since the plans call for
the pipe to be zigzagged down the
slope, there appear to be many options for where the pipe crosses the road and emerges.

The installation of the zigzagging pipe would likely involve a lot of tree clearing and earth moving. I do question the need for all that and am concerned about it occurring during the
trout spawning season. Couldn't a
riprap drainage channel be run down the slope, like I see on large fill slopes? Or maybe all that's needed are a few strategically placed rocks upslope to spread out or redirect the
flow. Another thought we had in the
field was to collect the water on the upslope side if the road and run it in a ditch or pipe beside the road. If a pipe, then outlet it far enough away from the receiving stream to get
some treatment.

Those are some thoughts and questions. Seems like we need to get some people together to figure out what's really going on, what is needed to solve and how best to do it.

Marla

Marla Chambers // NCDOT Coordinator
Habitat Conservation Program

NC Wildlife Resources Commission
c/o NCDOT
206 Charter Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
office: 704-982-9181
mobile: [phone]
[e-mail]

ncwildlife.org

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chambers, Marla J
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:35 PM
To: Matthews, Monte K SAW <[e-mail]>; 'Kichefski, Steven L SAW' <[e-mail]>; Slaughter, Johnathan H <[e-mail]>; Eller, Douglas
W
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Dagnino, Carla S <[e-mail]>; Wanucha, Dave <[e-mail]>; Barrett, William A <[e-mail]>; Shown, Marc T <[e-mail]>; Buncick, Marella
<[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

I have reviewed the permit modification and have spoken with the property owner at the proposed outlet at Site XIV, Mr. Shannon Marshall. I'm scheduled to meet with him on site on Tuesday
to get a better view of
the situation. If I understand correctly, issues with Mr. Marshall (signing of drainage easement) will need to be resolved before the permit can be issued and construction take place.
It looks like that will probably go
beyond Nov. 1. Once we determine the best way to resolve this and the amount of work involved, I intend to allow a short suspension of the moratorium, just long enough to do the work.

Mr. Marshall appears to be trying to ensure that long term negative impacts to the trout stream and his property do not occur and that this is resolved is the best manner. I'm told that
shoulder berm gutters will be
used to transport water along the US 321 project into the pipe that takes it downhill and outlets on his property to flow to Baileys Camp Creek. Then an 8' long riprap dissipater outlet
pad is proposed between the pipe
and the stream (although the end of pipe is marked at the stream channel in the field). This provides little to no filtration or treatment of the stormwater. The pipe does reduce the
slope to be relatively flat the last 80'
or so and outlets at a 90 degree angle to the stream. The concerns are with both water quality and quantity/velocity. Erosive forces in the channel could jeopardize a pond dam at the
bank of the stream about 100 '
downstream, as well as impact the quality of the water in the trout stream.

I'm wondering if there are any opportunities for improvements here that could help Mr. Marshall and me feel more comfortable with this work, so we can move forward and get the erosion
situation fixed. Can riprap
ditches be used instead of shoulder berm gutters? Can the pipe outlet location be changed to allow for a longer riprap treatment and energy dissipation and a better angle to the stream?
Can the inside of the pipe be
roughened (such as a series of sills)? Can NCDOT agree to monitor the channel at and downstream of the pipe outlet to ensure long term stability?

I'm hoping we can find a way to protect the trout stream and move forward on this.

Marla

Marla Chambers // NCDOT Coordinator
Habitat Conservation Program

NC Wildlife Resources Commission
c/o NCDOT
206 Charter Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
office: 704-982-9181
mobile: [phone]
[e-mail]

ncwildlife.org

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kichefski, Steven L SAW \[mailto:[e-mail]\]
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:07 PM
To: Slaughter, Johnathan H <[e-mail]>; Eller, Douglas W <[e-mail]>; Chambers, Marla J <[e-mail]>
Cc: Matthews, Monte K SAW <[e-mail]>; Dagnino, Carla S <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

Heath/Marla,
Just wanted to let you know that in an effort to get this modification done as soon as possible, Monte will be working on this one. I have copied him on this email.

