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(Fwd) (Fwd) Re: July 7 meeting agenda
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Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) Re: July 7 meeting agenda
Date: Wed, I Apr 1998 14:13:26 EST
From: "JASON DOLL" <[e-mail]>
Organization: DWQ Water Quality
To: [e-mail]
Forwarded message:
From: Self <NRDEM02/TS19Y76>
TO: Sullins Coleen
Subject: (Fwd) Re: July 7 meeting agenda
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:43:53 EST
As you requested.
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From: <[e-mail]>
Organization: DEM Water Quality
To: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:21:25 EST
Subject: Re: July 7 meeting agenda
Priority: normal
Jason - The message was sent to the following folks
[e-mail]
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Jessica [e-mail]
Linvill�;@wsro.ehnr.state.nc.us
[e-mail]
In addition, I invited Owen Anderson (Wildlife Resources Commission) since he and
Ron Linnville had the most
serious comments on the EA. Jay Sauber indicated he cannot make it, so he suggested
inviting Mike Mickey
(WSRO) and Kurt Turnbower I forwarded it to Mike and left it up to him to get
this to Kurt, since I don't know
who he is or where he works.
I think you brought up some good points. Will Coleen and Ruth have a chance to meet
with Preston/ Steve before
next Monday to discuss this? I figured we needed to get an update on these issues
(especially about the wq
testing that is going on) from staff before we approached the big guys regarding
what they wanted to do. I
wouldn't have gone ahead and finalized the meeting if I had known you or Coleen or
Ruth had these concerns.
Ruth never said anything in her e-mail. Alan didn't seem to see a problem with
setting up the meeting either - he
has been the project manager on this up to now since it started way before my time.
I have not been in any
meetings, nor do I know what Preston or Tedder want on this. I am merely trying to
satisfy internal DEHNR
concerns with the EA and I thought a meeting among all the staff players would be
informative and would help
define what we should do (i.e. get staff support for what to do with these issues).
I am not sure what you want
me to do at this point. Please let me know. Are you going to attend the meeting?
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a I understand from the meeting on May I that hydrologic modeling can only be done
up to U.S. Lock & Dam No. I in Bladen County. Is this also the case with DWQs
water quality modeling?
0 I -low does DWQ and DWR propose to coordinate the input and output data between
the water quantity and quality models in the interest of basinwide water quantity and
quality management?
Please respond to this request prior to the next meeting of the Steering Committee.
T Sin
crely,
Kurt G. Taube
Executive Director
cc.* Authority Board Members
Mr. Mick Noland
Mr. Jeff Phillips
Mr. Lee Smith
Mr. Dave Weaver
Mr. Greg Martin
Mr. Ed Xreul
Ms. Kristin Beck
Mr. John. Bauer
Mr. Roger Sheats
Mr Chuck Wakild
Mr. Tom Fransen

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(Fwd) (Fwd) Re: July 7 meeting agenda
From: "JASON DOLL" <[e-mail]>
Organization: DEM Water Quality
To: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:00:28 EST
Subject: Re: July 7 meeting agenda
Priority normal
Michelle,
I have a couple questions/concerns. First off, who did this message
go to besides me? As you can see from the tracer below, it does not
say. What I'm wondering is who are you planning to have at the
meeting? The reason I ask is that we have all had a general
awareness that the questions you raise here loom large, but I
don't think we have reached any clear consensus on the answers to all
of them yet (but maybe I've missed something). I'm not sure how much
good we will be to High Pt. in terms of giving them direction at this
juncture.
Were you in the last internal meeting we had out at the lab with
Dorney and Jay Sauber and everybody? I don't remember anything
concrete coming out of that, other than the plan to begin sampling
the Deep River in that area again. We might need to have another one
of those internal pow -wows before we can tell High Pt. what they need
to do.
Have Tedder or Preston rendered any opinions thus far? This
whole dealy has become a large enough political matter that they
probably need to weigh in on it about now. Nevermind consensus, we
are basically going to end up doing what they say to do. I think
their angle is somewaht complicated by the substantiail history of
EMC involvement on this project.
Please Advise, Jason
• From: <[e-mail]>
• Organization: DEK Water Quality
• To: Michelle Suverkrubbe
• Date: Tue, I Jul 1997 10:36:06 EST
• Subject: LTuly 7 meeting agenda
• Reply -to: [e-mail]
• Cc: boyd@dem. ehnr. s ta te. nc. us
• Priority: normal
> The High -Point Eastside WWTPI Randleman Lake meeting has been set for -Tuly 7 (next
monday) at 10:00 am in
> the13 floor conference room (room number 1304S) in the Archdale Bldg. in Raleigh.
