RE_ _External_ Re_ 20231637 Sennebogen Trail - Lincoln - 401 Request for Additional Information

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From: Mcdaniel, Chonticha
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To: Jake Modestow; Wooten, Samantha; Jennifer Robertson
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Hi Jake,
Thankyou for providingthe additional information for this project. However, we are still missing some items (1 and
4, highlighted in red) from my original request:
1) Please submit complete stormwater supplement EZ a4 forms. The latest versions of the forms can
be downloaded from the Stormwater Design Manual page. Note that the supplement EZ form needs to be
signed, sealed, and dated by the designer (i.e. engineer) and the e&mforrn must be signed and notarized.
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4) Please submit copy of any applicable soils report with the associated Seasonal High Water Table (SHWT)
elevations (please identify elevations in addition to depths) as well as a map of the boring locations with
the existing elevations and boring logs. This is to ensure that the required minimum 2-ft separation
between the bottom of the sand filter and the SHWT can be met. In addition, please add the SHWT
elevation to plan sheet C-8.1. Note that the provided geological report does not contain this information.
Chonticha McDaniel (she/her/hers)
401 Stormwater Engineer, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
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From: Mcdaniel, Chonticha
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:18 PM
To: Jake Modestow <jmodestow@ces-group. net>; Wooten, Samantha <[e-mail]>; Jennifer
Robertson <[e-mail]>
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CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Pitner, Andrew <[e-mail]>; Sean Coldren
<scoldren@ces-group. net>; Sam Kleto <[e-mail]>
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Will do. Thank you, Jake!
Chonticha McDaniel (she/her/hers)
401 Stormwater Engineer, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
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Jennifer Robertson <[e-mail]>
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Chonticha- Please see below updated submission package and responses to your latest requested items. Let me
know if you have any questions on this or have any issues accessing the package in the LINK.
7-1 2024.04.11 DEQ Submission
Jake Modestow, PE
CES Group Engineers, LLP
704. 317.21021 413-531-8324

From: Mcdaniel, Chonticha <[e-mail]>
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Robertson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE: [External] Re: 20231637 Sennebogen Trail - Lincoln - 401 Request for Additional Information
Jake,
Please see my comments below regarding the SMP for the subject project. These required additional information
may be submitted directly to me via email. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions.
1) Please submit complete stormwater supplement EZ and O&M forms. The latest versions of the forms can
be downloaded from the Stormwater Design Manual page. Note that the supplement EZ form needs to be
signed, sealed, and dated by the designer (i.e. engineer) and the O&M form must be signed and notarized. —
Attached signed and sealed EZ and O+M forms have been included in this package.
2) Stormwater report needs to be signed, sealed, and dated by the engineer.- The report has been signed and
sealed
3) Drawing Plans also need to be signed, sealed, and dated by the engineer. The Drawings been signed and
sealed
4) Please submit copy of any applicable soils report with the associated SHWT elevations (please identify
elevations in addition to depths) as well as a map of the boring locations with the existing elevations and
boring logs. This is to ensure that the required minimum 2-ft separation between the bottom of the sand
filter and the SHWT can be met. In addition, please add the SHWT elevation to plan sheet C-8.1.- A copy of
the latest Geotech report has been included within the package. It should be noted that the final grade of
the majority of the basin will be lifted from existing conditions.
Jennifer, the 401 application review is on hold until we receive these items requested above. Samantha cannot
issue the 401 WQC without my final review comment and recommendation on site specific stormwater conditions
(which will be added to the certification). I hope this helps answer your question.
Thank you,
Chonticha McDaniel (she/her/hers)
401 Stormwater Engineer, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
[e-mail]

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From: Mcdaniel, Chonticha
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 9:55 AM
To: Jake Modestow <jodestow@ces-group. net>; Wooten, Samantha <[e-mail]>; Jennifer
Robertson <[e-mail]>
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CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Pitner, Andrew <[e-mail]>; Sean Coldren
<scoldren@ces-group. net>; Sam Kleto <[e-mail]>
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Received. Thank you, Jake!
We'll let you know if we have any questions.
Chonticha McDaniel (she/her/hers)
401 Stormwater Engineer, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
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From: Jake Modestow <[e-mail]>
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Jennifer Robertson <[e-mail]>
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Please see below SMP submission package in the LINK. Take a look through and let us know if you have any
questions.
7-1 2024.03.08 DEQ Submission
Jake Modestow, PE
CES Group Engineers, LLP
D: 704. 317.21021 413-531-8324
From: Mcdaniel, Chonticha <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 4:44 PM
To: Wooten, Samantha <[e-mail]>; Jennifer Robertson <[e-mail]>
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CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Pitner, Andrew <[e-mail]>; Jake Modestow
<imodestow@ces-group. net>; Sean Coldren <scoldren@ces-group. net>; Sam Kleto <[e-mail]>
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Hi Samantha,
I have not heard anything regarding the requested SMP for this project.
Chonticha McDaniel (she/her/hers)
401 Stormwater Engineer, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
chonticha.mcdanie[@deq.nc.gov
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From: Wooten, Samantha <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 3:22 PM
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CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Pitner, Andrew <[e-mail]>; Jake Modestow
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Hi all,
Is there an update for this project?

