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Home My WebLink About20151281 Ver 1_More Info Received_20160111Fox, Tim From: -- Brown, David W SAW <David.W.Brown@u5aceArmy.mil> _ Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 2:41 PM To: tealleneng@comporium.net Cc: Leslie, Andrea J; Fox, Tim Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Request for Additional Information (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Terry, Based upon the information and photos submitted the proposed work would not be exempt due to the failed seawall, noted in the photos, would not be considered a.'currently existing serviceable structure.' However, the proposed work does meet the terms & conditions of NWP 3. Therefore, please confirm you want this proposed work verified under NWP 3 and not NWP 13 as originally submitted & the impacts will be for 2001inear feet. Thanks, David David Brown, PG Regulatory Specialist/Geologist 828-271-7980, ext. 232 david.w.brown@usace.army.mil USACE Wilmington District - Asheville Regulatory Field Office 151 Patton Avenue, Room 208 Asheville, NC 28801-5006 The Wilmington District is committed to providingthe highest level of support to the public. To help us ensure we continue to do so, please complete the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at http://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm_apex/f?p=136:4:0 ---Original Message ----- From: tealleneng@comporium.net [mailto:tealleneng@comporium.net] Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 6:19 PM To: Brown, David W SAW Cc: 'Leslie, Andrea J'; tim.fox@ncdenr.gov Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Request for Additional Information (UNCLASSIFIED) Hello David: Since our initial submission of the PCN for the Terrell property; the lake level has been lowered about 5 -ft. This allows for an unobstructed view of the shoreline. There is evidence of an old seawall a long the entire shoreline of the Terrell property. I have attached two (2) photos showing the old rock structure along the entire shoreline. Considering this new information (i.e., evidence of an existing rock seawall along the entire shoreline), we propose to consider this project as "exempt for the maintenance or replacement of an existing serviceable structure", and therefore no permit required. Please let me know if you agree with this determination. The proposed work would be to construct a new boulder seawall in the same location and alignment as the old rock seawall. The new boulder seawall will be constructed in accordance with the attached detail sheets C-1, C-2, and C-3. Please let me know your opinion on this option. Please call or email if you have any questions Thank you. Terry Allen, PE, MSE T.E. ALLEN ENGINEERING, PC P.O. Box 103 Rosman, NC 28772 828-877-4883 828-553-3004 Cell Street Address: T.E. ALLEN ENGINEERING, PC 13481 Rosman Hwy., Suite 4 Lake Toxaway, NC 28747 -----Original Message ----- From: Brown, David W SAW[mailto:David.W.Brown@usace.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:13 AM To: tealleneng@comporium.net Cc: Leslie, Andrea J Subject: Request for Additional Information (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE T.E. Allen Engineering, P.C. Rosman, NC, 28772 Terry Allen, The Corps has received (December 9, 2015) and reviewed your submitted Pre -Construction Notification (PCN) .application and supporting documents for the proposed shoreline stabilization project at the Lee and Suzie Terrell residence (PIN 8522-13-9877-000), 451 S. East Shore Drive in Lake Toxaway, Transylvania County, North Carolina. Based on our review and comments submitted by NC Wildlife Resources Commission, the Corps is requesting the following additional information in order for us to consider the application to be complete: 1. Demonstrate why 150 linear feet of new shoreline stabilization is being proposed when the shoreline at this property appears stable and does not appear to be significantly eroding. Is shoreline stabilization needed along this entire 150 linear foot reach? z As proposed, the work activities do not met the criteria and conditions of Nationwide Permit 13 (NWP 13), Bank Stabilization. Please note in order fort he Corps to verify the use of NWP 13, forth is project, the applicant must meet these criteria and conditions. One of the criteria the activity must meet is no material is placed in excess of the minimum needed for erosion protection. - Once the Corps receives the additional information we can continue to process your application. If you have any question please contact me. Sincerely, David Brown, PG Regulatory Specialist/Geologist 828-271-7980, ext. 232 david.w.brown@usace.army.mil USACE Wilmington District-Asheville Regulatory Field Office 151 Patton Avenue, Room 208 Asheville, NC 28801-5006 The Wilmington District is committed to providing the highest level of support to the public. To help us ensure we continue to do so, please complete the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at Blockedhttp://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm_apex/f?p=136:4:0 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE 3 Fox, Tim From: _ teallenonq@comporium.het-- - - --- - Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 3:20 PM To: 'Brown, David W SAW' - Cc: Leslie, Andrea J; Fox, Tim Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Request for Additional Information (UNCLASSIFIED) David This is to confirm that the proposed work for the Terrell Seawall Project is requested