20240062 Ver 1_More Info Received_20240202

Moore, Andrew W
From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 4:40 PM
To: Moore, Andrew W; Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
Cc: David Brame
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County -
Request for Additional Information
Attachments: Landing at Meadow View -STREAM -WETLAND EXHIBITS 1-31-24.pdf
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Good Afternoon Andrew,
I have attached the revised exhibits. The profiles on sheet S3 have been updated to show both pipes at these crossing
with the inverts buried 12". Please let me know if you need additional information in order to issue the 401 WQC.
Sincerely,
Michael T. Brame
336.708-4620 (c)
336.310.4527 (o)
PO Box 128
Kernersville, NC 27285
www.nilotenviro.com
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From: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 4:18 PM
To: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>; Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]>
Cc: David Brame <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional
Information
Michael,
On December 27, 2023, the Division of Water Resources (Division) received your application requesting a 401 Water
Quality Certification from the Division for the subject project. The Division has determined that your application is
incomplete and cannot be processed. The application is on -hold until all of the following information is received:
The placement of culverts in streams must be below the elevation of the streambed by one foot for all culverts
greater than 48 inches to allow low flow passage of water and aquatic life. It's unclear from the culvert profiles
provided for impact areas S1 and S2 whether this condition will be met, particularly as rip rap pads at the culvert
outlets are proposed. Please provide a culvert cross section detail showing the provisions for culvert burial that
demonstrates the culverts will meet this condition, or modify the profile figure via notes, adjustments to the
figure, etc. to ensure this condition will be met. [15A NCAC 02H .0506(b)]

Pursuant to Title 15A NCAC 02H .0502(e), the applicant shall furnish all of the above requested information for the
proper consideration of the application. Please provide your response by February 28, 2024. If all of the requested
information is not received, the Division will be unable to approve the application and it will be denied as incomplete.
The denial of this project will necessitate reapplication to the Division for approval, including a complete application
package and appropriate fee.
Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Andrew W Moore, P.G.
Environmental Specialist 11, Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
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From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 10:42 AM
To: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>; David Brame <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional
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Good Morning Shannon,
have attached a revised exhibit and impact table section from the PCN. Wetland impacts W3 and W4 have been
avoided. The rip rap at crossing S2 has been upsized and the impact has been reduced to 20 feet. As discussed in
the field, the rip rap will be embedded into the stream such that it will be flush with the existing bed. There will be
no net loss associated with the rip rap at either crossing. Based on our observations, the streams consist of low
flow pools as they enter the flood plain at the areas that will be impacted by rip rap. Existing aquatic function of the
streams will not be compromised. The stream and wetland impacts as proposed account for 0.0939 acres, not
including the rip rap impacts.
have included photographs of the Rutledge House. As noted from the photographs, the Rutledge House has
broken windows, a tarp over the roof, damaged soffits and one of the doors has been kicked in. The house is to be
repaired and remain on the site. Wetland impact area W2 is located within the view shed of the Rutledge
House. There is woody vegetation located between the house and the impact area, The wooded area is located
on a steep slope and will remain. As it matures, additional buffer will be separate the impact area and the
residence. Please let us know if you need additional information in order to complete the Section 106 evaluation.
Thanks for your assistance with this project. Please let me know if you need additional information.

Sincerely,
Michael T. Brame
336.708-4620 (c)
336.310.4527 (o)
PO Box 128
Kernersville, NC 27285
www.pilotenviro.com
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From: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 2:16 PM
To: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>; David Brame <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional Information
Hi Michael,
Thank you for meeting me today, it was helpful to get a look at the property. As we discussed, we would like to fit this
project under the NWP 18 which requires less than 0.1 acres loss of waters. I have discussed with my colleagues whether
they consider keyed in riprap in the bed of streams as a loss of water and it seems like the answer is fairly project
dependent. For this project, I will need justification for why the length of riprap for impact S2 is necessary as the stream
did not seem excessively steep.
We also discussed leaving the forested buffer between the existing Rutledge House and the wetland below. This, along
with the pictures you took today, will be a great help in our Section 106 evaluation. If you know any history of the house
that would be relevant to its historical significance (or lack thereof) that would also be beneficial to know.
Please also provide justification as to why impacts W3 and W4 associated with lot fill cannot be avoided.
Thank you,
Shannon
From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:12 PM
To: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>; David Brame <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional
Information
Shannon,
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Michael T. Brame