Thanks!
From: Wooten, Samantha
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 11:00 AM
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CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Pitner, Andrew <[e-mail]>; Jake Modestow
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Thank you for answering questions 2 and 3, Jennifer! Once CES Group provides the SMP, Chonticha and I can continue
review of this project. Until then, this project is still on hold.
Thank you,
Samantha
From: Mcdaniel, Chonticha <[e-mail]>
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CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Pitner, Andrew <[e-mail]>; Jake Modestow
<iodestow@ces-group. net>; Sean Coldren <scoldren@ces-group. net>; Sam Kleto <[e-mail]>
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Sounds good, thankyou!
Chonticha McDaniel (she/her/hers)
401 Stormwater Engineer, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
chonticha.mcdanielCa)deq.nc.gov
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From: Jennifer Robertson <[e-mail]>
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Chonticha,
I have added Jake and Sean from CES Group as well as Sam from SC Hondros to keep everyone in the
loop. CES Group should be providing the SMP within the coming weeks.
Thank you,
Jennifer L Robertson, President
ATLAS Environmental, Inc.
338 S. Sharon Amity Road #411
Charlotte, NC 28211
[phone] office
[phone] mobile
www.atiasenvi.com
Offices in Asheville and Charlotte
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From: Jennifer Robertson <[e-mail]>
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KRYSTYNKA B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)<[e-mail]>; Pitner, Andrew
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Thanks Chonticha for the feedback.
Mark,
Chonticha will be reviewing the SMP once CES Group gets it finalized. Do you have any idea of when it can
be submitted?
Thank you,
Jennifer L Robertson, President
ATLAS Environmental, Inc.
338 S. Sharon Amity Road #411
Charlotte, NC 28211
[phone] office
[phone] mobile
www.atiasenvi.com
Offices in Asheville and Charlotte
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From: Mcdaniel, Chonticha <[e-mail]>
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Jennifer,
We need to have the SMP so that we can fully evaluate the downstream impact prior to issuing the 401. It's critical for
us to ensure that stormwater will be routed, treated, and discharged in accordance with the minimum design
requirements before we can certify that the project will not negatively impact the stream.
Chonticha McDaniel (she/her/hers)
401 Stormwater Engineer, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
chonticha. mcdaniel @deg. nc.gov
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From: Jennifer Robertson <irobertson(@atlasenvi.com>
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Sam,
The project civil engineers are working on item #1. Is it possible to condition the 401 to require receipt of the
SMP prior to work commencing on site?
I have responded to items 2 and 3 below.
2. This project involves the expansion and growth of Sennebogen who already operates on the
site. Sennebogen was founded in 1952 and makes equipment and machinery used in scrap metal, logging,
port, and waste industries. They are expanding their business with an additional building as well as the
demonstration pads (gravel and grass) to show buyers how the equipment operates and the capabilities of

their equipment. This new building will house a training facility with hands-on instruction. Some of the training
will take place in the demonstration area. There is dramatic topography on site which dictated where the new
facilities could be located. There is 55' of elevation change from the finish floor of the existing building to the
end of stream impacts. The new building will sit 23' above the demonstration pads which will allow for an
observation patio. There is not enough room to locate the new building, demonstration pad, parking, and SCM
North of the existing building. There is a flatter ridge West of the existing building that is being utilized for the
expansion. The topography North of the existing building is much steeper as evidenced by the 68' elevation
change within a shorter distance from the existing finish floor elevation to the Northern property
boundary. There is a perennial stream that flows along the Northern boundary. Impacts to the buffer of this
perennial stream have been avoided. The proposed impacts are located on the upper reach intermittent
stream where there is very little to no sinuosity indicating erosion has likely relocated the end point of this
stream feature up the drainage. The civil engineers minimized impacts to the greatest extent possible by
planning a steep slope between the new building and the demonstration pads. Another 100'+ of stream impact
could have been proposed for impact before USACE mitigation was required.
3. Attached is a DWR stream form for CH 100 where the impacts are proposed as well as a couple of photos
within the impact reach. The area surrounding the stream has been recently timbered within the last couple of
years.
Please let me know if you have any questions about the information that has been provided.
Thank you,
Jennifer L Robertson, President
ATLAS Environmental, Inc.
338 S. Sharon Amity Road #411
Charlotte, NC 28211
[phone] office
[phone] mobile
www.atiasenvi.com
Offices in Asheville and Charlotte
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From: Wooten, Samantha <[e-mail]>
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To: Jennifer Robertson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 20231637 Sennebogen Trail - Lincoln - 401 Request for Additional Information
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DWR has completed an initial review of the above noted application and requires additional information to continue our
review. Please provide the following information within 30 days of this email. Please note that the application will be
considered "on hold" until receipt of all the requested information.
1. A Complete Stormwater Management Plan (SMP); including all appropriate supplemental forms, O&M
agreements, calculations, drawings, etc., that complies with the requirements of the State Stormwater Program.
The Stormwater Design Manual and applicable forms may be found on the DEMLR's Stormwater website. In

addition, please also complete and submit the application form SWU-101. However, the application fee and the
last two signature pages of the form (SWU-101) are not required.
2. It appears that further avoidance and minimization is feasible for the proposed project. Can the impacts to the
intermittent stream be avoided by moving the demonstration pad?
3. Please provide a stream identification form for the on -site stream.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Samantha Wooten (She/Her/Hers)
401 & Buffer Coordinator
Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
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