SW8080807_HISTORICAL FILE_20100115

STORMWATER DIVISION CODING SHEET
POST-CONSTRUCTION PERMITS
PERMIT NO. SW8 (��0
DOC TYPE ❑ CURRENT PERMIT
❑ APPROVED PLANS
Pf HISTORICAL FILE
❑ COMPLIANCE EVALUATION INSPECTION
DOC DATE mo U �L t 5
YYYYMMDD

_ r
NCDENR
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Water Quality
Beverly Eaves Perdue Colleen H. Sullins Dee Freeman
Governor Director Secretary
January 15, 2010
Mr. Billy Miller, Development Committee Chairman
Wrightsboro Baptist Church
2736 Castle Hayne Road
Wilmington, NC 28412
Subject: Approved Plan Revision
Wrightsboro Baptist Church
Stormwater Project No. SW8 080807
New Hanover County
Dear Mr. Miller:
On January 11, 2010, the Wilmington Regional Office received a plan revision for Stormwater
Management Permit Number SW8 080807. The revisions include revising the distribution of
BUA:
Drainage Area Drainage Area
1 2
PYe 1988,1 rtipervl0us''Anea't ...
On-Site Buildings 25,323 0
On-Site Streets 50,743 0
On-Site Parking 20,916 0
On-Site Sidewalks 3,880 0
Other On-Site 0 7,849
Off-Site 0 0
Total 100,862 7,849
On-Site Buildings 0 15,945
On-Site Streets 0 41,637
On-Site Parking 0 19,013
On-Site Sidewalks 0 0
Off-Site 0 0
Total 0 76,595
Total, Per Drainage Area: 3.00,862 84,444
Total, Pre-1988 Impervious Area: 108,711
Total, Overall: 185,306
Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Drive Extension,Wilmington,North Carolina 28405 �TOne 1.
Phone:[phone] FAX:[phone] Customer service:1-877-623-6748 1 V orth CarOttllca
Internet:www.ncwatequality,org Naturally
J��n u a l
An Equal Oppodunity 1 Affirmative Action Employer �/!L` {14"!✓,/

SW8 080807
-January 1'5-2010
It has been determined that a formal permit modification is not required for the proposed
changes. We are forwarding you an approved copy of the revised plans for your files. Please
replace the old approved plan sheet with the new one.
Please be aware that all terms and conditions of the permit issued on September 26, 2008,
remain in full force and effect. Please also understand that the approval of this revision to
the approved plans for the subject State Stormwater Permit is done on a case-by-case
basis. Any other changes to this project must be approved through this Office prior to
construction. The issuance of this plan revision does not preclude the permittee from
complying with all other applicable statutes, rules, regulations or ordinances which may
have jurisdiction over the proposed activity, and obtaining a permit or approval prior to
construction.
If you have any questions concerning this matter, please do not hesitate to call Georgette Scott
or me at [phone].
Sinc
Kelly hnson
Environmental Engineer
GDS\KPJ: S:\WQS\STORMWATER\PERMIT\080807PR.jan09
cc: Phillip Tripp, PE, Tripp Engineering, PC
New Hanover County Building Inspections
City of Wilmington Development Services
Beth E. Wetherill, New Hanover County Engineering
Wilmington Regional Office
Central Files
Page 2 of 2

Job No. 07072
Date: 01/11/10
0
TRIPP ENGINEERING, P.C.
419 Chestnut Street, Wilmington, NC 28401
Phone: [phone] • FAX: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL
To: NCDENR
Attention: Kelly Johnsonl
Subject: Wrightsboro Baptist Church (SW8 080807)
FAX TRANSMITTAL: NUMBER OF PAGES INCLUDES COVER
I am sending you: ( X ) ATTACHED ( ) UNDER SEPARATE COVER
( X ) Prints ( ) Tracings ( ) Copy of letter ( ) Specifications ( ) Other
Copies Item No. Description
2 CO Cl C3 Site Plans
y
IAN 1 1 7010
These are transmitted as checked below:
( ) For Approval ( X ) For Your Use ( ) Sign & Return ( ) Review
Remarks: In response to Your January 4 2010 email to Phil Tripp we are providing
updated plans for your review, The impervious area has been revised in the site data table
Please contact us if you have any questions or comments. Thank you.
cc:
Signed: Larry Knoerl