Please be aware there are
two
> conference rooms on the 13th floor - so look at the room numbers to be sure you
are in the right place! Please
try
> to attend or make sure a representative of your office can attend. This project
has been in DWQ for over a year
> and we really need to move it forward as soon as possible.
> The puxpose of the meeting is to discuss the proposed High Point Eastside WWTP
'expansion (currently under
> DEMVR review as a draft: EA) and its relationship with Randleman Lake (as a future
water supply) .
> Tentative Agenda is as follows:
>
> 1) High Point Eastside WWTP Expansion EA - its current status and DWQ's concerns
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BOARD MEMBERS
BLADEN COUNTY
Frank Belote
13RUNSWICK COUNTY
%Villiam D. Carter
R(Chard Dlc*a Marshall
Alton Milliken. Sr.
JiVnes *Bubba* Smith
COLUMBUS COUNTY
Dompsay B. Harring
Lynwood Nonis
NEW HANOVER COUNTY
William A. Caster
134mlel W. Eller
PENDER COUNTY
Robert M. Forand, Jr.
CfgvGland Simpson
CITY OF WILMINGTON
John R. Andrew
Don Betz
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
Kurt G. Thubo
Lower Cam? rp"v w,,i- .170
If "JI& V W"- A 111110rity
POst Qffice Box 1673
Wilmingtoil, Nortl-, Carolina
-28402
[phone]
[phone] PAX
May 67 1997
Mr. Jason C. Doll
Environmental Modeler
DEHNR
Water Quality Section -
P.O. Box 29535
Raleigh, NC 27626-05.35
Itc: Water Quantity and Quality Modeling
Dear Mr. Doll:
It was a plrut3ure to mea yoLI on May I after Vie Cape Fear River Model
Steering Committee Meeting, and to have an opportunity to briefly and
generally discuss water quantity vs water quality modeling in relationship
tO the subject at hand regarding Jordan Lake water allocafions. _and
interbasin transfers. Several questions and comments were put fordi during''
our meeting about water quantity and quality modeling relationships and
data result possibilities, but no specifies were related or offered other than
that the information to be provided through the hydrologic mod*el would
be used to assist with DWQ's water quality modeling efforts.
In order for me to be better informed and educated about this matter as a
representative on the Steering Committee, I request tliat you provide to me
in writing it response to the questions asfollows:
* Can one model be developed by known technology that
simultaneously addresses water quantity and quality? if lot,
describo reasons by parameters and components why this would not
be Practical or could not be done.
* What components and parameters need to be included for
establishing the most eff-ective water quantity model that would
provide DWQ the best beneficial data and infortnation to help
maximize results to assist with water quality modelinc'0 Be very
specific, 01

(Fwd) (Fwd) Re: July 7 meeting agenda
> 2) Randleman Lake project - what is the latest on the water quality testing?
Will the water quality meet public
> water supplyl health standards? What is realistic chances of this lake becoming a
water supply - regardless of
> the WQ results?
> 3) Will permitting this discharge endanger the potential future water supply use
of this water? Will the WSWS
> regulations come into play too late to afford any real protection to the water
supply?
> 4) Should High Point be required to better address the secondary NPS water
quality impacts from
> induced growth (to protect this potential water supply) as part of the WWTP
expansion? or can they wait many
> years to implement stormwater controlslBmPs once the WSWS reclassification is
complete? Can1should DWQ
> require this as a condition of the FONSI on the WWTP expansion?
* 5) How should DWQ proceed on the NPDES pexmit issue in light of these factors?
* Some alternatives -
* a. Not allow the EA to go out as is. Require the preparation of an EXS (due to
the potentially significant indirect
> and cumulative effects of the project that HP are not yet mitigating in the EA).
We can ask for a public hearing
for
• the EXS.
• b. Make HP adopt stormwater controls for the project service area as a condition
of the EAIFONSI.
> (Xf so, what controls? Water Supply Watershed minimums or some other
stormwater requirements?)
> c. Allow the EA to go on without addressing these items further. Do not hold up
the EA or the permi t. Let the
> Lake project deal with these issues.
> X will try to keep the meeting as short as possible, but I have reserved the
conference room for 2 hrs.
> Thank you!
• Michelle L. Suverkrubbe, AICP
• Environmental Specialist
* NC Department of Environment Health and Natural Resources
* Division of Water Quality, Planning Branch
* 512 N. Salisbury Street
* P.O. Box 29535
* Raleigh, NC 27626-0535
* [phone] x 567
Michelle L. Suverkrubbe, AICP
Environmental Specialist
NC Department of Environment Health and Natural Resources
Division of Water Quality, Planning Branch
512 N. Salisbury Street
P.O. Box 29535
Raleigh, NC 27626-0535
[phone] x 567
Jason Doll
Environmental Modeler
NC Division of Water Quality
PO Box 29535
Raleigh, NC 27626-0535
Tel: [phone] ext 507
Fax: [phone]
[e-mail]
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BLADEN COUNTY
Frank Seloto
BRUNSWICK COUNTY
W1111am D. Carter
Richard 0DIcko Marshall
Alton Milliken, Sr.
