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From: Paul Carpenter <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 6:45 PM
To: Hoy, Amie
Cc: Burkhard, Michael
Subject: Re: [External] Re: DWR 20231692 Carpenter Landscaping Project
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Hi Amie,
I wanted to follow up to see if you were able to look into what I sent you a couple weeks ago? Please
let me know if you have questions.
Thank you
Paul Carpenter
On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 10:23:14 AM EDT, Hoy, Amie <[e-mail]> wrote:
Good morning,
I have received your email. I have not had the chance to re -review your project with the newest information. I
am hoping to get the chance to look over it by the end of this week.
Best,
Amie Hoy
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
[e-mail]
DWR website: https://www.deg.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources
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Good morning, Arnie and Happy Mother's Day. Just wanted to check in to make sure you received the last email I sent
late April. Please let me know if you have any questions or anything else I need to be working on.
Thank you
Paul Carpenter
On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 08:52:02 AM EDT, Paul Carpenter <hvymetal73a-vahoo.com> wrote:
Good morning Arnie,
Thank you for reaching back out to me. I have been traveling quite a bit for work lately but My wife, Angie, and I want to
get this resolved ASAP.
I am copying Michael Burkhard on the response because he has physically been to our house and laid eyes on the project
himself. Maybe you two can discuss because you and Michael speak the same language when it comes to this kind of
issue.

I am trying my best to provide you exactly what you need.
I have attached two drawings of the revised project and the survey. I have made some markups on each, please take a
look at those. Notice on the survey they have drawn out the 50' and 30' buffer lines and each line on that survey
represents 1' to give you an idea of the elevations at each buffer with the patio drawn in there. Again, Michael has seen
my backyard and he can advise you on the topography of what we are dealing with.
Total square footage of the patio fireplace is 725 sq feet which I listed below. 95 sq feet of this resides inside
the 30' buffer line. The entire patio is inside the 50' so that would equate to the additional 630 sq feet. The
square footage of the landing area to the patio is included in this 630 sq foot located outside the 30'. The
stepping stones are 3'x1.5' which equals 4.5 sq feet each. There will be approximately 10 of these in the 30'
zone leading down to the dock from the patio. This is approximately 45 sq feet total. Note, we are not stacking
them, and they will have some spacing (reference plan).
As I noted, the photos I sent are not my project nor will my steps be laid out like that. We plan to leave spacing
between each stepping stone to allow for permeability, which we discussed with Michael Burkhard when he
was out the last time. He said that would work. The photo only represents the type of stepping stone/material
make-up we will be using.
Note on the revised plan, the stone drainage swell will stop at the 50' buffer even though it is not to exact scale
on the drawing.
There is no physical survey of the repair area but the septic system was permitted and signed off on by Catawba County
when the house was built in 2021. We did not build the house, my late mother-in-law did.
I hope and pray this answers your requests. PLEASE reach out to Michael Burkhard for any additional clarity. He has
seen it and knows what we are dealing with. He also met with me and our Contractor.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me and maybe it will be better to discuss via phone .
Arnie, thank you again for working through this with us.
Best Regards,
Paul Carpenter

704-575-1080
On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 09:46:58 PM EDT, Hoy, Arnie <amie.hoya-deg.nc.gov> wrote:
Good evening,
I have not received a response to my April 3, 2024 email requesting the correct information. Can you provide
me any information of the status of this request.
Best,
Annie Hoy
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
amie.hoy(o-)_deq.nc.gov
DWR website: https://www.deg.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources
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From: Hoy, Annie
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 11:21 AM
To: Paul Carpenter <hvymetal73(c-)-yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Re: DWR 20231692 Carpenter Landscaping Project

Mr. Carpenter,
Yes this layout of these steps would not be considered permeable. I need you to submit a diagram or photo
showing how you plan to lay these stones to allow for permeability. I'm not sure who's how this is in the photo
but they are not in compliance from what I can see.
The first thing I had requested was for your surveyor to show Zone 1 30' and Zone 2 20'. Again, this is a total
of 50' from the 760' contour line. However, you need to show them both on your plan. I only see the 50' buffer,
I need to know where the first 30' (Zone 1) is. I also need the measurement of the patio that are in each zone.
Because you have not provided the areas of the different Zones, I also don't know if your repair area is in
Zone 1.
Please see my original email with the questions below.
Your project will remain ON HOLD until I have the correct information.
Best,
Arnie Hoy
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
amie.hoy(a-)_deg.nc.gov
DWR website: https://www.deg.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources

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Arnie,
I hope you have been doing well. It took me a little over a month to get a surveyor to come out the second time then time
to put together the elevations on a file. I wish Michael Burkhart (Dept of Environmental Quality) who visited the site would
have told me to gather these elevations from the surveyor and it would have saved time and money for another visit from
the survey company.
I have included the septic permit showing the septic repair area, unfortunately the plan doesn't show elevations or the
actual distance from our house. You will also see the revised plan with the square footage listed for the patio and the
walkway steps. We were told by Michael Burkhart we had to space out the stone steps so it would be permeable, so that
is the plan. We also plan to stop the stone swale at the 50' buffer mark and allow to dissipate into native grasses.
The photos attached are examples of what the 3'x1.5' natural stone steps will look like, but this is not our layout
obviously.
The plan is to use mulch to stabilize the area until native vegetation takes root. We were advised to do this by Michael
Burkhart with DEQ.
Patio / fireplace Sq Footage = 725 sq feet

