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Strickland, Bev
From:Smith, Cherri L
Sent:Thursday, March 03, 2016 1:48 PM
To:'Joe Ogden'
Cc:James Wang; 'Bob Zarzecki'
Subject:RE: 8629 Glennwood Avenue (DWR 20160163)
Joe,

The timing of you forwarding this email couldn’t be better because I was just looking at your application. James with the
Division of Water Resources determined that the stream is subject to the Neuse Riparian Buffers at the confluence of
the two streams so this road crossing does not require a riparian buffer authorization. My understanding is that David
Schaeffer with the Corps determined that the stream is jurisdictional farther upstream from this confluence, and
therefore, the crossing does require a 404 Permit and a 401 Certification. So I’m planning to just issue a 401
Certification and not an accompanying buffer authorization for this project. The Corps should also be issuing the 404
Permit. Let me know if you have any questions because I’m planning to do the 401 Certification shortly.

Cherri

From: Joe Ogden \[mailto:[e-mail]\]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 1:31 PM
To: Smith, Cherri L <[e-mail]>
Cc: James Wang <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: 8629 Glennwood Avenue (DWR 20160163)

Hi Cherri,

We just received this email and was wondering if you could check the status of our permit application?

Thanks,
Joe

From: Bob Zarzecki \[mailto:[e-mail]\]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 3:46 PM
To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
Subject: 8629 Glennwood Avenue (DWR 20160163)

Mr. Wang & Mr. Ogden:

Please don’t take this email the wrong way, I just felt compelled to point out something in your
application that could be helpful to you.

I ran across your application while looking for another project and something caught my eye. In your
application you reference the 12/3/15 stream determination performed by DWR. You also mention
that Dave Shaeffer has performed a jurisdictional determination on the property, I assume Dave and
James met you on property the same time. You asked for 75 feet of intermittent stream impact and
buffer impact. The DWR stream determination letter however says that the stream starts at the
confluence of the two drainages shown on the map. I assume this to mean that James determined
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the drainages above this point to be ephemeral streams or simply no streams present, and otherwise
not subject to the buffers. I would presume that Dave made the same determination that that the
jurisdictional stream starts at the confluence, and that no jurisdictional waters exist above it. However,
when I look at your site plans you extend both stream(s) and the buffer on the northern stream to the
property eastern property line, well above the confluence point and where I think DWR determined
the stream to start at. If my assumptions above are correct, then it appears that you’re proposing to
cross with the road above the intermittent stream and buffers. If they are also not jurisdictional by the
Corps, then you shouldn’t need a permit from either the Corps or DWR for this project.

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Hope this is helpful.

Cheers!

Bob Zarzecki

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