R3421B Minutes form 4C Meeting on 8192015

4C Meeting Minutes for R-3421B
PROJECT: R-3421B
345421.FR3
DESCRIPTION: I-73/74 Bypass from South of SR 1140 (Old Charlotte Hwy)
To Southwest of SR 1304 (Harrington Rd)
COUNTY: Richmond - Division 8
�NOTE: On 9/1/2015 we were notif'ied this project was removed from the `Bond
List" and that work should cease at an appropriate point and to not resume until
funding becomes available. The 4C permit will be revised per comments below
and then work will cease until notif'ication is sent to the Hydraulics Unit to
proceed with Draft and Final permit submittals.
Team Members:
Andy Williams-USACE (Present, conference call)
David Wanucha- NCDWQ (Present, conference call)
Travis Wilson-NCWRC (Absent)
Gary Jordan-USFWS (Absent)
Dr. Cynthia Van Der Wiele-USEPA (Absent)
David Harris- REU(Absent)
Felix Davila-FHWA (Present)
Participants:
Galen Cail-NCDOT Hydraulics (Present)
Joe Dunnehoo-NCDOT Hydraulics (Present)
Chris Rivenbark-NES (Present)
Jason Dilday-NES (Present)
Lisa Feller-PDEA (Present)
John Olinger-Division 8 (Present)
Rekha Patel- NCDOT Roadway Design (Present)
Chris Adam-NCDOT Roadway Design (Present)
Mark Staley-Roadside (Present)
Mack Bailey-Structures (Present)
Don Proper-Utilities (Present)
Kyle Pleasant-Utilities (Present)
The 4C Meeting was held on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 in the Hydraulics Unit
Conference room at the NCDOT Century Center Complex, Raleigh. Galen Cail
reviewed the plan sheets with the attendees. Comments are as follows:

General Comments:
• Andy Williams noted that Bank Stabilization impacts (permanent) should be
separate from the fill in stream impacts (permanent) on the Impacts Summary.
This will be reviewed and verified.
• Andy Williams and Davis Wanucha requested a copy of the Impact Comparison
Table. Will be attached with 4C minutes.
Site # 1(Plan Sheet 5& 6):
• No comments.
Site # 2 (Plan Sheet 21):
• The 66" pipe and impacts located at sta. 12+90-Y4- will be shown as Site 2A.
Site #3 (Plan Sheet 7):
• Review alignment of outlet pipes relative to downstream outfall channel.
Site #4 (Plan Sheet 8):
• Review alignment of outlet pipes relative to downstream outfall channel.
Site #5 (Plan Sheet 10):
• No comments.
Site #6 (Plan Sheet 11):
• It was discussed to continue the wetland boundary outside of proposed R/W for
clarity. After the 4C meeting it was determined the wetland boundary should
close just outside of proposed R/W. Therefore, this wetland will be accounted for
as a total take.
Site #7 (Plan Sheet 11):
• No comments.
Site #8 (Plan Sheet 12):
• Add inlet and outlet channel detail for the culvert to the plan sheet and permit
drawing.
Site #9 (Plan Sheets 16 & 22):
• No comments.
Site #10 (Plan Sheet 16):
• It was verified the JS stream does stop in the wetlands at sta. 304+60�-L- (Lt.)
• The wetlands at sta. 35+35�-YS-(Lt.) within the ramp and mainline quadrant will
be shown and accounted for as a total take as both mechanized clearing and
excavation in wetlands impacts.
Site #11 (Plan Sheet 23):
• No comments.

Site #12 (Plan Sheet 19):
• The wetlands between Sta. 351+00� to sta. 354+75�-L-(Rt.) will not be shown as
a total take. Also, portions of this wetland impact were accounted for on the
original R-3421C permit. These impacts will be accounted for/subtracted from
the final impacts in the R-3421B permit.
Surface Water Impacts Comparison Table:
• Under the "Existing Channel Impacts Permanent (ft.)" for Site No. 2, the quantity
is shown as 28. This was determined to be a type-a The correct number should
have been 203 ft. This will be changed on the form.
Wetland Impacts Comparison Table:
• It was asked why there was a big difference between the Current and Preliminary
Impacts at Site #10. The difference was because the wetlands were redelineated
and the area was reduced.