336.708-4620 (c)
336.310.4527 (o)
PO Box 128
Kernersville, NC 27285
www.pilotenviro.com
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From: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 1:48 PM
To: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>; David Brame <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional Information
Great, see you tomorrow at 10am. Please let me know the best place to meet on site.
Shannon
From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 1:28 PM
To: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>; David Brame <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional
Information
Let's do tomorrow.
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On Jan 10, 2024, at 1:22 PM, Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]> wrote:
Ah, I did not check the weather. I had a cancellation for tomorrow and could do 10am tomorrow
instead? Otherwise, we could brave the rain on Friday at 12:30pm.
Shannon
From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 9:57 AM
To: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>; David Brame <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request
for Additional Information
Good Morning Shannon,
We can meet you either time in Fletcher. We will need to bring our rain jackets if we meet Friday.
Sincerely,

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Michael T. Brame
336.708-4620 (c)
336.310.4527 (o)
PO Box 128
Kernersville, NC 27285
www.pilotenviro.com
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From: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 4:07 PM
To: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional
Information
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the updated information. I've looked through the plans and have a few more questions:
Stream impacts indicate that the proposed riprap will impact the "stream channel." Please
clarify whether the proposed riprap associated with S1 and S2 will only be installed along the
streambanks or whether there will be material placed within the bed of the stream.
While the owners of HN1253 Rutledge House may not wish to have the property listed on the
National Register of Historic Places, we still must consider it a potentially eligible structure.
Please provide any pictures of the house, information on when it was constructed, and any
significance it might have (or lack thereof).
I would like to come visit the site and take a look at the impact areas. I am available this Friday 1/9 at
10am or 12:30pm, or I am available next Thursday 1/18 at 10am. Please let me know if any of those
times would work for you.
Best,
Shannon
From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 10:14 AM
To: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request
for Additional Information
Good Afternoon Shannon,
Thank -you for assisting us with this project. Responses are in RED below. Please let me know if you
need additional information in order to issue the permit.
Sincerely,

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Michael T. Brame
336.708-4620 (c)
336.310.4527 (o)
PO Box 128
Kernersville, NC 27285
www.pilotenviro.com
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From: Healy, Shannon CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 10:24 AM
To: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, Andrew W <[e-mail]>
Subject: SAW-2018-01751 Landing at Meadowview, Henderson County - Request for Additional
Information
Good morning,
Thank you for submitting the above referenced PCN. Please note, a Nationwide Permit (NWP) 18 was
requested but this application will be processed as a NWP 29 for residential development projects as the
project impacts exceed the NWP 18 thresholds.
The following information is requested:
1. Please provide new plan sets via email as the provided plans appear to be cut off at the edges,
see attached. The updated plan set showing the entire site is attached.
2. There is a potentially eligible historic property (HN1253 Rutledge House) within the project area.
Please provide pictures of the property, any information you have regarding the structural
integrity of the property, and details on how the structure will be impacted by the proposed
development. The house will remain in place and be incorporated into the new development.
The structure will not be impacted by the proposed development as the grading is not close to
the structure. There is no concern about the structural integrity of the house. The owners do not
intend to list the structure on the historic registry.
Please provide an acreage estimate of the total tree clearing. The civil has calculated the tree
clearing on the whole site to be approximately 16.7 acres.
Please provide the above requested information by February 2, 2024, otherwise the application will be
withdrawn.
Thank you,
Shannon
Shannon Healy (she/her)
Regulatory Specialist
USACE Wilmington District -Asheville Regulatory Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Room 208
Asheville, NC 28801-5006
828-271-7980, ext. 4233
shannon.healv(@usace.armv.mil

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