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Mate' of North Carolina
Department of Environment
and Natural Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
James B. Hunt, Jr., Governor
Bill Holman, Secretary
Division of Water Quality
May 16, 2000
Mr. Morten A. Hansen, III, Partner
Morten Hansen III and Robert L. Hansen Partnership
3 Gate 6 Carolina Shores
Calabash, NC 28467
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NCDENFZ
NORTH CAROUNA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
Subject: Permit No. SW8 980820
The Thistle Golf Club
High Density Stormwater Project
Dear Mr. Hansen: Brunswick County
The Wilmington Regional Office received a complete Stormwater Management Permit Application for The Thistle
Golf Club on April 19, 2000. Staff review of the plans and specifications has determined that the project, as
proposed, will comply with the Stormwater Regulations set forth in Title 15A NCAC 2H.1000. We are forwarding
Permit No. SW8 980820 dated May 16, 2000, for the construction of The Thistle Golf Club.
This permit shall be effective from the date of issuance until May 16, 2010, and shall be subiect to the conditions
and limitations as specified therein. Please pay special attention to the Operation and Maintenance requirements
in this permit. Failure to establish an adequate system for operation and maintenance ofthe stormwater management
system will result in future compliance problems.
If any parts, requirements, or limitations contained in this permit are unacceptable, you have the right to request an
adjudicatory hearing upon written request within thirty (30) days following receipt of this permit. This request must
be in the form of a written petition, conforming to Chapter 150B of the North Carolina Oreneral Statutes, D-id filed
with the Office of Administrative Hearings, P.O. Drawer 27447, Raleigh, NC 27611-7447. Unless such demands
are made this permit shall be final and binding.
If you have any questions, or need additional information concerning this matter, please contact Linda Lewis, or
me at [phone].
Sincerely,
5 Z d" a 2
Rick Shiver V
Water Quality Regional Supervisor
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Delaney Aycock, Brunswick County Inspections
Linda Lewis
Wilmington regional Office
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State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 980820
STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
DIVISION OF WATER QUALITY
STATE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT
HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT
In accordance with the provisions of Article 21 of Chapter 143, General Statutes of North Carolina as amended, and
other applicable Laws, Rules, and Regulations
PERMISSION IS HEREBY GRANTED TO
Morten Hansen III and Robert L. Hansen Partnership
The Thistle Golf Club
Brunswick County
FOR THE
construction, operation and maintenance of 2 non -discharging wet detention pond systems in compliance with the
provisions of 15A NCAC 2H :1000 (hereafter referred to as the "stormwater rules') and the approved stormwater
management plans and specifications and other supporting data as attached and on file with and approved by the
Division of Water Quality and considered a part of this permit.
This permit shall be effective from the date of issuance until May 16, 2010 and shall be subject to the following
specified conditions and limitations:
I. DESIGN STANDARDS
1. This permit is effective only with respect to the nature and volume of stormwater described in the
application and other supporting data.
2. This stormwater system has been approved for the management of stormwater runoff as described on page
3 of this permit, the Project Data Sheet. The stormwater controls, Pond 1 and Pond 2, have been designed
to handle the runoff from 1,194,415 ft and 4,468,843 ft respectively, of impervious area.
3. Approved plans and specifications for this project are incorporated by reference and are enforceable parts
of the permit.
4. The tract will be limited to the amount of built -upon area indicated on page 3 of this permit, and per
approved plans.
5. The golf course is proposing roads, cartpaths, streets, and 1208 multi -family units, limited to 1,500 square
feet per unit.
6. All runoff from the impervious areas of the site will be treated in a non -discharging wet pond system.
7. The project shall be maintained with a built -upon area percentage no greater than 30%. -
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Permit No. SW8 980820
DIVISION OF WATER QUALITY
PROJECT DESIGN DATA SHEET
Project Name:
The Thistle Golf Club
Permit Number:
SW8 980820
Location:
Brunswick County
Applicant:
Mr. Morten A. Hansen, III, Partner
Mailing Address:
Morten Hansen III and Robert L. Hansen Partnership
3 Gate 6 Carolina Shores
Calabash, NC 28467
Application Date:
April 19, 2000
Name of Receiving Stream/Index #:
Shingletree Swamp / (LBR 15-23-2)
Classification of Water Body:
"C Sw"
Pond Number:
POND 1 POND 2
Pond Depth, feet:
6 6
Permanent Pool Elevation, FMSL:
44.5 45.5
Drainage Area, acres:
218.91 143.5
Total Impervious Surfaces, ftz:
1,194,415 4,468,843
Offsite Area entering Pond, ft2:
none, per Engineer
Required Surface Area, ft2:
57,410 83,757
Provided Surface Area, ftz:
1,393,570 742,559
Required Storage Volume, W:
1,031,506 1,089,668
Provided Storage Volume, W:
1,864,520 1,575,525
Temporary Storage Elevation, FMSL:
45.82 47.59
Controlling Orifice:
4 n/a n/a
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Permit No. SW8 980820
II. SCHEDULE OF COMPLIANCE
1. The stormwater management system shall be constructed in it's entirety, vegetated and operational for its
intended use prior to the construction of any built -upon surface.
