20021271 Ver 1_More Info Received_20020827

ING & NORRIS, PA
Civil Engineering & Planning
August 27, 2002
Mr. John Dorney
NC Division of Water Quality
Central Office
2321 Crabtree Boulevard
Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27604-2260
Re:
Additional Information for Autumn Park PUD -Holly
DWQ # 02-12-71
NBRRO 02-161
Dear Mr. Dorney,
I recently received your letter dated August 21, 2002, requesting additional information
for the Autumn Park PUD project in Holly Springs. The purpose of this letter is to
provide you with the requested additional information about the project in order to
facilitate DWQ's review of the PCN application submitted to you on August 8, 2002.
Five maps are included with this letter. As shown on the previously submitted "Wetlands
Impact Analysis" map, the project is separated into asingle-family home section and a
townhome section. Separate construction drawings were produced for each of these
sections, hence, two plan sheets labeled "C-4" are included with this letter. Included
maps are identified as:
C-22: Autumn Park Subdivision -Wetlands Impact Analysis
(this is the same plan that is included with the PCN Application)
EX-1: Autumn Park PUD -Wetlands, Stream &Neuse Buffer Delineation
C-3: Autumn Park Subdivision -Utility Plan
C-4: Autumn Park Subdivision -Storm Drainage & Erosion Control Plan
C-4: Autumn Park: Phase 3: Townhomes -
Grading, Drainage & Erosion Control Plan
The plan titled "EX-l :Autumn Park PUD -Wetlands, Stream &Neuse Buffer
Delineation" shows all wetlands, streams, ponds &Neuse Buffers present on the property
at a scale of 1"=100'. This map shows the exact same features as indicated on the plan
titled "C-22: Autumn Park Subdivision -Wetlands Impact Analysis". The Wake County
Soils Map indicates a stream connecting the pond near the middle of the property to the
pond on the southern border of the property. This feature was investigated by Spaulding
& Norris and found to be non-existent. Subsequently, a field concurrence meeting was
held with Ms. Deborah Edwards of the DWQ Raleigh Regional Office. During this
meeting, Ms. Edwards agreed that this mapped feature was in fact non-existent and ruled
Phone: [phone] ~ Fax: [phone] ~ 972 Trinity Road ~ Raleigh, North Carolina 27607

that this area and the pond near the center of the property was not subject to the Neuse
River Basin Buffer Rules. A copy of Ms. Edwards' letter to this effect is attached for
your reference. The off-site subject feature behind lots 46 & 47 was delineated by
Spaulding & Norris, but was not visited during the on-site concurrence meeting with Ms.
Edwards. Clearly, Spaulding & Norris does not contend this feature's existence or
subjectivity to the Neuse River Basin Buffer Rules. All Neuse Buffers on this property
are accurately indicated on the "Wetlands, Stream &Neuse Buffer Delineation" map.
The stormwater plan for the property is shown on the attached plan sheets titled "C-4:
Autumn Park Subdivision -Storm Drainage & Erosion Control Plan" and "C-4: Autumn
Park: Phase 3: Townhomes -Grading, Drainage & Erosion Control Plan". Locations of
all proposed level spreaders are indicated on the included plans. Diffuse flow will be
established at the exit point of all critical stormwater collection systems through the use
of level spreaders as indicated.
Your letter implies that a sewer easement is proposed behind lots 46 & 47, creating an
unnecessary disturbance in Zone 1 of the Neuse Buffer in that location. I believe that the
20-foot Semi-Opaque Landscape Buffer that surrounds this portion of the property was
misinterpreted as a sanitary sewer easement. The Town of Holly Springs has required
this landscape buffer in this area, further assuring the maintenance of the Neuse Buffer
behind lots 46 & 47. A copy of plan "C-3: Autumn Park Subdivision -Utility Plan" is
included with this letter to more clearly indicate how these lots are to be served and to
lend further assurance that no sanitary sewer easement is planned behind these lots. No
disturbance is proposed for Zone 1 of the Neuse Buffer in this location. However, as
stated in the PCN Application cover letter, some grading & revegetation, within Zone 2
only, is proposed on lots 46 & 47.
Again, thank you for your time spent reviewing this permit application. I hope that this
response to your request for additional information clarifies any questions or eases any
concerns you may have had about this project. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you
have further questions, comments or concerns about this application.
Sincerely,
Scott Mitchell
Cc: Mr. Mitchell Huff, Grossman Communities of NC, Inc.
Mr. Roy Conoly, Spaulding & Norris, PA

