20231281 Ver 1_USACE Correspondence_20231213

From:
Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
To:
dlutheran(c seai.us
Cc:
Weychert, Curtis R; Meilinger, Michael 1; Gary Mitchell; Hall, Wayne P
Subject:
RE: [Non-DoD Source] FW: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
Date:
Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:22:07 PM
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Hey Dana,
Thank you for your patience, I have been waiting to wrap up my 106 consultation w/ NCSPHO and
the tribes for this project. I received a response letter from the Catawba Nation today, and am still
waiting on responses from INC SHPO and the Tuscarora. I think we are good for ESA, but I need to
wait the 15-days required for the NLEB MA consistency letter (which would be 12/16/23).
In further discussion w/ management, we will be requiring mitigation for the wetland fill. The
wetlands onsite provide an important buffer/water quality function to the adjacent waters which are
tidal wetlands and Outstanding Resource Waters (ORW). They are classified as Estuarine Woody
Wetlands/estuarine wetland fringe and are Riparian wetlands. There are no banks available in this
HUC which provide this type of wetland credit, so out of HUC and out of kind credit is all that is
available to offset the impact.
For these reasons, a 4:1 ratio will be applied for the unavoidable wetland impacts of 0.062-acre
permanent loss. A credit reservation letter to provide 0.248-acre riparian wetland credit is required
in order to continue processing the permit application.
This ratio will be applied to all CWA 404 permit actions going forward which require wetland fill
adjacent to/connected to tidal wetlands/ORW located in this development.
Please provide the requested information within 30-days, or by January 12, 2024.
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me, or directly to my field office chief
(Mickey Sugg).
Kind Regards,
Liz
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Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 10:09 AM
To: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; 'Meilinger, Michael J'
<[e-mail]>
Cc: 'Gary Mitchell' <[e-mail]>;'Weychert, Curtis R' <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] FW: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link

Hi, Liz.
Hope you are well.
Just checking in on this project.
Dana
Dana A. Lutheran
Regulatory Specialist
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Southern Environmental Group, Inc
5315 South College Rd, Suite E
Wilmington, NC 28412
910.452.2711 Office
910.228.1841 Mobile (preferred)
From: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <Sarah.E.HairPusace.army.mil>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 4:58 PM
To: [e-mail]; 'Meilinger, Michael J' <Michael.Meilinger()deq.nc.gov>
Cc: 'Gary Mitchell' <garyamitche1152Pgmail.com>;'Weychert, Curtis R' <curt.weychertPdeq.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] FW: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
Thank you Dana,
I will review and be in touch after Thanksgiving. I'm out most of next week, scheduled to return on
Monday, Nov 27.
1 hope you all have a great holiday!
Liz
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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 12:26 PM
To: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <Sarah.E.Hair(@usace.army.mik 'Meilinger, Michael J'
<Michael.Meilinger(@deq.nc.gov>
Cc: 'Gary Mitchell' <garyamitche1152(@gmail.com>;'Weychert, Curtis R' <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] FW: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
Hello, Liz and Michael.
Please see our responses to your RFAI below.
It is my hope that the information found within an attached to this correspondence will
address your comments. However, should you have any questions or need anything
further, please call me at 910.228.1841.

Have a great day,
Dana
Dana A. Lutheran
Regulatory Specialist
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Southern Environmental Group, Inc
5315 South College Rd, Suite E
Wilmington, NC 28412
910.452.2711 Office
910.228.1841 Mobile (preferred)
From: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <Sarah.E.Hair(@usace.army.mil>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:32 AM
To: dlutheran(@segi.us; 'Snider, Holley' <holley.sniderPdeq.nc.gov>; 'Meilinger, Michael Y
<Michael.Meilinger(@deq.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] FW: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
Thanks Dana,
I was going to email you about this one today, as I have a few questions.
One being the accuracy of the line. 1 know its old, verified back in Henry's days w/ the original
permit for Cannonsgate SD development. 1 think we were last out there (in this location) in 2018,
so I would like to conduct a site visit to see if the line is the same. 1 understand the topography
between the uplands and wetlands is pretty obvious, so 1 would not expect the wetland footprint
to expand.
As per our 10/31/23 site visit, the wetland line, as drawn on the site plan, is accurate.
I've been trying to track down the old permits to verify previous impacts, as there were
substantial dredging impacts, a stream X-ing w/minor wetland fill, but I'm not certain of
additional wetland fill with the subsequent modifications in the mid-2000's (original DCM CAMA
permit no. 120-88, and Corps AID: SAW-2005-00999; original Corps AID unknown at this time).
Any additional wetland impacts associated with development in the subdivision is considered
cumulative.
According to my research, there were no wetland impacts associated with installing any roads
and/or infrastructure within the development. That being the case, the project has independent
utilities and access and, therefore, meets the definition of a "single and complete project" and
should not be treated cumulatively with the marina impacts or other impacts they may have
taken place, to date, within the development.
Please provide additional information regarding the applicant's efforts to avoid and minimize
impacts to wetlands associated with the development of this site. According to Carteret County

