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Burdette, Jennifer a
From: judyhogan @mindspring.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:52 PM
To: Higgins, Karen; Burdette, Jennifer a; Devane, Boyd
Cc: Diana Hales; Karen Howard; Jim Crawford; Mike Cross; walter petty
Subject: Addendum to my letter of 3/24/15 on Green Meadows permit 404
Attachments: Army Core 404 permit -- letter to Craig Brown-- 3- 30- 15.rtf
From: judyhoganCa)mindspring.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 8:46 AM
To: Craig Brown
Subject: Addendum to my letter of 3/24/15 on Green Meadows permit 404
Mr. Craig Brown
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Regulatory Office
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
March 30, 2015
Dear Mr. Brown:
I wrote to you back on March 24, but I have learned some new information, so I'm writing again in an
addendum to my first letter. First, I want to thank you for encouraging citizens to call or write to you. We feel
very acknowledged by you in our concerns.
We held a prayer vigil on March 25, last Wednesday afternoon, at the Buckhorn United Methodist Church in
Brickhaven, with 75 people in attendance, including four ministers who offered prayers, and three of us
activists who have been working on this issue. On my drive down Corinth Rd. and then down Hwy 42 to the
church, I observed all the six factories and their full parking lots. The particle board plant is especially large
now, and it had hundreds of cars in its parking lot. Apparently they work three shifts in 24 hours, making for a
great deal of traffic both going north toward Moncure and Highway #1, and toward Sanford on NC highway
42. 1 passed 60 homes, and an RV park run by Mr. Dickson, who is also a farmer, growing deer corn and some
other farm crops. I learned from those living in the area that Mr. Dickson's RV park backs up to the Brickhaven
site for the proposed coal ash dump, and that it contains 75 places for RVs to park. The park looked quite full.
We in our coal ash group, Chatham Citizens Against Coal Ash Dump, had several new folks present who reside
very close to the proposed dump sites, both from Brickhaven and from Colon Road, come to our meeting
Friday night. We are urging them to write to you or call you. They are very disturbed. A woman farmer whc
lives next door to the Colon Road site said she had helped birth 10 kids from her goats this week. I believe
she'll write to you. She also has horses. She has been especially sad and worried.
I asked my agricultural agent, Debbie Roos, out of the Agriculture Extension Service in Chatham to tell me the
names of the farms along the proposed truck route, which we found on the Charah permit: from Charlotte,
trucks would take 421 from Greensboro, then from Siler City, 64, then through Pittsboro (perhaps the 87 link
which goes south and connects to Moncure - Pittsboro Rd.) They could go through the circle in Pittsboro, but I