Stone Steps are 4.5 sq ft each x 18 = 81 sq feet
Please note all dock and sitting area by the water are pre-existing from the mid-1990s and no change there.
As far as an explanation as to why they couldn't locate the patio closer to the house is due to the septic repair
area. Unfortunately, at this point of the build process the patio is almost complete and would not really be feasible to alter
the design/construction. This is where our contractor should have known in my opinion but there again, we hired them to
do the job. It does look very nice what they did.
Please let me know at your earliest convenience if you need any additional information and I will do my best to expedite
it. Please call to discuss if need be.
I hope and pray this is sufficient and we can continue with finishing this project.
Thank you
Paul Carpenter
704-575-1080
On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 08:36:26 PM EST, Hoy, Arnie <amie.hoya-deg.nc.gov> wrote:
Good evening,
After reviewing your application for an exception (minor variance) I need additional information.
1. Legible map with more details. You will need to provide the survey of the land including the 760' contour, Zone 1
(30') and Zone 2 ( 50') buffers. Please provide these on your map that includes the fireplace/patio and the
restoration plan.
2. Please provide all measurements of your patio (sqft in Zone 1, sqft in Zone 2, total sqft). Please also include the
sqft of the steps/walkway that is shown on your drawing. Are those preexisting and approved or are you asking to
have those approved as well? What material are they made from?

3. 1 will need the sqft of the dock if any is located above the 760'.
4. Please show on your map where the septic field is and dimensions.
5. Explanation of why the patio/fireplace could not be put in the "lawn area" or the area closer to the house that
would be outside of Zone 1 and possibly Zone 2. According to the map you provided there seems to be a large
area where a patio could be placed that would not impact the buffer or would minimally impact the buffer.
6. Explanation of why the included plan cannot be practically accomplished, reduced, relocated, or reconfigured to
avoid or better minimize disturbance to the riparian buffer, preserve aquatic life and habitat, and protect water
quality.
7. Plans for any best management practices proposed to be used to control the impacts associated with the activity.
8. Sgft of the stone swell that is in the riparian buffer. Does this stone swell already exist or are you requested this in
your application? Please review the Catawba River Basin Buffer 15A NCAC 02B .0614 regarding stormwater
runoff through the riparian buffer.

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(8) STORMWATER RUNOFF THROUGH THE RIPARIAN BUFFER. Stormwater runoff into the
riparian buffer shall meet dispersed flow as defined in 15A NCAC 02H .I002 except as otherwise
described in this Item. Drainage conveyances include drainage ditches, roadside ditches, and
stormwater conveyances. The following mormwater conveyances through the riparian buffer are
either deemed allowable or allowable upon authorisation, as defined in Sub -Item (9)(a) of this
Rule, provided that they do not erode through the riparian buffer and do not cause erosion to the
receiving waterbody. Stormwater conveyances through the riparian buffer that are not listed below
shall be allowable with exception as defined in Sub -Item (9)(a)(v) of this Rule;
(a) The following are deemed allowable as defined in Sub -Item (9)(a)(i) of this Rule-
(i) New drainage conveyances from a Primary SCM, as defined in 15A NCAC 02H
.1002, when the Primary SCM is designed to treat the drainage area to the
conveyance and that comply with a stormwater management plan reviewed and
approved under a state stormwater program or a state -approved local
government stormwater program; and
(ii) New stormwater flow to existing drainage conveyances provided that the
addition of new flow dues not result in the need to alter the conveyance.
(b) The following are allowable upon authorization as defined in Sub -Item (9)(aXii) of this
Rule;
(i) New drainage conveyances from a Primary SCM as defined in 15A NCAC 02H
.IOQ2 when the Primary SCM is provided to treat the drainage area to the
conveyance but are not required to be approved under a state stormwater
program or a state -approved local government stormwater program;
New drainage conveyances when the flow rate of the conveyance is less than 0.5
cubic feet per second during the peak flow from the 0.75 inch per hour storm;
New storrnwater runoff~ that has been treated through a level spreader -filter strip
that complies with 15A NCAC 02H .1059;
Realignment of existing roadside drainage conveyances applicable to publicly
funded and maintained linear transportation facilities when retaining or
improving the design dimensions provided that no additional travel lanes are
added and the minimum required roadway typical section is used based on
traffic and safety considerations;
Realignment of existing drainage conveyances retaining or improving the design
dimensions provided that the size of the drainage area and the percent built -upon
area within the drainage area remain the saute;
New or altered drainage conveyances applicable to publicly funded and
maintained linear transportation facilities provided that SCMs, or B Ps from
the N-'DOT Storinwater Best Management Practices Toolbox, are employed;
New drainage conveyances applicable to publicly funded and maintained linear
transportation facilities that do not provide a stormwater management facility
due to topography constraints provided other measures are employed to protect
downstream water quality to the maximum extent practical; and
New drainage conveyances where the drainage area to the conveyance has no
new built -upon area as defined in 15A NCAC 02H .1002 and the conveyance is
necessary for bypass of existing drainage only.
Your project will be considered ON HOLD until we have the proper information to continue our review. If you have any
questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Best,
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Arnie Hoy
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
Office: 704-235-2200 1 Cell: 984-789-0173
DWR website: https://www.deg.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources
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