20031338 Ver 1_More Info Received_20031029

® Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
11010 Raven Ridge Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27614 Phone: [phone] Fax: [phone]
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May 5, 2004
SSrEC, Inc. Project # 02-7451 .~";
DWQ Project # 03-016 ~'
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Department of Environment and Natural Resources 'f6'ETI.A~~pS ~ ~~~1 G~OIJP
Division of Water Quality
Attn: John Dorncy
2321 Crabtree Boulevard F'r~~1~~ ~) E. 2004
Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27604 ''~'JAT~fZ ~tUAU~i~' ~,c(;TlGn!
Re: Reply to the Division of Water Quality's Apri122, 2004 letter concerning the Permit rjh
Application for the proposed Phase II of Rutledbe Landinb Residential Subdivision, ~~}~j ' ~ r~
Knightdale, and Wake County, North Carolina Y/" `S~~t`~
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Dear Mr. Dorsey:
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This letter is in response to your letter dated April 22, 2003 (copy attached), which requested
additional inforniation in reference to the proposed Phase II of the Rutledge Landing Residential
Subdivision. The following restates your request and is followed by our response.
You are proposing to pipe and fill over 400 linear feet of surface water depicted as a
"stream" on your "Inset A" impact map. The feature is shown on as an internittent
stream on the Wake County Soil Survey. 'The DWQ Raleigh Regional Office (RRO) has
informed the DWQ Wetlands/Unit staff that this stream was not evaluated during their
March 8, 2000 on-site deterniination. It is our understanding that anon-site
determination of this feature was performed by the RRO on April 22, 2004. The RRO
determined that the stream is subject to the Neuse River Buffer Rules.
As stated in the original submittal, SSzEC did not conduct the original field work associated with
the wetlands and stream delineation on-site and likewise did not conduct the site meeting with
RRO staff to determine the buffer locations. We were however provided with a letter from Mr.
Steve Mitchell of the RRO that discussed the buffer deterniination on the site (see attached copy)
and was attached to a site map. Mr. Mitchell's March 28, 2000 letter states that " It was
determined that there is a named creek (Poplar Creek), an unnamed tributary and a pond
represented on the maps that are present on the ground and therefore subject to the Neuse River
Basin ..." It also states that "It was determined that the feature that emanates from the pond
becomes an intermittent stream and therefore subject to the Neuse River Basin..." This letter in
combination with the map that it refers to indicates that the feature in question was in fact
reviewed by the RRO and was determined to be lacking characteristics required of buffered
streams.
The site plan was developed to avoid and minimize impacts to the buffered features outlined in
the March 28, 2000 buffer letter. The previous consultant did not determine the feature with
proposed impacts exceeding 400 linear feet to be jurisdictional. This feature, which in some
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portions has characteristics more typical of a linear wetland, was deternined by the USACE to
be an interniittent/unimportant stream. At the time of the March 8, 2000 site meeting this
feature may not have had the characteristics required of a buffered stream and may have become
more defined due to offsite stormwater from the adjacent residential neighborhood.
According to 15A NCAC 2B.0233 section 3a, "Upon request, the Division or delegated local
authority shall make on-site determinations. Any disputes over on-site determinations shall be
referred to the Director in writing." According to the March 28, 20001etter the on-site
determination was made. S&EC is not aware of any written disputes requesting that the feature
be reevaluated for subjectivity to the Neuse Buffers.
The revised permit submittal showing the drainage feature as jurisdictional was submitted on
October 29, 2004 and was reviewed by DWQ staff. A letter dated January 22, 2004 was received
from DWQ, which requested additional information. This previous letter made no reference to
the feature being determined subject to the buffers.
In a meeting with Mr. Mitchell after receiving the January 22, 2004 it was deternined that if lots
were reconfigured so as to show avoidance of impacts during home construction, the 401-permit
could be obtained. The site planner made the necessary revisions, which resulted in the loss of
lots in good faith that the permit could be obtained. Given the existing road stub and constraints
with curving the road crossing over the perennial stream, redesigning the road so as to entirely
avoid the previously determined unbuffered stream is not feasible. We feel that the
determination that an additional feature now be buffered four years after a letter from the RRO
says that it is not is arbitrary and contrary to the regulations. We respectfully request that the
perniit be granted as per the revised lot layouts previously provided to your office.
Please call or email me at SClark = SandEC.com if you have any questions or require further
explanation.
Sincerely,
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Sean Clark
Attaclunents: 1) DWQ letter dated Apri122, 2004
2) March 28, 2000 Buffer letter
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