would guess not. It has steady traffic and is in the heart of the downtown. Here are the names of farms along
that route. On 64 into Pittsboro (the by -pass 64 becomes a narrow two -lane road, Business 64), there are
Howard's Farm (peaches, apples, and blaeberries), Oakmont Nursery, Huckleberry Trail Farm, and there's the
new Alpaca farm. On Moncure - Pittsboro Rd, there is an organic farm right next to our two -lane road called
Edible Earthscapes. They grow vegetables all year long.
The Charah people have told us at the open houses sponsored by Duke back in December 2014 that the coal
ash would not come out of the trucks, but we saw films from a Charlotte TV station of Charah moving coal ash
only a short distance in Asheville to the airport, and those living on that road were suffering from coal ash
coming off the trucks. One man was wearing a gas mask to mow his lawn. We understand it also comes off the
rail cars, and that the railroads do very little oversight. Our post office in Moncure is maybe 100 yards or less
from the CSX railroad line. There are two delivery routes to outlying areas around Moncure, but about 400
people get their mail in the post office, and many of us drive there every day to get our mail. Those who live
in "downtown" Moncure are between old #1 and the railroad line. Many of the folks who live in Moncure live
either along Moncure - Pittsboro Rd.,along Old #1, and or along Corinth Rd. I would expect the trucks coming
from Charlotte to the Colon Road site would also use the same route down Moncure - Pittsboro Rd, and then
down five miles on new #1 to Colon road. From Wilmington, since those trucks would come around Raleigh
on 1 -40 and then down new #1 probably to either Pea Ridge Road (exits 81 (off #1) or to Moncure - Flatwood
Rd, (exit 84 off #1) and then down Corinth Rd to Brickhaven, more Moncure folks would be affected. There
are homes on both Pea Ridge and Moncure - Flatwood roads. Our fire department is located at the corner of
Old #1 and Pea Ridge Road. Duke and Charah are asking a lot of our volunteer fire department who are called
out whenever traffic accidents occur or hazardous spills.
Another issue which has many folks concerned is how EMT and fire department personnel will get to the
people who live anywhere near this dump with all the train cars and especially at crossings. We have lots of
people commuting and school buses, but if a coal ash train blocked the crossings by the post office or near the
Recycle center, how would the EMTs get to the people. At one of the Duke open houses when Mr. Charles
Price, the owner of Charah and Green Meadows, was asked this question back in December, he merely
shrugged.
Duke Energy likes to tout itself as a "good neighbor." We know better. Right now it seems to me that Duke
and Charah, and the limited liability company, Green Meadows, have set it up so that they can do whatever
they want without concern for the people whose lives they will affect. This much coal ash from those
hundreds of trucks and train cars over the years to come, will, in effect, be like genocide. We can't live here in
a healthy way if there is coal ash in our air and getting into our ground water and eventually into the Cape
Fear. We know that Duke has a big coal ash problem, but they shouldn't be moving it around, and they
shouldn't be storing in "land fills." It is toxic, it does harm and sickens human beings. We need to slow this
process down. Both Duke and the DENR folks are rushing things. They have set open hearings for April 13 and
April 16, in Lee and Chatham, for three permits. This is unprecedented. We may have legal options, though
it's tricky with the state allowing this.
This is why we so need you to schedule an open hearing. The federal Army Corps could slow this down and
even stop it. Please use whatever power you have to keep us from being the recipient in Lee and Chatham of
20 million tons of coal ash. The liners will leak. The leachate, I hear, can go through the liners. Nothing
serious could be built on top of these coal ash dumps, and the whole area would suffer economically and harm
so many people's lives not only here but all along these roads and rail lines. Plus, it would be a precedent, and
North Carolina has a lot more clay pits. I feel like the little boy with his finger in the dyke. Thank you for
listening. Please do all you can. Thank you again,

Judy Hogan, PO Box 253, Moncure, NC 27559. 919 - 545- 9932judyhogan @mindspring.com
CC: Karen Higgins, Jennifer Burdette, Boyd Devane of DENR; Chatham County Commissioners

Mr. Craig Brown
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Regulatory Office
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
March 30, 2015
Dear Mr. Brown:
I wrote to you back on March 24, but I have learned some new information, so I'm writing again
in an addendum to my first letter. First, I want to thank you for encouraging citizens to call or
write to you. We feel very acknowledged by you in our concerns.
We held a prayer vigil on March 25, last Wednesday afternoon, at the Buckhorn United
Methodist Church in Brickhaven, with 75 people in attendance, including four ministers who
offered prayers, and three of us activists who have been working on this issue. On my drive
down Corinth Rd. and then down Hwy 42 to the church, I observed all the six factories and their
full parking lots. The particle board plant is especially large now, and it had hundreds of cars in
its parking lot. Apparently they work three shifts in 24 hours, making for a great deal of traffic
both going north toward Moncure and Highway 41, and toward Sanford on NC highway 42. I
passed 60 homes, and an RV park run by Mr. Dickson, who is also a farmer, growing deer corn
and some other farm crops. I learned from those living in the area that Mr. Dickson's RV park
backs up to the Brickhaven site for the proposed coal ash dump, and that it contains 75 places for
RVs to park. The park looked quite full.
We in our coal ash group, Chatham Citizens Against Coal Ash Dump, had several new folks
present who reside very close to the proposed dump sites, both from Brickhaven and from Colon
Road, come to our meeting Friday night. We are urging them to write to you or call you.
They are very disturbed. A woman farmer who lives next door to the Colon Road site said she
had helped birth 10 kids from her goats this week. I believe she'll write to you. She also has
horses. She has been especially sad and worried.
I asked my agricultural agent, Debbie Roos, out of the Agriculture Extension Service in
Chatham to tell me the names of the farms along the proposed truck route, which we found on the
Charah permit: from Charlotte, trucks would take 421 from Greensboro, then from Siler City,
64, then through Pittsboro (perhaps the 87 link which goes south and connects to
Moncure - Pittsboro Rd.) They could go through the circle in Pittsboro, but I would guess not.
It has steady traffic and is in the heart of the downtown. Here are the names of farms along that
route. On 64 into Pittsboro (the by -pass 64 becomes a narrow two -lane road, Business 64),
there are Howard's Farm (peaches, apples, and blaeberries), Oakmont Nursery, Huckleberry Trail
Farm, and there's the new Alpaca farm. On Moncure - Pittsboro Rd, there is an organic farm right
next to our two -lane road called Edible Earthscapes. They grow vegetables all year long.
The Charah people have told us at the open houses sponsored by Duke back in December 2014
that the coal ash would not come out of the trucks, but we saw films from a Charlotte TV station