James 'Bubba* Smilth
L. C.F.W.& S.A.
TEL [phone]
Lower Cape Fear Water and SewerAuthority
COLUMBUS COUNTY
Dempsey B. HarrIng
Lynwood Norris
NEW HANOVER COUNTY
WIlUarn A. Castor
Daniel W. Mr
PENDER COUNTY
Robart M. Forand. Jt.
Cleveland Simpson
CITY OF WILMINGTON
John R. Andrew
Don Botz
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
Kurt G. Thube
Post Office Box 1673
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High Point - need to set up meeting
Subject: High Point - need to set up meeting
Resent -Date: Wed, I Apr 1998 14:12:35 EST
Resent -From: "JASON DOLL" <[e-mail]>
Resent -To: iason—[e-mail]
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 16:43:04 EST
From: <[e-mail]>
Organization: DWQ Water Quality
To: [e-mail],[e-mail], [e-mail],
[e-mail], [e-mail]-us, [e-mail]
CC: [e-mail], [e-mail],
[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
I received a call from Randy McNeil (with Davis -Martin -Powell) regarding the
High Point EA this mornizig. I told him that we are uncomfortable issuing a
FONSI on the EA at this time, but that we were also reluctant to require an EIS
(but that is not out of the question due to the serious prediction of WQ
violations in the future Randleman lake, even with proposed advanced
treatment of the WWTP). I also indicated that we have a variety of questions
and concerns pretaining to the WWTP and the reservoir. I suggested setting up
a meeting with his firm, City of High Point, and DWQ staff (permits, modeling,
and regional folks) sometime after the first of September.
The purpose of the meeting will be to talk about our concerns with both the
WWTP, the future lake and other WQ issues that we are trying to grapple with
in this watershed. We need to have a suggested game plan for them. I did not
bring up the "Watershed Management Plan" that Preston talked about
requesting from-PTRWA. We need to get those details in order first.
So - I need you all to check the following dates -- September 2, 3, 5, 8, 10,
11, or 12 -- and let me know what days and times you can or cannot be
available to meet on this project.
Please let me know as soon as you can.
Thank you.
Michelle Suverkrubbe
Division of Water Quality
[phone] x 567
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Thank you fol- Your considerations of these cornments in your delibe.-ations, of these important
matters.
Very t yours,
Kurt Taube
Executive Director
K-j-."'Ij
cc: ALIthority Board Members
Mick Noland. PWC of Fayetteville
Jeff Phillips, Brunswick County
Lee Smithl Brunswick County
Dave Wcaver, New Hanover Countv
Greg Martin, Bladen County
Ed Knjel. International Paper Co.
Kristen Beck, Dupont
John Batier, Pender County
Chuck Wakild, Water Management Trust Fund
Hugh Caldwell, City of Wilmin—gion
Jim Varner, Brunswick County
Mary Gornto, City of Wilmington
Larry Summers, Bladen County
Roger Sheats, Mid Carolina COG
Paul Butler, Jr., N.C.'s Southeast
Harper Peterson, City of Wilmingrton
Camilla Herlewich, Cape Fear River Program

[Fwd: (Fwd) HIGH POINT]
Subject: [Fwd: (Fwd) HIGH POINT]
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:58:21 +0100
From: "Boyd DeVane" <boyd — [e-mail]>
To: Steve Zoufaly <steve — [e-mail]>
Dianne Reid <dianne [e-mail]. state.nc.us>
Jay Sauber <[e-mail]> 3
Ruth Swanek <ruth — [e-mail]>
Jim Blose <jim [e-mail]> Jason Doll
John Dorney <[e-mail]>
Internal
<jason—[e-mail]> 30
Anyone have any Solomon -like wisdom to address this issue?
Subject: (Fwd) HIGH POINT
Resent -Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 10:18:57 EST
Resent -From: TS19W70@,mordor.ehnr.state.nc.us
Resent -To: boyd,[e-mail]
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:18:36 +0000
From: "LARRY COBLE" <LARRY—[e-mail]>
Organization: WSRO DENR
To: [e-mail],, tommy__,[e-mail],
[e-mail], [e-mail]
What do we need to do to get this moving??