2. During construction, erosion shall be kept to a minimum and any eroded areas of the system will be repaired
immediately.
3. The permittee shall at all times provide the operation and maintenance necessary to assure the permitted
stormwater system functions at optimum efficiency. The approved Operation and Maintenance Plan must
be followed in its entirety and maintenance must occur at the scheduled intervals including, but not limited
to:
a. Semiannual scheduled inspections (every 6 months).
b. Sediment removal.
C. Mowing and revegetation of side slopes.
d. Immediate repair of eroded areas.
e. Maintenance of side slopes in accordance with approved plans and specifications.
f. Debris removal and unclogging of outlet structure, orifice device and catch basins and piping.
g. Access to the outlet structure must be available at all times.
4. Records of maintenance activities must be kept and made available upon request to authorized personnel
of DWQ. The records will indicate the date, activity, name of person performing the work and what actions
were taken.
5. Decorative spray fountains will not be allowed in the stormwater treatment system.
6. The facilities shall be constructed as shown on the approved plans. This permit shall become voidable unless
the facilities are constructed in accordance with the conditions of this permit, the approved plans and
specifications, and other supporting data.
7. Upon completion of construction, prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy, and prior to operation of
this permitted facility, a certification must be received from an appropriate designer for the system installed
certifying that the permitted facility has been installed in accordance with this permit, the approved plans
and specifications, and other supporting documentation. Any deviations from the approved plans and
specifications must be noted on the Certification.
8. If the stormwater system was used as an Erosion Control device, it must be restored to design condition prior
to operation as a stormwater treatment device, and prior to occupancy of the facility.
9. The following items will require a modification to the permit:
a. Any revision to the approved plans, regardless of size.
b. Project name change.
C. Transfer of ownership.
d. Redesign or addition to the approved amount of built -upon area.
e. Further subdivision, acquisition, or sale of the prof ect area. The project area is defined as all property
owned by the permittee, for which Sedimentation and Erosion Control PI i approval was sought.
f. Filling in, altering, or piping of any vegetative conveyance shown on the approved plan.
10. The Director may determine that other revisions to the project should require a modification to the permit.
11. A copy of the approved plans and specifications shall be maintained on file by the Permittee for a minimum
of ten years from the date of the completion of construction.
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12. Prior to the sale of any portion of the property, an access/maintenance easement to the stormwater facilities
shall be granted in favor of the permittee if access to the stormwater facilities will be restricted by the sale
of any portion of the property.
13. The permittee is responsible for verifying that the proposed built -upon area does not exceed the allowable
built -upon area.
14. The runoff from all built -upon area on the project must be directed into the permitted stormwater control
system.
15. The Director may notify the permittee when the permitted site does not meet one or more of the minimum
requirements of the permit. Within the time frame specified in the notice, the permittee shall submit a written
time schedule to the Director for modifying the site to meet minimum requirements. The permittee shall
provide copies of revised plans and certification in writing to the Director that the changes have been made.
16. The permittee shall notify the Division of any mailing address changes within 30 days.
III. GENERAL CONDITIONS
This permit is not transferable. In the event there is a desire for the facilities to change ownership, or there
is a name change of the Permittee, a formal permit request must be submitted to the Division of Water
Quality accompanied by an application fee, documentation from the parties involved, and other supporting
materials as may be appropriate. The approval of this request will be considered on its merits and may or
may not be approved.
2. Failure to abide by the conditions and limitations contained in this permit may subject the Permittee to
enforcement action by the Division of Water Quality, in accordance with North Carolina General Statute
143-215.6A to 143-215.6C.
3. The issuance of this permit does not preclude the Permittee from complying with any and all statutes, rules,
regulations, or ordinances which may be imposed by other government agencies (local, state, and federal)
which have jurisdiction.
