NCG551645_Correspondence_20240322

Re: (External] 629 Donlee Rd - Sand Filter System Questions
Bernard, Jane <[e-mail]>
Fri 3/22/2024 1:40 PM
ToJeNGoldman [e-mail]>
It is the Permittee's responsibility to fix the problems. We visit the sites every 3-5 years. If time a:lows follow-ups are completed. It is also the
Permittee's responsibility to disclose all information and records to the buyer. We try to track progress but unfortunately we have over 800 of these
permits and all of our staff are tasked with numerous SFR inspections per quarter in addition to their primary job duties.
If I am contacted by a buyer they are given all information available.
Jane R. Bernard, Environmental Specialist II
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
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From: Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]>
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To: Bernard, Jane <[e-mail]>
Cc: Tavi Hawn <[e-mail]>; Chris Hawn <[e-mail]>; Emily Roberts <em•[e-mail]>; Arden Shelton
<[e-mail]>; Jeff Goldman <jeff.goldman@nestrealtycom>; Rogers, Richard E <[e-mail]>; Hall, Michael
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Subject: Re: (External) 629 Donlee Rd - Sand Filter System Questions
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Good morning Jane, I'm Jeff Goldman the managing broker at !Vest Realty. My one question for you all is when a violation (or documented issue)
is discovered, what is the mechanism you all use to ensure It either is fixed or the seller is prevented from just passing along that issue to the
next unsuspecting buyer? le. A deed recording?
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 8-37AM Bernard, Jane <jane.bernardCa deq pe,goy? wrate:
Good Morning,
I have attached the Final Inspection Letter.
Feel free to call if any questions.
Jane R. Bernard, Environmental Specialist II
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
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Division of Water Resources, 3800 Barrett Drive, Raleigh, NC 27609
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Subject: Re: [External] 629 Donlee Rd - Sand Filter System Questions
To avoid all these emails back and forth, I have completed the letter and submitted it for signature. As soon as it is signed I can email it to all on
this thread. Our records are public record so it shouldn't be a problem.
Jane R. Bernard, Environmental Specialist .I
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
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Division of Water Resources, 3800 Barrett drive, Raleigh, NC 27609
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Hi,
Thank you everyone for trying to clarify what's gong on with this.
In reading both ema 'Is, I have some questions. When Jane's email says: The inspection was the result of a complaint regarding the lack of UV
disinfection. I just received a note from Vanessa Manuel (copied on this email as well as my immediate supervisor Michael Hall) that stated "UV
not working'.
I thought our system didn't have UV so I'm not sure if that complaint is mistaken or if I'm still not understanding this system.
In terms of the dechlorinator, the email says "suspected discharge" and that the dechlorinator hasn't been located yet due to leaves. So from my
understanding a problem hasn't been confirmed yet, is that right?
just want to make sure I'm understanding this as best I can.
Thanks,
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On Thu. Mar 21, 2024 at 9:22AM Bernard Jane <jane.bernard0dWj1r_gpy> wrote:
The inspection was the result of a complaint regarding the lack of UV disinfection. I just received a note from Vanessa Manuel (copied on this
email as well as my immediate supervisor Michael Hall) that stated "UV not working". The facility was on the I st for an inspection this year so I
requested that it was assigned to me so it did not get inspected multiple times this year.
Our files can be viewed at the link below. Publ c Record Files:

