NCG210457_Emails RE Name Change and Renewal Needed_20240506

Georgoulias, Bethany
From: Georgoulias, Bethany
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 10:50 AM
To: Phillip Cobbs
Cc: Sanford, Joyce; Chad Jordan; [e-mail]; Sanderford, Austin
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
Attachments: [External] NPDES Stormwater Renewal COC NCG210457 Issued; Certificate of
Coverage.pdf
Good morning, Philip,
Please see attached. I have made notes in our system about this renewal action and will include this
correspondence in the permit file records in our repository.
To summarize the situation,the General Permit this site is under was renewed earlier than the July 2023 expiration
last year(it was renewed in June), but this COC was not at the time because of owed fees.We sent letters about
that in late June 2023,and fees were paid in July 2023.When you all checked the status after that,you noted the
active status because the permit COC still had the original expiration date of the end of July(it had not yet passed
that expiration mark). We overlooked renewing this COC under the new General Permit term, and we have
corrected that today. We waited until the Name/Ownership change request had been processed by our staff so
that information in the system was up to date.
In 24-48-hours, please check the Permit Summary Report for this permit to confirm that status and new
Owner/Name information. Just let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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Permit: h, �CG210457 Version: 3.0 Status: .Active
Mandator} Event Type Event date Due date Comment Last Updated.. Update E
❑✓ .Application received 0510612024 Bethany.Geor... 051061202-
Application reviewed 0510612024 Permittee paid owed fees after... Bethany.Geor... 051061202.
❑✓ Permit issued 0510612024 Owed fees were paid after mas... Bethany.Geor... 051061202.
❑ Permit Drafting Initiated Bethany.Geor... 051061202-
❑ R4 staff report requested Bethany.Geor... 051061202
❑ R4 staff report received Bethany.Geor... 051061202
❑ IRenewaldue Bethany.Geor... 051061202.
❑ JPermitAnnual Fee 0110112025 Bethany.Geor... 051061202-
Maintain Permit Event
Permit: NCG210457 Version: 3.0 Status:
Eve ntType: Application reviewed Event Date: �5MW2024
Responsible Person: Bethany.Georgoulias Due Date:
Comment: 1permittee paid owed fees after batch renewal in June 2023, butthe COC was not renewed.
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Best regards,
Bethany Georgoulias(she/her)
Environmental Engineer,Stormwater Program
DEMLR Laserfiche Administrator
Division of Energy,Mineral,and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N.Salisbury Street,Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center,Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
From: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 5:22 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Cc: Sanford,Joyce<[e-mail]>; Chad Jordan <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
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Bethany,
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We sincerely appreciate the assistance. We will use the COC Renewal request but are concerned that it may appear
that we did not have coverage since last July even though the late fees were paid by July 10, 2023 and we believed the
facility permit was being processed for renewal. As you stated, we agree that the confusion most likely involved the very
quick process from Public Notice (April 17 to May 17, 2023) and Final Issuance June 1, 2023 with an effective date of
June 30, 2023 which did not coincide with the previous permit's expiration of July 31, 2023. Combine this with the fact
that notices for this location were being sent to a corporate office rather than the location and it is easy to understand
the overall confusion.The request for Name/Ownership request this past March was due to our realization that the
invoices and notices were not being sent to the location thus leading to another instance of late fee submittals.
We would ask that annotations of this discussion be placed in your in your files and we will place copies in our files for
future reference. We would also ask that after issuance of the Renewal COC that the Name/Ownership request also be
processed so as to avoid future incidents where notices and invoices are not sent to the location.Thanks again for your
quick response and assistance and would ask that should you have questions prior to closure of this issue to please
contact me.
Sincerely,
I® timid f " Phillip Cobbs MSEM
Director, Environmental Compliance
Firs ource 6031 Connection Drive,Suite 400
Irving,TX 75039
„ [e-mail]
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From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 3:42 PM
To: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Cc: Sanford,Joyce<[e-mail]>; Chad Jordan <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
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Hello,
The confusion about active status here was due to the permit COC expiration in the last cycle not occurring until
7/31/2023. At the time you ran these reports,the permit was still active. Please see the info in my earlier email
attached. If the fee was paid in mid-July, most likely it was not renewed was because we'd set up the renewals for
the batch of permits without owed fees, and this one did not make it in the batch in time. We apologize for the
oversight. When no one contacted us for a COC after the general permit was renewed,we did not realize the COC
was omitted from that batch. Please seethe form link in the previous email to request one. Thankyou!