4. In the event that the facilities fail to perform satisfactorily, including the creation of nuisance conditions,
the Permittee shall take immediate corrective action, including those as may be required by this Division,
such as the construction of additional or replacement stormwater management systems.
5. The permittee grants. DENR Staff permission to enter the property for the purpose of inspecting all
components of the permitted stormwater management facility.
6. The permit may be modified, revoked and reissued or terminated for cause. The filing of a request for a
permit modification, revocation and reissuance or termination does not stay any permit condition.
7. Unless specified elsewhere, permanent seeding requirements for the stormwater control must follow the
guidelines established in the North Carolina Erosion and Sediment Control Planning and Design Manual.
Permit issued this the 16th day of May, 2000.
NORTH CAROLINA ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
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Kerr T. Stevens, Director
Division of Water Quality
By Authority of the Environmental Management Commission
Permit Number SW8 980820
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State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 980820
The Thistle Golf Club
Stormwater Permit No. SW8 980820
Brunswick County
Designer's Certification
1, , as a duly registered in
the State of No Carolina, having been authorized to observe (periodically/weekly/full time) the construction of
the project,
- fDroject)
for (Project Owner) hereby state that, to the best of my abilities, due care
and diligence was used in the observation of the prof ect construction such that the construction was observed to be
built within substantial compliance and intent of the approved plans and specifications.
The checklist of items on page 2 of this form is included in the Certification.
Noted deviations from approved plans and specification:
Signature
Registration Number
Date
SEAL
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Permit No. SW8 980820
Certification Requirements:
1 • The drainage area to the system contains approximately the permitted acreage.
2. The drainage area to the system contains no more than the permitted amount of built -upon area.
3. All the built -upon area associated with the project is graded such that the runoff drains to the system.
4. The outlet/bypass structure elevations are per the approved plan.
5. The outlet structure is located per the approved plans.
6. Trash rack is provided on the outlet/bypass structure.
7. All slopes are grassed with permanent vegetation.
8. Vegetated slopes are no steeper than 3:1.
9. The inlets are located per the approved plans and do not cause short-circuiting of the system.
10. The permitted amounts of surface area and/or volume have been provided.
11. Required drawdown devices are correctly sized per the approved plans.
12. All required design depths are provided.
13. All required parts of the system are provided, such as a vegetated shelf, and a forebay.
14. The overall dimensions of the system, as shown on the approved plans, are provided.
cc: NCDENR-DWQ Regional Office
Delaney Aycock, Brunswick County Building Inspector
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Date Received
Fe�Pa Permit Number
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State of North Carolina
Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Water duality
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT APPLICATION FORM
This form may be photocopied for use as an original
I. GENERAL INFORMATION
I. Applicants name (specify the name of the corporation, individual, etc. who owns the project):
Morten Hansen III and Robert L. Hansen P.- -4, -fnel: h,
2. Print Owner/Signing Official's name and title (person legally responsible for facility and compliance):
Morten Hansen III, Partner
3. Mailing Address for person listed in item 2 above:
3 Gate 6 Carolina Shores
City: Cal aba h state: NC zip: 28467
Telephone Number: ( 910 5 7 5 -10 6 6
4. Project Name (subdivision, facility, or establishment name -should be consistent with project name on
plans, specifications, letters, operation and maintenance agreements, etc.):
hp iStla Gnlf Cl1J
5. Location of Project (street address):
R1163 and SR 1165
City: Calabash County: Brunswick
6. Directions to project (from nearest major intersection):
US 17 and NC Hwy 904, take NC _Hwy 904 south turn right on SR 1163,
nrniert is + 3 milPc on right
7. Latitude: 33 ° 5 5 ' Longitude: 780 33 ' of project
8. Contact person who can answer questions about the project:
Name: Morten Hansen III Telephone Number: ( 910 1 575-1066
II. PERMIT INFORMATION:
L Specify whether project is (check one): New Renewal X Modification
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2. If this application is being submitted as the result of a renewal or modification to an existing permit, list
existing pen Lit number SWR 9'7 1 5 -SWR- -9 8- R _ ? @nd its issue date (if known)3 / 4 / 9 7 & 114 / 1819 8
3. Specify the type of project (check on
-X_Low Density High Density Redevelop General Permit Other
4. Additional Project Requirements (check applicable blanks):
CAMA Major X Sedimentation/Erosion Control _404/401 Permit -X-NPDES Stormwater
Information on required state permits can be obtained by contacting the Customer Service Center at
1-877-623-6748.
III. PROJECT INFORMATION
1. In the space provided below, summarize how stormwater will be treated. Also attach a detailed narrative
(one to two pages) describing stormwater management for the project .