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From: "Steve Mauney" <STEVE—[e-mail]>
Organization: WSRO DENR
To: LARRY [e-mail]
Date: Mon, f3 Mar 1998 17:17:26 +0000
Subject: HIGH POINT
Reply -to: steve — [e-mail]
Priority: normal
When we met with High Point on 3-2-98 they indicated that the
Eastside plans have been near completion for months. The final plans
were submitted to Construction Grants & Loans on 3-16-98. There is
ONE BIG PROBLEM -the plans can't be approved until a permit is issued.
This leads to another problem- a permit application can't be
submitted until a FONSI is issued by this agency. The FONSI is the
approval that we issue of their ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESMENT. This leads
us to the MAIN PROBLEM -they can't get their EA APPROVED because it
has been linked to the Randleman Lake EA. While this regional office
may have had a little involvement in getting the HP EASTSIDE WWTP
ENV.ASSES. linked to Randleman Lake EA, it now looks like we need to
move on with the High Point EA. Their plant can't handle much more
than 20 MGD before it gets into compliance problems. (on January
27-98 their flow went to 22.14 MGD with a BOD=345 mg/1 and TSS=248
mg/1 ). OBviously there are significant design problems and some
operational problems when their chlorine contact basin has so many
solids that it looks like an aeration basin. Based on our meeting we
understand that they are spending $7 million on I/I, are replacing
major sections of sewer (8,000 ft of the Mechanicsville sewer not to
mention others), and have a full time I/I crew working on the
Eastside basin. Solids handling and disposal has plagued this plant
but with the recent activation of a centrifuge and activation of the
incinerator in the next few months that problem should be under
control. My suggestion is that we proceed with the approval of the EA
for the Eastside plant so they can begin to get an npdes permit
process and then UPGRADE THIS WWTP. Please review and forward to
anyone who may be able to resolve this EA blockade.
Larry D. Coble
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Tile State is required to protect the uses Ofour water resources and should conduct or hire
OUtside Consultants to conduct -studies required to assess tile potential beneficial and detrimental
inpacti on water uses.. If hydrological niodcling is a necessary tool that tile State needs to protect
all water I'CSOLJI*CCS, then tile State -should be re-
sponsible in making the budgetary financial
provisions re(lUired to appropriately rnanage and protect these rescourccs. Rcqljcsritl(y
stakeholders throughout the basin to provide lunip sum fividin for the model cannon
9 t be done
equitably, and could ffir-ther polarize the interbasin transfer issues and concerns amongst all the
stakeholders.
Funding for hydrological modeling by DIVR should be obtained through the lecislature as part of
the agencV's annual bUdget process. Aliother potential funding SOUrce for DWR COUld be an
appropriadon till-OL1811 the Water Management Trust Fund. You may Nvant to explore this with
Mr. David NIcNaught, Executive Dire 7'
ctor.
I don't believe at this point in tinle tilat Ill equitable fundingVproacli between stakeholders
til"OU-01OL11 tile entire basin can be arranged that will receive funding commitments from all local
governmenT.S. T hope DVtTR staff will consider these comments ill its deliberations of the Aindint-,
question for a model fOrtilc Cape Fear River Basin, and ramificatior s I is c d i, v o t
fundine ol'otiler hydrolo a C 11 Ile
gical models that Will Ultimately be necessary In other parts ofthe State.
Ill cOnclusion, nly recommendations are as fbflows:
That DWR obtain funding fior the model thrOUS,111 special appropriations 1111*000) tile
legislature or other S. tate funded progranis
supportive of environmental projects.
Ifthe above is not possible. then the aPPlicants, benefitting from an interbasin transfer
ShOUld Solely be responsible fOrthe niodel's ffindinca. Downstream stakeliolders from
Jordan Lake should not be asked or required to inc-Ur expenses fior the necessity of a
Illodel promulgated by requests and needs of upstrearn stakeholders. The implication ill,-j[
downstream stakeholders ShOUld 11ave part owliel-silip of the inodel throu-tyli financial
Pal-ticiPation is like saVincy tllillt downstream -stakeholders will sollichow loose bencf1ts as a
result 0i'llow the modal is developed if they don't Participate financiallv. Of"COUrse, this is
'lot tile case because the need flor modelitig-is to Proect potential down'treani water
qUantity and q1lalitY i'llpacts caused and affeCted by upstream water users and related
�Valcr diversions
sucVgest that DWR study and examinea*systeni orfuser fees anionest the entities
obtainill-cy Nvater from Jordan Lake to pay
-% for the costs of required modelinc-y. This can be
Stablished and justified as a coniponent-of a.11 customer's water rate alone -With tile other
rate conlponenES such as debt servict., and opearation and maintenance. %