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Michael F. Easley, Governor
William G. Ross Jr., Secretary
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Alan W. Klimek, P.E., Director
Division of Water Quality
August 21, 2002
DWQ # 02-12-71
Wake County
CERTIFIED MAIL -RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Mitchell Huff
Grossman Communities of NC, Inc.
Post Office Box 12033
Durham, NC 27709
Dear Mr. Huff:
On August 8, 2002 the Division of Water Quality (DWQ) was notified by receipt of your
application regarding your plan to fill wetland for the purpose of the Autumn Park PUD in Wake
County. Approval from DWQ is required to disturb these areas. Please provide seven copies of the
following information and refer to the DWQ# listed above in your reply. In particular as described in
15A NCAC 2B .0502, we will require you to locate all streams and ponds on the property. Please
show these on maps of suitable scale (for instance 1" = 100 feet) so we can begin to determine your
projects' compliance with 15A NCAC 2H .0500.
~1. The stormwater plan must show diffuse flow through the buffers.
2. Lots 46 & 47 show impacts in Zone 1 with sewer easement encroachment. Please provide
information as to why these can't be avoided or redesigned to avoid these impacts.
Please telephone me at 919-733-1786 if you have any questions or would require copies of
our rules or procedural materials. This project will remain on hold as incomplete in accordance with
15A NCAC 2H .0505(c). The processing time for this application will begin when this information is
received. If we do not hear from you by writing within three (3) weeks we will assume you no longer
want to pursue the project and will consider it withdrawn.
Y~~
t R. Dorney
Water Quality rtification Program
cc: Raleigh DWQ Regional Office
Raleigh Corps of Engineers
Central Files
File Copy
Scott Mitchell, Spaulding & Norris, PA, 972 Trinity Road, Raleigh, NC 27607
N. C. Division of Water Quality, 401 Wetlands Certification Unit,
1650 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1650 (Mailing Address)
2321 Crabtree Blvd., Raleigh, NC 27604-2260 (Location)
[phone] (phone), 919-733-6893 (fax), (http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/ncwetlands
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State of North Carolina
Department of Environment
and Natural Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
Michael F. Easley, Governor
William G. (Bill) Ross, Secretary
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NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
Division of Water Quality
July 16, 2002
Roy Conoly
Spaulding & Norris, P.A.
972 Trinity Road
Raleigh, i3C 276x7
Subject
Dear Mr. Conoly:
Neuse River Basin Buffer Rules
NBRRO 02-161
Autumn Park
Holly Springs, Wake County, NC
On June 27, 2002, I conducted a site visit of feature A involved in the above referenced
project as identified on the attached maps. It was determined that feature A shown on the Wake
County Soil Survey and on the USGS Apex, NC Quad map could potentially be subject to
protection under the Neuse River Basin: Nutrient Sensitive Waters Management Strategy;
Protection and Maintenance of Existing Riparian Areas, Administrative Code T15A: 02B.0233
(NCAC .0233). Feature A and the pond are not subject.
This letter only addresses the applicability of the Neuse Buffer Rules. For information
relevant to wetlands and other impacts, please contact the Central Office at 733-1786. Thank you
for your attention to this matter and if this office can be of any assistance or if you have additional
questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Sincerely,
~~~z
Deborah Edwards
Environmental Specialist I
cc: John Dorney/DWQ
Wake County
1628 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1628 Telephone [phone] FAX [phone]
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