GIS, the applicant also owns two other waterfront lots within this subdivision which could be
developed without impacting wetlands.
Further avoidance and minimization has been incorporated into the plan. This was accomplished
by positioning the structure as close to the front yard setback (i.e., 20' off the front property
boundary) as possible and redesigning the back stairway (see attached 737 Cannonsgate Dr.
CAMA Major Site Plan V2). This measure reduced wetland impacts by another 522 SF / 0.012 AC
(i.e., from 3202 SF / 0.073 AC down to 2680 SF / 0.062 AC). As discussed during our on -site
meeting, the Applicant intends to build upon other lots he owns within the subdivision. This
home is intended for his daughter.
Additionally, are there any additional impact drawing for the proposed development? Alternate
site plans, or additional cross sections? If you could get the wetlands overlaid on an aerial with
the proposed site plan, that would be helpful to me in my review.
Unfortunately, there are no other site plans, for this project and SEGi is unable to overlay the
plan on an aerial.
Further, Mickey and 1 have had a discussion about requiring compensatory mitigation for the fill
associated with the development at 737 Cannonsgate Drive. We can discuss this in more detail
once 1 have received the requested additional information.
While SEGi understands the USACE District Engineer has the discretion to require compensatory
mitigation for impacts deemed to have more than minimal individual and cumulative adverse
effects on the aquatic resource's functionality, in this case the physical, chemical and biological
functions of the upper reach of a Headwater Forest, where vegetation is severely managed and
sediment has been deposited during hurricane events. Completion of the NC Wetland
Assessment Method (WAM) Calculator resulted in the wetland complex ranking low in functional
value (see attached). Based on the WAM results, it is of SEGi's opinion the proposed fill will only
remove flood storage area. The proposed project will not have an effect on flood levels, as all
stormwater generated from the proposed development will be directed toward the road, where
it will be collected and treated prior to discharging into the adjacent receiving water (i.e., Bogue
Sound). Based on this information, SEGi and the Applicant are of the opinion compensatory
mitigation is not warranted, as the proposed project will not have more than minimal individual
and cumulative adverse effects on the aquatic resource's functionality.
I am unable to complete my review until this information has been received and the above questions
have been adequately addressed.
This project has been assigned Corps action ID: SAW-2023-01896 and will be reviewed through the
GP 291 process.
I'm hoping we can find a time to meet onsite in the next couple of weeks.
Thank you!
Liz
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Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 10:42 AM
To: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <Sarah.E.Hair(@usace.army.mil>; 'Snider, Holley'

<holley.snider(@deq.nc.gov>; 'Meilinger, Michael J' <Michael.Meilinger(cDdeq.nc.gov>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] FW: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
Hello, All.
I wanted to check to see if you guys have had a chance to review the CAMA Major
application packet for this project (737 Cannonsgate Dr, Carteret Co., Butch Howard
applicant) and, if so, there were any questions.
Liz, the line is pretty cut and dry, but would be happy to meet you there to take a look.
Dana
jouthern Environmental Goup, Inc.
53 15 50uth College iZoad, juite L
Wilmington, NC 2541 2
Phone: % 1 0.452.271 1
Mobile: [phone] (Preferred)
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From: Bodnar, Gregg <gregg.bodnarPdeq.nc.gov>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 12:13 PM
To: [e-mail]; Weychert, Curtis R <curt.weychertCCDdeq.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
To date there are no comments of note. If any do come in we will send them along.
Gregg
Gregg Bodnar (he/him/his)
Major Permits Coordinator
Division of Coastal Management
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
[phone]
Please note my new email address (gregg.bodnar(@deq.nc.gov).
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 11:57 AM
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Subject: FW: [External] RE: NC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
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Hello, Curt and Gregg.
Hope you both are doing well.
I was curious if the DCM had received any feedback on this project (Butch Howard - PA-
1165) and, if so, the comments could be forwarded to me, so that I could start on the
response. Once the review period has ended, I will provide a single response to all of the
comments.
Many thanks,
Dana
jouthern Environmental Goup, Inc.
53 15 50uth College Road, `juite L
Wilmington, NC 2541 2
Phone: % 1 0.452.271 1
Mobile: [phone] (Preferred)
WWW.SeE;l.115
From: Hall, Wayne P <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 11:34 AM
To: [e-mail]
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Good morning,
Yes, the application was marked as complete and is now being circulated to other agencies for
comments. Curt Weychert and Gregg Bodnar are now handling the Major Permit.
Thanks!

Wayne Hall
Field Representative
Division of Coastal Management
400 Commerce Avenue
Morehead City, NC 28557
[phone]
Wayne.Hall(@deg.nc.gov
www.deq.nc.gov
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 11:16 AM
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Hi, Wayne.
I wanted to check in on this project (Butch Howard - PA-1165). It is my understanding the
application was considered complete without a request for additional information, which
rarely happens to me. LOL
Anyway, who in your office would be processing the application from here?
Many thanks.
Dana

Southern Environmental Goup, Inc.
531 5 South College }toad, Suite r-
Wilmington, NC 284 i 2
Phone: 9 1 OA52.271 1
Mo6ile:910.228.18+1 (Preferred)
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Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 12:05 PM
To: Butch Howard <ismitche11360(@gmaiI.com>, Southern Environmental Group, Inc. (SEGi)
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Cc: Hall, Wayne P <Wa)lne.Hall(@deq.nc.gov>
Subject: INC DEQ DCM - Permit Fees Payment Link
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