of Charah moving coal ash only a short distance in Asheville to the airport, and those living on
that road were suffering from coal ash coming off the trucks. One man was wearing a gas mask to
mow his lawn. We understand it also comes off the rail cars, and that the railroads do very little
oversight. Our post office in Moncure is maybe 100 yards or less from the CSX railroad line.
There are two delivery routes to outlying areas around Moncure, but about 400 people get their
mail in the post office, and many of us drive there every day to get our mail. Those who live in
"downtown" Moncure are between old 41 and the railroad line. Many of the folks who live in
Moncure live either along Moncure - Pittsboro Rd.,along Old 41, and or along Corinth Rd. I
would expect the trucks coming from Charlotte to the Colon Road site would also use the same
route down Moncure - Pittsboro Rd, and then down five miles on new 41 to Colon road. From
Wilmington, since those trucks would come around Raleigh on I -40 and then down new 41
probably to either Pea Ridge Road (exits 81 (off 41) or to Moncure - Flatwood Rd, (exit 84 off 41)
and then down Corinth Rd to Brickhaven, more Moncure folks would be affected. There are
homes on both Pea Ridge and Moncure - Flatwood roads. Our fire department is located at the
corner of Old 41 and Pea Ridge Road. Duke and Charah are asking a lot of our volunteer fire
department who are called out whenever traffic accidents occur or hazardous spills.
Another issue which has many folks concerned is how EMT and fire department personnel will
get to the people who live anywhere near this dump with all the train cars and especially at
crossings. We have lots of people commuting and school buses, but if a coal ash train blocked
the crossings by the post office or near the Recycle center, how would the EMTs get to the
people. At one of the Duke open houses when Mr. Charles Price, the owner of Charah and
Green Meadows, was asked this question back in December, he merely shrugged.
Duke Energy likes to tout itself as a "good neighbor." We know better. Right now it seems to
me that Duke and Charah, and the limited liability company, Green Meadows, have set it up so
that they can do whatever they want without concern for the people whose lives they will affect.
This much coal ash from those hundreds of trucks and train cars over the years to come, will, in
effect, be like genocide. We can't live here in a healthy way if there is coal ash in our air and
getting into our ground water and eventually into the Cape Fear. We know that Duke has a big
coal ash problem, but they shouldn't be moving it around, and they shouldn't be storing in "land
fills." It is toxic, it does harm and sickens human beings. We need to slow this process down.
Both Duke and the DENR folks are rushing things. They have set open hearings for April 13 and
April 16, in Lee and Chatham, for three permits. This is unprecedented. We may have legal
options, though it's tricky with the state allowing this.
This is why we so need you to schedule an open hearing. The federal Army Corps could slow
this down and even stop it. Please use whatever power you have to keep us from being the
recipient in Lee and Chatham of 20 million tons of coal ash. The liners will leak. The leachate, I
hear, can go through the liners. Nothing serious could be built on top of these coal ash dumps,
and the whole area would suffer economically and harm so many people's lives not only here but
all along these roads and rail lines. Plus, it would be a precedent, and North Carolina has a lot
more clay pits. I feel like the little boy with his finger in the dyke. Thank you for listening.
Please do all you can. Thank you again,

Judy Hogan, PO Box 253, Moncure, NC 27559. 919 -545 -9932 judyhogan @mindspring.com