Johnson, Kelly
From: Johnson, Kelly
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:55 AM
To: 'Larry Knoerl'
Subject: RE: Wrightsboro Baptist Church / SW8 080807
Attachments: 080807.pdf
OK, thanks. Please send two copies of the plans with the revised data. The draft of the letter is attached.
KJ
From: Larry Knoerl [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:50 AM
To: Johnson, Kelly
Cc: Phillip Tripp
Subject: Wrightsboro Baptist Church / SW8 080807
Kelly:
I have reviewed the SW application that was previously submitted for this project and compared it against the plans that
were submitted on 9/26/08 and 12/29/09. I also reviewed the spreadsheet that you provided in your email message.
Here is a quick summary of what I found:
1) all of the values in the SW application are 100% accurate
2) SW8 080807 is accurate
3) the values on both sets of plans (from Site Data Table) were not 100% accurate. I can only imagine that these values
were not properly updated as the design evolved.
I have attached a PDF file of the updated Site Data Table which now corresponds with the SW application.
In regards to your spread sheet that you provided in your email, the last two columns (G & H) should be identical to
the second and third columns of data (B &C).
If you agree with my findings, I would be happy to provide you with updated sets of plans which will show the revised
Site Data Table. How many would you like to receive?
LARRY KNOERL
Tripp Engineering, P.C.
Office: (910)-763-5100
Fax: [phone]
NOTICE: This electronic correspondence and all attachments may contain privileged information intended
only for the use of the addressee. Any information contained within this correspondence is provided for your
convenience. No assertion of accuracy is made by Tripp Engineering, P.C. unless physical documents are
obtained, sealed AND signed. User assumes all responsibility for use of this digital information.
ro Original Message_
m_.Phil Tngp
F _­
To: .
To: Larry Kneed
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:40 PM
1

Subject: Fw: Wrightsboro Baptist Church / SW8 080807
Larry,
Can you clarify this for Kelly?
Phil
-----Original Message -----
From: Johnson, Kelly
To: Phil Tripp
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:31 PM
Subject: Wrightsboro Baptist Church / SW8 080807
Phillip,
We received this plan revision request, and I have a question for you regarding the breakdown of the BUA between the
two drainage areas. The application on file for the 9/26/08 permit shows that DA#1 has 100,862sf BUA of pre-1988
BUA and DA#2 has 84,444sf of BUA (of which 7,849sf is pre-1988). The permit is written for 84,444sf of BUA. The
approved plans from 9/26/08 also show BUA, but it shows a total and not a breakdown. The approved plans show
100,484sf of pre-1988 BUA (which does not match the numbers above.) The plans submitted on 12/29/09 also show
100,484sf of BUA. It is unclear how 100,484sf is dispersed over the two drainage areas? Also, the permitted plans
show 158,066sf of BUA, and the 12/29/09 plans show 157,640sf of BUA. Did you intend to reserve 426sf of BUA as
future BUA?
Please let me know how 100,484sf is determined and also how you want to permit the 426sf. I have summarized this in
the attached Excel and PDF files, and will need the data shown in columns G & H to process this revision request.
Thanks,
Kelly
*** My email has changed to kellv.p.iohnsonCdncdenr.¢ov
V_IeLL'j i0� VULOVL,
Kelly Johnson
Environmental Engineer
Division of Water Quality
Stormwater Permitting
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405-3845
Office: 910.796.7345
Fax: [phone]
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be
disclosed to third parties.
2

Johnson, Kelly
From: Larry Knoerl [[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:50 AM
To: Johnson, Kelly
Cc: Phillip Tripp
Subject: Wrightsboro Baptist Church/SW8 080807
Attachments: 07072-SITE DATA TBL.pdf
Kelly:
I have reviewed the SW application that was previously submitted for this project and compared it against the plans that
were submitted on 9/26/08 and 12/29/09. I also reviewed the spreadsheet that you provided in your email message.
Here is a quick summary of what I found:
1) all of the values in the SW application are 100% accurate
2) SW8 080807 is accurate
3) the values on both sets of plans (from Site Data Table) were not 100% accurate. I can only imagine that these values
were not properly updated as the design evolved.
I have attached a PDF file of the updated Site Data Table which now corresponds with the SW application.
In regards to your spread sheet that you provided in your email, the last two columns (G & H) should be identical to
the second and third columns of data (B &Q.
If you agree with my findings, I would be happy to provide you with updated sets of plans which will show the revised
Site Data Table. How many would you like to receive?
LARRY KNOERL
Tripp Engineering, P.C.
Office: (910)-763-5100
Fax: [phone]
NOTICE: This electronic correspondence and all attachments may contain privileged information intended
only for the use of the addressee. Any information contained within this correspondence is provided for your
convenience. No assertion of accuracy is made by Tripp Engineering, P.C. unless physical documents are
obtained, sealed AND signed. User assumes all responsibility for use of this digital information.
----- Original Message,--.---,
;From: Phil Tripp ..- -.. ------- -- ,-_ _
To: Larry Knoerl
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: Fw: Wrightsboro Baptist Church / SW8 080807
Larry,
Can you clarify this for Kelly?
Phil
----- Original Message
.__-_-__
To: Phil Tripp
1

Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:31 PM
Subject: Wrightsboro Baptist Church / SW8 080807
Phillip,
We received this plan revision request, and I have a question for you regarding the breakdown of the BUA between the
two drainage areas. The application on file for the 9/26/08 permit shows that DA#1 has 100,862sf BUA of pre-1988
BUA and DA#2 has 84,444sf of BUA (of which 7,849sf is pre-1988). The permit is written for 84,444sf of BUA. The
approved plans from 9/26/08 also show BUA, but it shows a total and not a breakdown. The approved plans show
100,484sf of pre-1988 BUA (which does not match the numbers above.) The plans submitted on 12/29/09 also show
100,484sf of BUA. It is unclear how 100,484sf is dispersed over the two drainage areas? Also, the permitted plans
show 158,066sf of BUA, and the 12/29/09 plans show 157,640sf of BUA. Did you intend to reserve 426sf of BUA as
future BUA?
Please let me know how 100,484sf is determined and also how you want to permit the 426sf. I have summarized this in
the attached Excel and PDF files, and will need the data shown in columns G & H to process this revision request.
Thanks,
Kelly
*** My email has changed to [e-mail]
KeU,Wohwsow
Kelly Johnson
Environmental Engineer
Division of Water Quality
Stormwater Permitting
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405-3845
Office: 910.796.7345
Fax: [phone]
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be
disclosed to third parties.
2

SITE DATA:
OWNER: WRIGHTSBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
SITE ADDRESS: 652 CASTLE HAYNE RD.
N.H.Co. PARCEL No. R03311-002-003-000
TOTAL AREA 28.08 ACRES
DISTURBED AREA 6.34 ACRES
ZONING R-20 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT
No. OF BUILDINGS 11
BUILDING ONE 15,945 SF
PROPOSED BUILDING AREA 15,945 SF
BUILDING COVERAGE 1%
SETBACKS (REQUIRED)— FRONT 30'
REAR 25'
SIDE 15'
SETBACKS (PROPOSED)— FRONT 312'
REAR 2,100'
SIDES 180'/172'
PARKING SPACES REQUIRED:
1 SPACE PER 4 SEATS
900 f 4 225
PARKING SPACES REQUIRED: 225
PARKING SPACES PROPOSED: 234
EXISTING IMPERVIOUS AREA 108,711 S,-
PROPOSED BUILDING AREA 15,945 SF
PROPOSED PAVED AREA 41 ,637 SF
PROPOSED GRASS PARKING 19,013 S=
TOTAL IMPERVIOUS AREA 85,306 (15.14%)
LANDSCAPING AREA REQUIRED: (41 ,637*8%) 3,299 SF
LANDSCAPING AREA PROVIDED: 5,935 Sir
CAMA LAND USE CLASSIFICATION TRANSITION
TREES REQUIRED (15x5.85ACRES) 88

Johnson, Kelly
From: Johnson, Kelly
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:32 PM
To: 'Phil Tripp'
Subject: Wrightsboro Baptist Church / SW8 080807
Attachments: Wrightsboro Baptist.pdf; Wrightsboro Baptist.xlsx
Phillip,
We received this plan revision request, and I have a question for you regarding the breakdown of the BUA between the
two drainage areas. The application on file for the 9/26/08 permit shows that DA41 has 100,862sf BUA of pre-1988 BUA
and DAN2 has 84,444sf of BUA(of which 7,849sf is pre-1988). The permit is written for 84,444sf of BUA. The approved
plans from 9/26/08 also show BUA, but it shows a total and not a breakdown. The approved plans show 100,484sf of
pre-1988 BUA (which does not match the numbers above.) The plans submitted on 12/29/09 also show 100,484sf of
BUA. It is unclear how 100,484sf is dispersed over the two drainage areas? Also, the permitted plans show 158,066sf of
BUA, and the 12/29/09 plans show 157,640sf of BUA. Did you intend to reserve 426sf of BUA as future BUA?
Please let me know how 100,484sf is determined and also how you want to permit the 426sf. I have summarized this in
the attached Excel and PDF files, and will need the data shown in columns G & H to process this revision request.
Thanks,
Kelly
*** My email has changed to [e-mail]
1-e,eLLW0klK6ow
Kelly Johnson
Environmental Engineer
Division of Water Quality
Stormwater Permitting
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405-3845
Office: 910.796.7345
Fax: [phone]
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be
disclosed to third parties.
1