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Permit: NOG210457 Version'. .0 Status: Expired
PermitTxpe: Timber Products Stormwater Discharge COC
Permit Classification: COC Primary Related Permit: NOG1000C
Program Category: NPDEO SAY Admin Region: Raleigh
Facility+: Middlesex Truss Details... County: Nash
Owner: Bmc East LLO Details... Project Type: Renewal
-D3tes—
Issued: 08J01i2018 Orig ISSLIed: 01125�2018 ❑ EPA I'Aajor Permit
❑ Has Subsurface Drains
Effective: 08)01)2018 Statutory: 07'27'2018
0 New Farm 0 Existing Farm
Expire: 07131)2023 Inactive:
❑ Innovative Ava
SOC: Details... ❑ Rainbreaker Device
❑ OIC Present
Last Updated By: bimsprod.cron Last Updated On:
Best regards,
Bethany Georgoulias(she/her)
Environmental Engineer,Stormwater Program
DEMLR Laserfiche Administrator
Division of Energy,Mineral,and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N.Salisbury Street,Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center,Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http//deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
From: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 3:01 PM
To: [e-mail]
Cc: Sanford,Joyce<[e-mail]>; Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>; Chad Jordan
<[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
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This is incorrect. We received notice that we had outstanding fees during renewal of the previous permit and those
outstanding fees were paid July 10, 2023. We also pulled a report from your database July 10, 2023 which shows the
permit as being "Active" along with the outstanding fees. Another report was pulled from your database July 18, 2023
showing the fees were paid and that the permit was still listed as "Active". It is our assertion that we fulfilled the
requirements for renewal and request that the permit be placed back into Active status. Attached are copies of these
documents.
The Owner Affiliation change was needed to rectify a change since the fee requests were being submitted to an office
that is no longer manned at levels prior to January 2021 and avoid the issues with late fees being reported but not
received.Again, we request that this Affiliation Change be processed in addition to our previous request. Contact me
should you have any questions.
Sincerely,
► Odes, Phillip E.Cobbs MSEM
} Director, Environmental Compliance
Firs source 6031 Connection Drive,Suite 400
Irving,TX 75039
[e-mail]
C:615.866.8659 1 BLDR.com
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communication in error,please immediately notify me by return electronic mail,telephone,facsimile or U.S.Mail.
Thank you.
From: [e-mail]<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 12:27 PM
To: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
Subject: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
You don't often get email from [e-mail] why this is important
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Unfortunately we cannot process the Permit Name/Ownership Change Request submitted
on 3/15/2024 any further. A Stormwater Program staff member will be in touch with more information.
Comments during review: permit has expired
Please contact Joyce Sanford at joyce.sanfordCcOdeq.nc.gov with any questions.
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Georgoulias, Bethany
From: Phillip Cobbs <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 3:39 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request
Attachments: NPDES-Name-Owner-Change-NCG210457 042624 signed Online Submittal
Receipt.pdf, NPDES-Name-Owner-Change-NCG210457 031524 signed.pdf
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Bethany,
I have resubmitted through the online portal with supporting documentation of the submittal for your review.The
hard copy of the signed form was mailed to your department and shows it was received March 26, 2024.The name
change is due to a merger of two companies (BMC and Builders FirstSource) and I can supply the public announcement
of that merger if needed.Thanks gain for the help.
Sincerely,
I, ■ � Phillip E. Cobbs MSEM
Director,Environmental Compliance
WA First source 6031 Connection Drive,Suite 400
Irving,TX 75039
[e-mail]
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Thank you.
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 10:03 AM
To: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request
This email originated from outside of the organization.
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Hi, Phillip,
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Joyce means the Ownership change submittal—please submit that for us again if you would (I can't restart it since
it was rejected the first time).
I do have the renewal COC request that I will hold until we sort out the Owner change. Let me know if you have any
questions.
Best regards,
Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer, Stormwater Program
DEMLR Laserfiche Administrator
Division of Energy, Mineral,and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
From: Sanford,Joyce<[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 10:00 AM
To: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Cc: Sanderford, Austin <[e-mail]>; Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request
Good morning,
Resubmit the form electronically and we will get it processed.
Thanks
Joyce
From: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 5:22 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Cc: Sanford,Joyce<[e-mail]>; Chad Jordan <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
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button located on your Outlook menu bar on the Home tab.
Bethany,
We sincerely appreciate the assistance. We will use the COC Renewal request but are concerned that it may appear
that we did not have coverage since last July even though the late fees were paid by July 10, 2023 and we believed the
facility permit was being processed for renewal. As you stated, we agree that the confusion most likely involved the very
quick process from Public Notice (April 17 to May 17, 2023) and Final Issuance June 1, 2023 with an effective date of
June 30, 2023 which did not coincide with the previous permit's expiration of July 31, 2023. Combine this with the fact
that notices for this location were being sent to a corporate office rather than the location and it is easy to understand
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the overall confusion.The request for Name/Ownership request this past March was due to our realization that the
invoices and notices were not being sent to the location thus leading to another instance of late fee submittals.
