20050046 Ver 2_More Info Received_20070119

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NCDENR
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
. Division of Coastal Management
Michael F. Easley, Governor Charles S. Jones, Director William G. Ross Jr., Secretary
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TO:. Noelle Luthern -DWQ -Wilmington
Heather Coats -DCM -Wilmington
Dave Timpy - USACE -Wilmington
Steve Everhart - NCWRC -Wilmington
Fritz Rodhe - NCDMF -Wilmington
Cyndi Karoly -DWQ -Raleigh
FROM: Richard S. Weaver -DCM, Morehead City
SUBJECT: revisions to David Greer, Sloop Point docking facility, in Pender County
Date: January 3, 2007
Please find attached workplan drawings and application revisions as well as a letter from
Clemens Marine Construction addressing the issues raised by DCM in a letter dated 12/8/06
(also attached) concerning the dredging proposal submitted by David Greer for the Sloop Point
20-slip docking facility. Please use the attached revisions for your response to DCM. Could you
please provide your comments for the revised project to me via email ([e-mail]),
fax [phone]) or mail (400 Commerce Ave, Morehead City, NC 28557). If you have any
questions please give me a call at 252-808-2808. If you could please provide your comments to
me as soon as possible, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone.

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NCDENR
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Coastal Management .
Michael F. Easley, Governor Charles S. Jones, DII'eCtot' William G. Ross Jr., Secretary
December 8, 2006
David Greer
PO Box 15813
Wilmington, NC 28403
Dear"Mr. Greer:
This letter is in response to your application request under the Coastal Area Management
Act (LAMA) to modify CAMA Major Permit No. 41-05, in which the applicant is
requesting to dredge within~the seven interior boat slips on the northwest side an existing
dock structure, in Pender County. Processing of the permit application, which was
received by the Division of Coastal Management's Wilmington office on November 3,
2006, is ongoing. However, it has been determined that additional information will be
required prior to the Division taking final action on your application. These items are
summarized below:
1) It has come to the attention of the N.C. Division of Coastal Management that a major
discrepancy pertaining to water depths exist between what was issued on May 6,
2005 for the construction of the 20-slip docking facility, and the water depths
depicted on the workplan drawings submitted for the current dredging proposal. The
workplan drawings submitted for the 20-slip marina (dated 2/23/05) indicate a water
depth of approximately 6 ft. normal low water (9 ft. normal high water - 3 ft. tidal
amplitude) in and around the 10 landward boat slips. The workplan drawings
submitted for the current modification request for dredging (dated 9/14/06) indicate
the depths around the 10 landward boat slips is approximately 1.5 ft. normal low
water. This discrepancy suggests a change in bottom elevation of 4.5 ft. over a little
more than a year's time. Please describe in detail the explanation for this major water
depth discrepancy. 'The results of this explanation will then be circulated to all
review agencies for their review.
2) The submitted workplan drawing dated 9/25/06, showing a profile of the area to be
dredged, suggest the proposed dredging will result in a "hole", or exceed the depth of
the adjacent bottom elevation, on the landward side of the docking facility. This is a
direct violation of 15A NCAC 07H.0208(b)(F), which states, "Any canal or boat
basin shall be excavated no deeper than the depth of the connecting channels." Please
provide a detailed cross-section showing the area to be dredged and the final depth,
being sure to address DCM concerns related to the potential "hole".
400 Commerce Ave., Morehead City, North Carolina 28557
Phone: [phone] \ FAX: [phone] \ Internet: www.nccoastalmanagement.net
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3) The submitted workplan drawing dated 9/14/06, showing aplan-view of the proposed
dredge area, indicate water depths on the north and south side of the docking facility
of less than 3 ft. at normal low water (1.4 - 1.5 ft. normal low water). If the
requested water depth on the landward side of the docking facility is permitted to a
final depth of 3 ft. normal low water, DCM is concerned that boats accessing the
landward slips from both the north and the south will "kick" the shallow bottom
during ingress and egress. Please describe in writing how you intend to address this
issue.
4) On November 21, 2006, DCM issued a Notice of Violation (NOV) for non-
compliance with condition #8 of the original permit (State Permit No. 41-05). It is
the policy of the Division that no new permits or modification can be issued or.
reviewed for projects that have active NOV's, until the restoration plan has been
completed•to the satisfaction of the Division of Coastal Management.
You will be given five working days from the date of this letter to respond to this request
for additionalinformation: If you can provide to this office the requested information,
including a statement from DC1V1 that the NOV has been .resolved, the DCM staff will
continue processing of the application and the processing clock will not be suspended. If
the required information is not provided to this office within the specified time frame,
processing of the application will be suspended until such time as the requested
information is provided. If you have any questions concerning these matters, please feel
free to contact me by telephone at [phone], or by email at
rich.weaver @ ncmail.net.
Sincerely,
Rich Weaver
Asst. Major Permits Coordinator
Cc: Heather Coats -DCM Wilmington
Fritz Rohde - DMF Wilmington
Noelle Luthern - DWQ Wilmington
Steve Everhart - WRC Wilmington
Dave Timpy - USACE Wilmington
Mark Clements
577 NC Hwy 210 W
Hampstead, NC 28443