Wrightsboro Baptist Church SW8 080807
Application Plans Permit Plans Plan Revision
(9/; 1 (9/26/O8) ":(9/26/08) (12/29/09) (Date TBD)
Drainage Area 1 IDrainageArea2 DA#1+DA#2 DA#1+DA#2 I DA#1+DA#2 IDrainageAreal IDrainageAreaZ
Pre-1988 Impervious Area
On-Site Buildings 25,323 0 Need Need
On-Site Streets 50,743 '0 Need Need
On-Site Parking 20,916 0 Need Need
On-Site Sidewalks 3,880 0 Need Need
Other On-Site 0 7,849 Need Need
Off-Site 0 0 Need Need
Total 100,862 7,849 100,484 100,484 Need Need
Mer
.. .. m.. .. ... . ,.. ._. ..,,.
On-Site Buildings - 0 15,945 15,945 15,945 Need Need
On-Site Streets - 0. - 41,637 0 0 Need Need
On-Site Parking 0 19,013 0 0 Need Need
On-Site Sidewalks 0 0 0 0 Need " Need
Other On-Site/"Asphalt"on Plans 0 = 0 41,637 38,441 Need - Need
Other On-Site/"Concrete"on Plans 0 0 ': - 0 2,770 Need Need
Other On-Site/"Future" 0 0 0 0 Need Need
Off-Site 0 0 0 0 Need Need
Total 0 76,595 57,582 57,156 Need Need
Total: 100,862 84,444 158,066 84,444 157,640 Need Need

TRop ENGINEERING, P.C.
0 419 Chestnut Street
Wilmington, North Carolina 28401
Phone: [phone] FAX: [phone]
December 29, 2009 REUD p C Q �QR�
NCDENR 1. [T U
Division of Water Quality
127 Cardinal Drive
Wilmington, NC 28405-3845
Attn: Chris Baker
Re: Wrightsboro Baptist Church
Permit No. SW8 080807
'rE 07072
Dear Mr. Baker:
We are requesting a plan revision for the above referenced project. A portion of the
roadway has been eliminated, and several sections of sidewalk have been added to the plan.
These revisions create no change to the total impervious area or to the limits of disturbance.
Please review the enclosed plans and contact us if you have any questions,
comments or if you need additional information. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Tri p Engineering, P.C.
Phillip G. Tripp, . ..
PGT:dcb
Enc.
DEC 2 9 2009
BY:

I
P. 01 t
TRANSACTION REPORT
SEP-29-2008 MON 12:07 PM
FOR: NCDENR 910 350 2004
SEND
DATE START RECEIVER TX TIME PAGES TYPE NOTE M# DP
SEP-29 12:01 PM 97638046 5' 44" 8 FAX TX OK 290
TOTAL 5M 44S PAGES: 8
State of North Carolina
Department of Fuvironmen mnd Nat Off ur l Resources
Wilmington Reg
William G. Ross,Jr.,Secretary
Michael F. Easley, Governor FAX COVER SHEFT
c No. Pages(excl,cover):
ag .0 p Express Permitting
Date: From: Sand�m E
To:
`� � Phone q 796-7265
co,
Fax: 9l0 350-2004
Far:
r
t�PPortunity ACfirmativc Action Emp nYtr
127 C'.tudinal Drivc Cxtension,
Wilmington,NC.R405•(910)79(r7?15•An P.9�1

P. 01 It
TRANSACTION REPORT
SEP-29-2008 MON 12:00 PM K
FOR: NCDENR 910 350 2004
� >K
SEND
DATE START RECEIVER TX TIME PAGES TYPE NOTE M# DP
SEP-29 11 :59 AM 97635631 1'24" 8 FAX TX OK 289
TOTAL 1M 24S PAGES: 8
It
State of North Carolina
Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
Michael F. Easley, Governor William G. Russ, Jr.,Secretary
FAX COVER SHEET
Date: �- oZ`1t-d No. Pages(excl. cover):
Express Permitting
To: o>; From: Sandra Exum
Co: Phone: [phone]
Fax: `� l��� 3� I Fax: [phone].
Re:
Hard copy to follow
127 Cardinal Drive Extension.Wilmington,NC 28405•[phone]•An Equal Opportunity Atfirmative Action Employer