under NWP 3 with impacts of 200 linear feet. By pen and Ink, please change Section A, Block lb on the PCN Form from NWP 13 to NWP 3. Thank you for your assista nce. Please call or email if you require any additional information. Terry Allen, PE, MSE T.E. ALLEN ENGINEERING, PC P.O. Box 103 Rosman, NC 28772 828-877-4883 828-553-3004 Cell Street Address: T.E. ALLEN ENGINEERING, PC 13481 Rosman Hwy., Suite 4 Lake Toxaway, NC 28747 -----Original Message ----- From: Brown, David W SAW(mailto:David.W.Brown@usace.army.mill Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 2:41 PM To: tealleneng@comporium.net Cc: 'Leslie, Andrea J'; tim.fox@ncdenr.gov Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Request for Additional Information (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Terry, Based upon the information and photos submitted the proposed work would not be exempt due tothe failed seawall, noted in the photos, would not be considered a'currently existing serviceable structure.' However, the proposed work does meet the terms& conditions of NWP 3. Therefore, please confirm you want this proposed work verified under NWP 3 and not NWP 13 as originally submitted & the impacts will be for 200 linear feet. Thanks, David David Brown, PG - - - - Regulatory Specialist/Geologist 828-271-7980, ext. 232 -- - david.w.brown@usace.army.mil -. USACE Wilmington District -Asheville Regulatory Field Office 151 Patton Avenue, Room 208 Asheville, NC 28801-5006 The Wilmington District is committed to providing the highest level of support to the public. To help us ensure we continue to do so, please complete the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at http://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm_apex/f?p=136:4:0 -----Original Message ----- From: tealleneng@comporium.net [mailto:tealleneng@comporium.net] Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 6:19 PM To; Brown, David W SAW Cc: 'Leslie, Andrea 1; tim.fox@ncdenr.gov Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Request for Additional Information (UNCLASSIFIED) Hello David Since our initial submission of the PCN for the Terrell property, the lake level has been lowered about 5 -ft. This allows for an unobstructed view of the shoreline. There is evidence of an old seawall along the entire shoreline of the Terrell property. I have attached two (2) photos showing the old rock structure along the entire shoreline. Considering this new information (i.e., evidence of an existing rock seawall along the entire shoreline), we propose to consider this project as "exempt for the maintenance or replacement of an existing serviceable structure", and therefore no permit required. Please let me know if you agree with this determination. The proposed work would be to construct a new boulder seawall in the same location and alignment as the old rock seawall. The new boulder seawall will be constructed in accordance with the attached detail sheets C-1, C-2, and C-3. Please let me know your opinion on this option Please call or email if you have any questions. Thank you. Terry Allen, PE, MSE T.E. ALLEN ENGINEERING, PC P.O. Box 103 Rosman, NC 28772 828-877-4883 828-553-3004 Cell Street Address: T.E. ALLEN ENGINEERING; PC 13481 Rosman Hwy., Suite 4 Lake Toxaway, NC 28747 -----Original Message ----- From: Brown, David W SAW fmailto:David.W.Brown@usace.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:13 AM To: tea lleneng@comporium.net Cc: Leslie, Andrea 1 Subject: Request for Additional Information (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE T.E. Allen Engineering, P.C. Rosman, NC, 28772 Terry Allen, The Corps has received (December 9, 2015) and reviewed your submitted Pre -Construction Notification (PCN) application and supporting documents for the proposed shoreline stabilization project atthe Lee and Suzie Terrell residence (PIN 8522-13-9877-000), 451 S. East Shore Drive in Lake Toxaway, Transylvania County, North Carolina. Based on our review and comments submitted by NC Wildlife Resources Commission, the Corps is requestingthe following additional information in order for us to consider the application to be complete: 1. Demonstrate why 1501inearfeet of new shoreline stabilization is being proposed when the shoreline at this property appears stable and does not appear to be significantly eroding. Is shoreline stabilization needed along this entire 150 linear foot reach? As proposed, the work activities do not met the criteria and conditions of Nationwide Permit 13 (NWP 13), Bank Stabilization. Please note in order for the Corps to verify the use of NWP 13, for this project, the applicant must meet these criteria and conditions. One of the criteria the activity must meet is no material is placed in excess of the minimum needed for erosion protection. Once the Corps receives the additional information we can continue to process your application. If you have any question please contact me. Sincerely, - David Brown, PG Regulatory Specialist/Geologist 828-271-7980, ext: 232 _ - — david.w.brown@usace.army.mil - USACE Wilmington District -Asheville Regulatory Field Office _- 151 Patton Avenue, Room 208 Asheville, NC 28801-5006 The Wilmington District is committed to providing the highest level of support to the public. To help us ensure we continue to do so, please complete the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at - Blockedhttp://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm apex/f7p=136:4:0 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE 4