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Enter the Permit Number in the search bar "NCG551645"
The 2019 inspection was completed by Vanessa Manuel and can be v-ewed in our Public Record, link above and in the signature line.
My inspection will be uploaded as soon as I complete the letter and get it signed by Vanessa Manuel.
I can make arrangements for the rest of the file to be uploaded as well.
Vanessa's inspection (September 10, 2019) was not written as a violation.
In her inspection she does refer to the chlorinator and dechlorinator and that both were being utilized.
Samples (annual permit requirement) were requested and submitted. The results indicated that TSS exceeded the permit limit and the BOO was
not sampled. CBOD was sampled which is the incorrect parameter, should have been BOO, I can not locate any follow-up sampling or the
Permit required annual sampling. All samples are to be maintained by the Permittee.
am not sure why you are referring to soil samples in your email. Soil samples are not required. Effluent samples are required on an annual
basis.
During my site vis-A the chlorinator (as discussed) appears to be corrugated plastic pipe stuck in the ground. I could not locate the discharge pipe
or the dechlorinator I can not say the dechlorinator is not there. The leaves were to deep past the fence to safely walk and explore. The area
believe the discharge pipe is appears to have a deep ditch but could not locate the end of the pipe. Picture is just to show the depth of the
leaves. The actual area for the suspected discharge is over to the left of this area,
have written the inspection up as an inspection only, as a result of new owners.
Vanessa is now my supervisor and she has the final say on all inspections.
Jane R. Bernard, Environmental St,ecialist II
Water Quality Rogional Operations Section
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Office: [phone] Cell- [phone]
Division of Water Resources, 3800 Barrett Drive, Raleigh, NC 27609
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Subject: [External) 629 Donlee Rd • Sand Filter System Questions
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Hi All.
I am reaching out regarding 629 Donlee Dr in Durham, NC. This is a bit of a long email, but trying to get everyone on the same page so we
can figure this all out.
Myself and Arden are representing the sellers - Tavi and Chris in sell-ng their home. Their home has a sand filter system and we have been
working to ensure we were presenting all the information properly on this type of system to any buyers looking to buy the home.
We have worked closely with McFarland Septic and they have been an incredible resource for us and the sellers as we have been navigating
the nuances of a sand filter system.
We we.ved a notice from Jane Bernard on January 4th regarding the property and some history on the system. I have attached the
screenshot of that email. (That email did not note any mentions of previous violations on the property)

After that email, we proceeded with the sellers to ensure the system was pumped, and the outstanding invoice paid. McFarland noted after
we pumped, we could not do the soil sample because the house was now vacant. So the soil sample had not been performed, but the sellers
were willing to offer that cost to a buyer to have it done following closing.
Jane reached out to the sellers and myself noting that she was either at the property and needed access or would need them to meet her at a
time selected by her for access. We simply could not get a good time to meet.
I spoke with Jane and she updated me on a "complaint" concerning the UV Light. I am no sand filter system expert, but I wasn't aware this
system had a UV light but rather a chlorinator. We had McFarland out to double-check us on that and they did confirm there was no UV light
n this system.
Arden - my business partner - followed up with Jane to see if we could get more information on the complaint for the sellers. We were told
the complaint was sent to Jane's supervisor, but that was all the information she could offer and that it was "anonymous."
Jane visited the property yesterday and noted that there was an issue with the current chlorinator. Jane - could you provide us with photos
of the chlorinator so we can ensure we are all looking at the same thing?
Jane informed Arden that there were violations for the property dating back to 2018 when the last inspection was performed by the previous
owners. We are trying to understand how these violations were never conveyed to the sellers when they purchased the property in 2022?
How are the violations recorded and where are they posted or held? Is this not something that would prevent a seller from conveying a clear
title? This feels majorly important, but the title was clear according to the attorney who performed the closing because no mention was made
otherwise.
We are working diligently and really hard to get this right for everyone involved - the sellers and the current buyers. We feel our sellers were
not provided sufficient information prior to buying the home based on the current information we've received. They had an inspection
performed on the system by a certified septic company prior to their purchase and the inspection did not note any of the issues we are being
presented with, nor did the listing agent. Arden and myself did not represent the buyers when they purchased the home.
And now the sellers are disadvantaged in the process of selling this home because this information wasn't accessible to them prior to
purchasing it.
We are asking for any documentation regarding 629 Donlee Dr in regards to any inspections, violations, and any other information
that can be provided to help the sellers determine how they are going to proceed and what avenues they will need to take to
determine who is at fault for this information not being accessible or provided to them prior to buying the home.
There are a ton of moving parts in this process. And again, we are here to help facilitate this for our sellers to get this right for everyone
involved
Thank you,
EM1LY ]O
BiIkerl Nest Realty
308 W. Main Street Durham, NC 27701
M 9 t9.280.2072
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