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From: Myers, Joseph M
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2023 9:29 AM
To: 'Logan Williams'
Cc: Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA)
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Request for Additional Information: SAW-2023-01889 (Williams
Property / 3597 Browns Pond Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
Hey Logan,
It appears that the impacts for this project qualify you for coverage under our General Certification. You do not need an
Individual 401 Water Quality Certification from our office. The activities listed for riparian buffer impacts are deemed
allowable, therefore, you do not need authorization for those impacts either. If your impact plans are to change, please
notify our office immediately. Please see the link below for the General Certification.
GC4246: https://edocs.deg.nc.gov/WaterResources/DocView.aspx?dbid=0&id=2193801&cr=1
Please feel free to reach out with any questions.
Joe Myers
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone] 1 Cell: [phone]
Joseph. Myers@deg. nc.gov
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From: Logan Williams <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:38 PM
To: Myers, Joseph M <[e-mail]>
Cc: Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Request for Additional Information: SAW-2023-01889 (Williams Property / 3597 Browns Pond
Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
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This section of the water is only 2 feet wide, but I the total crossing will be about 10 feet long.

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On Nov 2, 2023, at 9:28 AM, Myers, Joseph M <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hey Logan,
I appreciate you getting back to me with all of this. I apologize if I may be missing this information in
what you've already provided, but what is the length of the crossing you plan on putting in?
Thank you,
Joe Myers
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone] 1 Cell: [phone]
Joseph. Myers@deq. nc.gov
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From: Logan Williams <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 9:18 AM
To: Myers, Joseph M <[e-mail]>; Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA)
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Request for Additional Information: SAW-2023-01889 (Williams Property /
3597 Browns Pond Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
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Hey Joe,
I apologize for the delay. I have attached the photos, sketch, and impact map. If there's any
issues, or you need anything additional please let me know.
Thanks for all your help,
Logan Williams
From: Myers, Joseph M <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 8:58 AM
To: Logan Williams <[e-mail]>; Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA)
<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Request for Additional Information: SAW-2023-01889 (Williams Property /
3597 Browns Pond Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
Hello, Logan and Matt,

I apologize for the lack of communication. There has been an error with the regional office's receipt of
this project. It is currently not showing up in our project list. Our central office staff are working on
getting that resolved.
Logan, could you please reupload the photos you've provided Matt, as well as sending a new copy of
your impact maps to us. The sketch provided is showing up pixelated on our end, and I did not receive
the attachments of the photos you provided to the USACE. Could you also provide us with an updated
impact map for our records, as it sounds like you will now have stream impacts that are 20 feet in width.
Thank you,
Joe Myers
Environmental Specialist 11
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone] 1 Cell: [phone]
Joseph. Myers@deq. nc.gov
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From: Logan Williams <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 8:19 AM
To: Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Myers, Joseph M <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] Re: Request for Additional Information: SAW-2023-01889 (Williams Property / 3597
Browns Pond Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
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Mr Martin,

Please see the attached image. I used the preliminary plat for the sketch, since it shows the riparian
buffer/creek. The proposed crossing location and fill limit are noted in red. Please let me know if this
does not suffice, and I can do it differently.
From: Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 8:11 AM
To: Logan Williams <[e-mail]>
Cc: Myers, Joseph M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Request for Additional Information: SAW-2023-01889 (Williams Property / 3597 Browns
Pond Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
Logan,
Thank you for providing that info so fast. Can you please provide a plan view sketch, showing where on
the property the proposed crossing would be. On this drawing, please note the width of the fill limit at
the crossing. Feel free to reach out if you have a question.
Thank you!
Matt
Matthew K. Martin, PWS
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
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From: Logan Williams <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 8:29 AM
To: Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA) <[e-mail])
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Request for Additional Information
/ 3597 Browns Pond Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
Mr. Martin,
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SAW-2023-01889 (Williams Property
Attached above is a sketch of the intended design, and four photos of the site. You were correct, and the
water at the site is nowhere near as large as I originally estimated. While the creek bed is larger, the
width of this specific section of water is only 2 feet (as shown in pic with measurement).
I consulted with a general contractor and he suggested utilizing a 24in culvert. We will also utilize
another 24 in culvert as an overflow culvert in the case of a heavy rain. The general contractor did
suggest I use 20ft culverts, if that's alright. He said this would provide better stability and prevent
erosion of the fill material, since the creek bed itself is about 4 feet deep. The fill material is estimated to
be 10 cubic yards of mostly ABC gravel. The general contractor did suggest using a small amount of
concrete that will be poured by hand to fortify the bridge.
I can adjust these plans however needed. Also, please let me know if you need anything further from
me. Thanks for all your help.
Sincerely,
Logan Williams
From: Martin, Matthew K CIV (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:36 PM

To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Cc: Myers, Joseph M <[e-mail]>
Subject: Request for Additional Information: SAW-2023-01889 (Williams Property / 3597 Browns Pond
Road / Selma NC / Johnston County)
Mr. Logan Williams,
Thank you for your PCN, dated September 215Y, 2023, for the above referenced project. I have reviewed
the information and need clarification before proceeding with verifying the use of the requested Standard
Permit (IP). Please submit the requested information below (via e-mail is fine) within 30 days of receipt of
this Notification or we may consider your application withdrawn and close the file. Please email
([e-mail]) me if you have any questions/concerns or would like to set up at
time to discuss.
This project appears to better fit under a non -notifying NWP 14. The Corps has an obligation to
process actions in the least cumbersome way possible. Due to this the Corps will process this
PCN as a Non -Notifying NWP 14. Please review the general and regional conditions associated
with NWP 14.
a. https://saw-reg.usace.army.mil/NWP2021/NWP-14.pdf
2. In order to verify your proposed project is in compliance with general condition 32(4)(iii)
requests that sketches should contain sufficient detail to provide an illustrative description of
the proposed activity (e.g., a conceptual plan), but do not need to be detailed engineering plans.
a. Please provide the Corps at least one sketch that show the intended design, include the
location and size of the proposed culvert and fill extents of the road. Please also show
the aquatic resources that the road is proposing to cross in relation to the design.
Please reach out if you have any questions on how to proceed.
Thank you,
Matthew K. Martin, PWS
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587

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