Clemens Marine Construction
577 NC HWY 210 West
Hampstead NC 28443
910-270-9110 or910-620-9505
E-mail clementsmarineco~a,bellsouth.net
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Division of Coastal Management • ,
400 Commerce Ave., ~ DEC 2 2 2006
Moorhead City NC 28557 .
Dear committee, Morehead City DCM
This is the response for the Sloop.Point dredge request for David Greer. Response to
question one of your requests. The application far the 20 slips at sloop point was
modified from our original request to install 10 boat lifts on the two existing 10 slip
docks we had when we purchased the property from Mrs., Redwine. We were directed to
modify our request by shell fish to prevent a closed to shell fish ruling. The water depths
on the drawings for this proposal were taken from the drawings from Mrs., Redwines
application in 1985, where Mrs., Redwine was granted two docks with 10 slips each on
floating structures. We have done away with the floating structures and put the lifts on
fixed structures. We were in shock that we had to combine all of our lifts on one dock,
and being so I did not think to recheck our water depths, at that time. Our lifts now are
workable lifts, but are hard for the home owners to get in and out at a really low tide. The
area discussion, From Topsail Inlet, Banks Channel run along the backside of S. Topsail
Island, heading north for about nine miles and then turns back to the west to dump into
the AICW. On the far bank of the AICW directly in front of this channel is where our
dock is located. This area consist of strong pushing currents which as the ability to
change water depths more than normal erasion over years.
In Question [3) of your letter you have indicated concerns of entry to the slips at low
water from the north and south ends of the dock. Our boats aze limited to 24ft and under.
A boat of this size with the motor tilted will normaly only draws 10 to 14 inches of water.
How ever we would like to take the interior channel out 13 feet more on each side if we
can, and this would give us enough water to come and go at any tide. So I have reworked
the drawings to show this and have changed the dcm-dp2 form to reflect this change. This
should solve any concerns in this matter.
Question [4J asked about a violation of our permit with the size boats. I have been in
direct contact with Heather Coats in this matter and have complied with every thing we
need to do to correct this matter. Mr., Greer had rented the slips that were not sold to
people in Pecan Grove, knowing that this was only temporary he did not think to ask
about the boat sizes and have had them remove there boats from these lifts.

If I can be of further assistance please feel free to contact me at 910-620-9505 or you can
e mail me at clementsmarineco(a~bellsouth.net. Thank you. ~~
DEC 2 2 ~OQ6
Morehead City DCM
. Regards,
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Form DCM-MP-2
EXCAVATION
AND FILL
(Except bridges and culverts)
Attach this form, to Joint Application for CAMA Major
Permit, Farm DCM-MP-I. Be sure m complete all
other sections of the Joint Application ffiat relate to this
Proposed project.
Describe below the purpose of proposed excavation or
fiI1 activities. All values to be gives in feet.
Areraas Final
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Access
channel
(MLW j or (NV4'L}
Canal
Boat
basin
Boat
ramp
Rock
groin
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breakwater
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stabilization)
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1. EXCAVATION
a. Amount of material to be ezcavaz~ below
MHW or NWL in cubic yards /~ _..,.
b. Type of material to be excavated ;'~i.Z~l C~
c. Does the area to be excavated include coastal
wetlands (marsh), submerged aquatic vegetation
(SAVs) or other wetlands? Yes ~.G, No
d. Highground excavation in cubic yards !j~
2. DhSPOSAL OF EXCAVATED
MATERIAL
a. Location of disposal area ~~ .'"~ ,~r~~iir ~~~ _
b. Dimensions of disposal area 1~Q ~~ 2 (r~ yo
c. I)o you claim title to disposal azea?
Yes ~ No
If no, attach a taxer granting permission from the
owner.
d. WiII a disgosai ~vrea be available for future
maintenance? i~/ Yes No
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e. Does the disposal area include any coastal wetlands
(marsh), SAVs or other wetlands?
Yes ~ No
f. Does the disposal include any area in the water?
Yes ,,..~_ No
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(1) Amo ~~~do~~t~pi~ed in the
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(2) Dimensions of fill area
{3} Purpose of fill
3. SHORELPt'E STABILIZATION
~/ a: Type of shoreline stabilization
Bulkhead Riprap
b. Leag*h
e. Average distance waterward of MHW or NWL
d. Maximum distance waterward of Ml:i•V+I or NWL
e. SI•,oreline erosion during preceding 12 months
(Sourct of informc.:onj
f. Type of bulkhead or riprap material .
g. A:rount of fail in cubic yards to be placed below
Ovate:level _
(i) Riprap
(2) Bulkhead backfill
h. T;T.e of fill marerial
i. Source of fill material
4. OTHER FALL ACTTVTTITS
(Fxduding Shoreline Stabilization)
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1 ~ a. Will fill material be brought to site?
~/ ~ Yes No
b. Will fill material be placed in coastal wetlands
(marsh), SAVs or other wetlands?
Yes. ~ No
If yes,
(I) Dimensions of fill area
(2) Purpose of fill
5. GENERAL
a. How. will excavated or fill mat1,ia~be kept on sit~9 '
and erosion controlled? ~r a'- _ sal ~~C~~~//` i
b. What type of constrsction e;uipment will be used
(for ezampie, dragline, backhoe, or hydraulic
drer'ge)?
c. Will wetlands be crossed in transporting equipment
to project site? Yes ~ No
If yes, explain steps that will be taken to lessen
environmental impacts.
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Letter of authorization
Att: Sloop Point Plantation Dredge Request.
I AC Skinnard being the owner of the proposed spoil site located at sloop point plantation
does hereby give Mr. Greer permission to use this sifie as his spoil site, to aid in the back
fill needed for my sea wall. I also have applied for dredging and wild use this same site.
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