20051117 Ver 2_General Correspondence_20080417

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Ms. Cyndi Karoly, Supervisor
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Water Quality
401 Oversight/Express Review Permitting Unit
1650 Mail Service Center,
Raleigh, NC 27699-1650
Re: Lissara Development
DWQ Project OS=1117, Ver. 2 (Forsyth County)
Dear Ms. Karoly:
Thank you for the meeting yesterday in your office with our group and Sue
Homewood, Ian McMillan, and you. We realize that your staffing situation makes it hard
to find the extra time to sit down with all the applicants that are in your system at any
given time. Our hour with you and the staff was most appreciated.
While our interests in the main in applying for a lake permit might seem totally
adverse to each other, I can assure you they are not. We are concerned about how our
project will affect the environment and are striving to satisfy you, as gatekeepers, that our
project will affect the environment as minimally as possible. I fully understand that North
Carolina naturally has very few lakes and none apparently in our part of the state. Not
meaning to be flippant, but there are no natural roads in North Carolina either but we are
able to construct them with all of the ipterests of the citizens i~} mind, including the
environment. I see very little difference ip the two ultimately #n teems of the ~pviropm~nt.
Also, untii the legislature decrees that no more lakes/pods/impoundments cad be
constructed in North Carolina, it i$ obvious that there is an expeetatlon that others might
be constructed. Also obviously, yQUr protocol must be applied in a manpor thal~ allow
appropriate lakes to be built your division cannot "legislate" no mope lades tl}rough a
protocol"that cannot be met: I believe the core of your explanation to us, and fur which I
P.O. Box 10 Bethanla, NC 27010-0010 336-822-4000 Fax [phone]

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am most appreciative, is that you will work with our group (and all other groups) in a
reasonable way to see if both your needs and our desires can be accomplished when it
comes to a new lake. I can ask no more of you and your group than that, and we will
proceed with that expectation in the forefront of our process. It is therefore my
understanding that the previously stated belief on your staff s side that more than likely we
won't be able to pass your test is not the operative attitude moving forward.
I personally apologize to you and your staff if our inquisitiveness and my incredulity
in some of the areas of your protocol requests came across as personal challenges to either
your competence or your professionalism. While I may continue to disagree on the
causative relationship between the requested information and how our new lake will turn
out, I will chalk it up to different perspectives and different experience and skill sets. I'll
leave it at that. And I do appreciate your reflections on how others are handling this set of
requirements. That was as informative as any other aspect of our meeting.
We're moving ahead very quickly to see where we are and which path to follow. I
hope we can count on you and your staff s continuing guidance in this search.
Very truly yours,
Ramey, Inc.
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Jams . Armentrout
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Cc Lang Wilcox
Russ Willard
Pete Ramey
Brant Godfrey
Beau Dancy
P.O. Box 10 • Bethania, NC 27010-0010 • 336-822-4000 • Fax [phone]