Regards,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Slaughter, Johnathan H \[mailto:[e-mail]\]
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:47 AM
To: Eller, Douglas W <[e-mail]>; Chambers, Marla J <[e-mail]>
Cc: Kichefski, Steven L SAW <[e-mail]>
Subject: \[EXTERNAL\] FW: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

Marla,

Be advised that this proposed work is being done to fix and ongoing erosion issue. I would think you would want it addressed even if during the winter. We are fine with doing the work
prior to 11/1 but that is
dependent on getting the modification back from the corps soon.

From: Chambers, Marla J
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:43 AM
To: Dagnino, Carla S <[e-mail]>
Cc: Slaughter, Johnathan H <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

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If the work can be done by Nov. 1, we can agree to delay the start of the moratorium until then. If not, I'll need more info as to how long it will take to do the in-water/in-buffer
work and how much soil disturbance and
potential for losing sediment into the stream there will be. I do request that ground-disturbing work occurring in the buffer during the 2-week delay be minimized.

Marla

Marla Chambers // NCDOT Coordinator

Habitat Conservation Program

NC Wildlife Resources Commission

c/o NCDOT

206 Charter Street

Albemarle, North Carolina 28001

office: 704-982-9181

mobile: [phone]

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From: Dagnino, Carla S
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:24 PM
To: Chambers, Marla J <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >
Subject: FW: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

Hi Marla,

Please see the email below. The Division is asking for an allowance to work instream beyond the moratorium date of October 15th.

Will you please give input on this - so they can address the problem at this site?

Thanks!

Carla

From: Eller, Douglas W
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:43 AM
To: Dagnino, Carla S
Cc: Slaughter, Johnathan H; Beaver, G Trent
Subject: RE: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

Carla

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Is there anyway we can get a verbal to proceed with this work or permission to install these rip rap dissipater pads after Oct 15. We desperately need to correct and prevent any further
erosion damages to the
property receiving our storm drain flow from the project. Currently we're waiting on AT&T to move they're lines in conflict. AT&T in notoriously slow and I'm afraid by their fault we
will be pushed a little passed the
Oct 15 timeframe. I think this is a benefit to all to get this addressed.

Thanks

Doug Eller

District Engineer

From: Slaughter, Johnathan H
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Beaver, G Trent; Eller, Douglas W
Subject: FW: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

FYI

From: Dagnino, Carla S
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:11 PM
To: '[e-mail]' <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Chapman, Amy <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
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Cc: [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> ; Cynthia VanDerWiele <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Joyner, Drew <[e-mail]

<mailto:[e-mail]> >; Militscher, Chris ([e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> ) <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Monte Matthews

([e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> ) <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Tony Able ([e-mail]

<mailto:[e-mail]> ) <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Al-Ghandour, Majed N <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Koch, Thomas K <[e-mail]

<mailto:[e-mail]> >; Carpenter,Kristi <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Chambers, Marla J <[e-mail]
<mailto:[e-mail]> >; Mellor, Colin <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; NCDOT Service Account - Roadway Design <[e-mail]
<mailto:[e-mail]> >; Pettyjohn, Michael A <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Slaughter, Johnathan H <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>; Staley,
Mark K <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Wanucha, Dave <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; Wilkins, Ronald B <[e-mail]
<mailto:[e-mail]> >; RaSharon King ([e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> ) <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >; [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
; Barrett,
William A <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >
Subject: Permit Modification Application for R-2237C Watauga/Caldwell Counties

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The Permit Modification Application for R-2237C has been posted to the website. The electronic copy can be viewed /downloaded at

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Named: R-2237C MOD Caldwell Watauga September 27 2016

Thank you.

Carla Dagnino

Western Region Environmental Program Supervisor II

Natural Environment Section

Project Development and Environmental Analysis

NC Department of Transportation

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