20071880 Ver 1_More Info Received_20071211

Rob Dolsak
10200 Pointview Court
Orlando, FL 32836-3700
January 4, 2008
Mr. Kevin Barnett
Surface Water Protection
2090 US HWY 70
Swannanoa, NC 28778
Mrs. Cyndi Karoly
401 Permitting Unit
1650 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1650
Section
Re: DWQ Project # 07-1880
Dear Mr. Barnett and Mrs. Karoly,
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I am responding to your letter requesting additional information dated December
10, 2007 regarding my application for a shoreline stabilization permit. Since
receiving your letter I was unable to travel to my property on Lake Glenville until
the first week in January of 2008 to collect the additional information and photos
you requested. I had made 3 phone call attempts leaving messages for Mr.
Barnett during this time attempting to expiair~ that i would need a~i eziension of
time to make the trip and needed some clarification as to information you were
requesting. However, I trust you will receive this in a timely manner and this
additional information will be sufficient. I would like to request that you continue
to review this application for shoreline stabilization.
Additional Information requested:
1. "Lack of practical alternatives" The shoreline on this property has never
been developed and has been eroding away since the lake was formed. Due to
boating activity and heavy wave action at times this shoreline has severe
deterioration with a lot of exposed tree roots. A tree has already fallen due to
erosion and others may fall soon if the shore is not stabilized.

The shoreline has rescinded landward over 10' and has eroded away in some
places causing 8' vertical drops with hallow caves forming under tree root
structures. This is causing a very unstable shoreline for the trees and can be
dangerous for people to be near. Natural stabilization or Bioengineering will not
work due to the severity of erosion and wave action at this location. The only
practical solution is to use a hardening structure like Rip Rap with dirt
replacement to protect the trees, encourage their growth and prevent any trees
from dying and falling in the future.
2. "Additional Photos with a Scale" Included are some additional photos
showing the severe erosion at the shoreline. The photos have a measuring 2" X
4" with numbers marked at (1) foot intervals and or a person to depict scale.
Also depicted is the caving of the eroded shore where the dirt has been washed
out from under the trees causing instability.
3. "Description of existing vegetation" The ground vegetation within 50' of the
shore is mainly compacted fallen leaves and pine needles from White Pine trees.
The area is mostly shaded so virtually no plants are seen. The trees on this
section of the property are comprised of Oak, White Pine, Hemlock, Maple, Elm
and Mountain Laurel. There are some small saplings of these trees less than 1"
in diameter as well.
To complete this project properly for long term benefit to the shoreline, some
small trees may have to be trimmed or cut to gain access. If vegetation has to be
cut it will be done at ground level so they can grow back or will be replaced with
like kind. Care will be taken to keep ground cover disturbance to a minimum.
Any area where the ground cover was disturbed will be allowed to return to its
natural state after project completion. An attempt to back fill dirt under and
around the exposed tree roots will be made to save the existing trees where the
dirt has been eroded.
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Hopefully tnrs additional inrorrnation win oe neiprui in conunuit~ig me review of my
application. Thank you for your time and consideration. Please contact me if
you have further questions.
Sincerely,
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Rob Dolsak
Ph: 407-234-9050

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Division of Water Quality
December 10, 2007
DWQ Project # 07-1880
Jackson County
CERTIFIED MAIL: RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
7006 3450 0002 7064 2226
Rob Dolsak
10200 Pointview Court
Orlando, Florida 32836
Subject Property: Lot 16, Unit 3, Strawberry Hill
Glenville, NC
REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION
Dear Mr. Dolsak:
On November 5, 2007, the NC Division of Water Quality received your new application
for shoreline stabilization with respect to your property on Lake Glenville. Based on our
review of your submitted application, the DWQ has determined that your application
was incomplete and/or provided inaccurate information as discussed below. The DWQ
will require additional information in order to process your application to impact
protected wetlands and/or streams on the subject property. Therefore, unless we
receive the additional information requested below, we will have to move toward denial
of your application as required by 15A NCAC 2H .0506 and will place this project on
hold as incomplete until we receive this additional information. Please provide the
following information so that we may continue to review your project.
Additional Information Requested:
1. 15A NCAC 02H .0506 (f) requires that "a lack of practical alternatives" be
demonstrated. No discussion with respect to natural stabilization or lower impact
stabilization have been discussed.
401 Wetlands Certification Unit
1650 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-1650
2321 Crabtree Boulevard. Suite 250, Raleigh, North Carolina 27604
Phone: [phone] FAX [phone] /Internet: htt;~:;''h2o.er,r.st~te.nc.us%nc~~~retEands
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January 16, 2007
2. In accordance with meetings with Duke Power Representatives during the spring
of 2004, photographs should accompany each application detailing the eroded
areas, site conditions, and provide a scale from which the Division of Water
Quality can determine the extent of the eroded cut bank should accompany the
submitted application. The submitted documentation provides no scale nor
provides a compelling justification for the requested impacts.
3. Application Item II, 8. b. asks for a description of the existing vegetation within 50
feet of the edge of water. As Lake Glenville is classed Water Supply -III, B,
Trout, HQW, there is a required 25 foot wooded trout buffer (15A NCAC 04B
.0125) overlaid with a 30 foot vegetated Water Supply Watershed buffer (12A
NCAC 02B .0215). A discussion as to how this will be maintained, enhanced
should be provided
You must provide a clear and concise response to the above listed deficiencies. Please
respond before the close of business on January 7, 2007 by sending 5 copies of this
information to both the 401 Permitting Unit at:
Mrs. Cyndi Karoly
401 Permitting Unit
1650 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1650
and a copy to the Asheville Regional Office at:
Kevin Barnett
Surface Water Protection Section
2090 US HWY 70
Swannanoa, NC 28778
If we do not hear from you before January 7, 2007, we will assume that you no longer
want to pursue this project and we will consider the project as withdrawn.

Donald I3aurlc
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January 16, 2007
This letter only addresses the application review and does not authorize any impacts to
wetland, waters or protected buffers. Please be aware that any impacts requested
within your application are not authorized (at this time) by the DWQ. Please call Mr.
Kevin Barnett at 828-296-4657 if you have any questions regarding or would like to set
up a meeting to discuss this matter.
Sincerely,
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Roger C. Edwards, Regional Supervisor
Division of Water Quality
Surface Water Protection Section
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cc: USACE Asheville Regulatory Field Office
David McHenry, Wildlife Resources Commission
Lisa Leatherman, Duke Energy Lake Management
271 NP&L Loop Road
Franklin, NC 28734
Cyndi Karoly, 401 /Wetlands Central Office
File Copy
Central Files
Filename: 07-1880.RobDolsak.Add-Info

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