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“…neither the Department nor any local control measure that promotes standing water in order to comply with this section…”government shall require the use of stormwater retention ponds,
stormwater detention ponds, or any other stormwater
Peck, Kaitlin
From:Farkas, Jim J
Sent:Wednesday, February 22, 2023 7:52 AM
To:Moseley, Alan, PE
Cc:kevin schonsheck
Subject:RE: \[External\] RE: Rowan County RV Dealership in Salisbury, Rowan County
If there are no non-stream wetlands on site, you just need to place a note on the plans (or just on one plan sheet in the
plan set) indicating that there are no wetlands present on site and include the name of the individual that made that
determination (If I recall correctly, the stream is already shown on the plans).
As for the airport, it’s a suggestion, not a requirement. If the local airport is OK with the wet ponds then we have no
issue with them either. Essentially, the way that G.S. 143-214.7(c3) is worded,
. We cannot force a project in this 5
mile zone to provide detention in order to meet treatment requirements, we need to provide acceptable alternatives
that can be used in lieu of detention. The rule does not say that we are prohibited from approving or that we cannot
allow an SCM that ponds water in this zone if the permittee so chooses to utilize one.
Jim Farkas
State Stormwater Engineer
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: (919) 707-3646
Jim.farkas@ncdenr.gov
From: Moseley, Alan, PE <amoseley@Blcompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 4:47 PM
To: Farkas, Jim J <Jim.Farkas@ncdenr.gov>
Cc: kevin schonsheck <kevinjschonsheck@gmail.com>
Subject: \[External\] RE: Rowan County RV Dealership in Salisbury, Rowan County
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Jim,
I’m in receipt of your comments concerning our submission. I’m getting the required documents signed but have a
couple of questions
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I have a wetlands delineation report and it has this attached exhibit showing streams on the site. These were the only
wetlands observed. The USACE agreed that the possible streams were actual streams. Is this information enough? I can
show the streams on the plans as well, but the delineation doesn’t exactly match the ground contours due to the
delineation was created with handheld GPS, not a survey.
On your other comment about being close to an airport, we have a letter from the airport where they state we comply
with the separation distance required by the FAA. I submitted to the FAA as well, but they had no comment and
deferred to the local airport. The ponds will not be on the flight path to the airport and are small. Additionally, we are
planting the vegetative shelf which, from the Stormwater Design Manual, will “discourage waterfowl”. Let me know
your thoughts.
Alan W. Moseley, P.E.
Principal Engineer
BL Companies | Employee owned. Client driven.
3420 Toringdon Way, Suite 210 Charlotte, NC 28277
tel: 704.565.7070 | direct: 704.851.7093
mobile: 704.999.5154
www.blcompanies.com
From: Farkas, Jim J <Jim.Farkas@ncdenr.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 11:46 AM
To: Moseley, Alan, PE <amoseley@Blcompanies.com>; Raelene St. Clair <rstclair@generalrv.com>
Cc: CHURCH, AARON <Aaron.Church@rowancountync.gov>; Eplin, Jerry W <jerry.eplin@ncdenr.gov>
Subject: Rowan County RV Dealership in Salisbury, Rowan County
Good Morning,
We received your application for a new Fast-Track ATC post-construction stormwater permit on 2/10/2023. At this time,
the submission is not administratively complete and cannot be accepted for review in its current condition. Please
provide the following submittal items within 30 calendar days (by close of business on 3/23/2023) so that we may
accept the project and begin the review process, otherwise, the project will be returned as administratively incomplete.
2x hard copies of the Application Form (or pages) with the following corrections made (A complete application is
required per 15A NCAC 02H .1043(3)(a)):
Part C2 – Please indicate the post-construction program that this project is subject to (Urbanizing Areas
(Phase 2)).
Part E1 – Please indicate the density of this project (this project appears to be a high-density project).
1x original signed and notarized/sealed hard copy of Parts G, H, & I of the Application. 2x original signed hard
copies of this form are required and only one was provided (the other copy appears to be a photocopy).
2x hard copies of a construction sequence discussing how any future development on the project may be
phased. This item is required per 15A NCAC 02H .1043(3)(g). The construction sequence does not need to be
lengthy, just a brief description of how future development on the project (beyond what is shown on the
plans) will be phased. If no future development is planned for the project, you can simply state that in the
construction sequence. This item is different than the E&SC sequence of construction.
2x hard copies of a plan sheet with the following corrections made:
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Wetland delineation or a note on the plans stating that there are no wetlands located on-site. This item
is required per 15A NCAC 02H .1043(3)(f) and Part F4 of the Application. Please also list the name of the
individual that made this determination in a note on the plans.
NOTE: This is an administrative completeness review, not a detailed engineering review, there may be other issues that
may be brought up during the engineering review. While not required for administrative completeness, the following
items were noted during review:
- This project is located within 5 miles of a public airport. It is recommended to use SCMs that do not promote
standing water in accordance with G.S. 143-214.7(c3)
https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_143/GS_143-214.7.html.
Alternative SCMs that can be used within the 5 mile radius of a public airport are outlined in Part E-4 of the
Manual https://deq.nc.gov/media/9977/download.
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NOTE: The Standard Application for this project received by our office on February 2, 2023 is being returned as a
project can only be accepted into one review queue/permitting path. The submittal items associated with the Standard
Application (and not needed for the Fast-Track ATC Application) will be returned to the Applicant (except for the roll of
plans, that is too large for us to return my mail, but it can be arranged to be picked up if you would like it back). If you
would like the items returned to a different address/individual, please let me know by close of business Friday,
2/24/2023.
If these items are received within the stipulated timeframe, we can accept the project and begin the review process.
Once accepted, reviews under the Fast-Track permitting process can take up to 30 calendar days per statute (one of our
two reviewer positions is currently vacant).
Hard copies should be mailed to the following address:
For FedEx/UPS:
Jim Farkas
512 N. Salisbury Street, Office 640M
Raleigh, NC 27604
For USPS:
Jim Farkas
1612 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1612
If you have any questions, please contact Jim Farkas at jim.farkas@ncdenr.gov or 919-707-3646.
Thank you,
Jim Farkas
State Stormwater Engineer
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: (919) 707-3646
Jim.farkas@ncdenr.gov
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