We would ask that annotations of this discussion be placed in your in your files and we will place copies in our files for
future reference. We would also ask that after issuance of the Renewal COC that the Name/Ownership request also be
processed so as to avoid future incidents where notices and invoices are not sent to the location.Thanks again for your
quick response and assistance and would ask that should you have questions prior to closure of this issue to please
contact me.
Sincerely,
® � � � Phillip E.Cobbs MSEM
■ Director,Environmental Compliance
L.j Firsts "3urce 6031 Connection Drive,Suite 400
Irving,TX 75039
[e-mail]
C:615.866.8659 1 BLDR.com
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or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,you are hereby notified that
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communication in error,please immediately notify me by return electronic mail,telephone,facsimile or U.S.Mail.
Thank you.
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 3:42 PM
To: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Cc: Sanford,Joyce<[e-mail]>; Chad Jordan <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
This email originated from outside of the organization.
EXTERNAL MESSAGE Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe._4J
Hello,
The confusion about active status here was due to the permit COC expiration in the last cycle not occurring until
7/31/2023. At the time you ran these reports,the permit was still active. Please see the info in my earlier email
attached. If the fee was paid in mid-July, most likely it was not renewed was because we'd set up the renewals for
the batch of permits without owed fees, and this one did not make it in the batch in time. We apologize for the
oversight. When no one contacted us for a COC after the general permit was renewed,we did not realize the COC
was omitted from that batch. Please seethe form link in the previous email to request one. Thankyou!
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Permit: NCG210457 "Version'. 2.0 ] Status: Expired
PermitTxpe: Timber Products Stormwater Discharge COC
Permit Classification: COC Primary Related Permit: NOG1000C
Program Category: NPDES SW Admin Region: Raleigh
Facility: Middlesex Truss Details... County: Nash
Owner: Bmc East LLC Details... Project Type: Renewal
—Dates—
Issued: 08J0V2018 Orig Issued: 01125�2018
❑ EPA IJlajor Permit
❑ Has Subsurface Drains
Effective: 0W0112010 Statutory: 07'27'2018
0 New Farm 0 Existing Farm
Expire: 07131)2023 Inactive:
❑ Innovative .Ava
SOC: Details... ❑ Rainbreaker Device
❑ OIC Present
Last Updated By: bimsprod.cron Last Updated On:
Best regards,
Bethany Georgoulias(she/her)
Environmental Engineer,Stormwater Program
DEMLR Laserfiche Administrator
Division of Energy,Mineral,and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N.Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http//deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
From: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 3:01 PM
To: [e-mail]
Cc: Sanford,Joyce<][e-mail]>; Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>; Chad Jordan
<[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: [External] RE: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
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This is incorrect. We received notice that we had outstanding fees during renewal of the previous permit and those
outstanding fees were paid July 10, 2023. We also pulled a report from your database July 10, 2023 which shows the
permit as being "Active" along with the outstanding fees. Another report was pulled from your database July 18, 2023
showing the fees were paid and that the permit was still listed as "Active". It is our assertion that we fulfilled the
requirements for renewal and request that the permit be placed back into Active status. Attached are copies of these
documents.
The Owner Affiliation change was needed to rectify a change since the fee requests were being submitted to an office
that is no longer manned at levels prior to January 2021 and avoid the issues with late fees being reported but not
received.Again, we request that this Affiliation Change be processed in addition to our previous request. Contact me
should you have any questions.
Sincerely,
N
��, �� � � Phillip E.Cobbs MSEM
Director,Environmental Compliance
Frsouce 6031 Connection Drive,Suite 400
Irving,TX 75039
ri [e-mail]
C:615.866.8659 I BLDR.com
OUTPERFORM TI I ' I ' TOMORROW.
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for the use of the individual or entity named above.If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,you are hereby notified that
any dissemination,distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited.If you receive this
communication in error,please immediately notify me by return electronic mail,telephone,facsimile or U.S.Mail.
Thank you.
From: [e-mail]<[e-mail]>
Sent:Thursday, April 25, 2024 12:27 PM
To: Phillip Cobbs<[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
Subject: Name/Ownership Change Request for NCG210457
You don't often get email from [e-mail] why this is important
F EXTERNAL MESSAGE This email originated from outside of the organization.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Unfortunately we cannot process the Permit Name/Ownership Change Request submitted
on 3/15/2024 any further. A Stormwater Program staff member will be in touch with more information.
Comments during review: permit has expired
Please contact Joyce Sanford at ioyce.sanford(a-)deq.nc.govwith any questions.
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