This permit is for the 27-hole golf course and ancillary facilities.
Stormwater will be treated via golf course pond storage meeting or
2. Stormwater runoff from this project drains to the
Lumber River basin.
3_ Total Project Area:
362.41 acres 4. Project Built Upon Area: 16.87 %
5. How many drainage areas does the project have?---2_
6. Complete the following information for each drainage area. If there are more than two drainage areas in the
project, attach an additional sheet with the information for each area provided in the same format as below.
1 �r'a stage lea 1
amage 2�2a � s�r�.1
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Basis � 1M� - %�s�€t
Shin letree Swam
Receiving Stream Name
Receiving Stream Class
C - SW
C - SW
Drainage Area
218.91
143.5
362.41
Existing Impervious* Area
16.07
0.0
33.72
11.35
61.14
Proposed Im ervious*Area
Impervious* Area (total)
a
On -site Buildings
Tr ea 1
image
6.11
2.84 2.25
9.81 14
2.77 4.78
5.89 3.14
0.0 0.0
Total: 27.42 33.72
D.raimg Axea w x
15,322
5.09
7.55
9.0
0.00
Total: 61.14
. 7__.271:_.. '1' "nrpivfa rz1'PQS.
on -site Streets
On -site Parking
On -site Sidewalks
Other on -site
Off -site
Impervious area is defined as the built upon area including, bur nor amireu ru, UULL14 25ai I V-11 r-- -
sidewalks, gravel areas, etc.
Form SWU-101 Version 3.99 Page 2 of 4

VI. SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS
Only complete application packages will be accepted and reviewed by the Division of Water Quality (DWQ).
A complete package includes all of the items listed below. The complete application package should be
submitted to the appropriate DWQ Regional Office.
Please indicate that you have provided the following required information by initialing in the space
provided next to each item.
• Original and one copy of the Stormwater Management Permit Application Form
■ One copy of the applicable Supplement Form(s) for each BMP
• Permit application processing fee of $420 (payable to NCDENR)
• Detailed narrative description of stormwater treatment/management
• Two copies of plans and specifications, including:
- Development/Project name
Engineer and firm
- Legend
- North arrow
- Scale
Revision number & date
- Mean high water line
- Dimensioned property/project boundary
- Location map with named streets or NCSR numbers
- Original contours, proposed contours, spot elevations, finished floor elevations
Details of roads, drainage features, collection systems, and stormwater control measures
- Wetlands delineated, or a note on plans that none exist
- Existing drainage (including off -site), drainage easements, pipe sizes, runoff calculations
- Drainage areas delineated
- Vegetated buffers (where required) ,
VU. AGENT AUTHORIZATION
If you wish to designate authority to another individual or firm so that they may provide information on your
behalf, please complete this section.
Designated agent (individual or firm): W. K. Dickson - Margaret G r a y
Mailing Address: 909 Market Street
City: Wilmington State: NO Zip: 28401
Phone: ( 910 ) 762-4200
VIII. APPLICANT'S CERTIFICATION
I, (print or type name of person listed i?i General Information, item 2) ; 6,f Te-itI /� N4/,1Se MA-? -
certify that the information included on this permit application form is, to the best of my knowledge, correct and
that the project will be constructed in conformance with the approved plans, that the required deed restrictions
and protective covenants will be recorded, and that the proposed project complies with the requirements of 15A
NCAC 2H .1000. Z
Signature:
Date:,, /"/
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V. How was the off -site impervious area listed above derived? N/A
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IV. DEED RESTRICTIONS AND PROTECTIVE COVENANTS
The following italicized deed restrictions and protective covenants are required to be recorded for all
subdivisions, outparcels and future development prior to the sale of any lot. If lot sizes vary significantly, a
table listing each lot number, size and the allowable built -upon area for each lot must be provided as an
attachment.
1. The following covenants are intended to ensure ongoing compliance with state stormwater management permit
number as issued by the Division of Water Quality. These covenants may
not be changed or deleted without the consent of the State.
unit
2. No more than 1500 sf /mf square feet of any Iot shall be covered by structures or impervious materials.
Impervious materials include asphalt, gravel, concrete, brick, stone, slate or similar material but do not include wood
decking or the water surface of swimming pools.
3. Swales shall not be filled in, piped, or altered except as necessary to provide driveway crossings.
4. Built -upon area in excess of the permitted amount requires a state stormwater management permit mod cation prior to
construction.
5. All permitted runoff from outparcels or future development shall be directed into the permitted stormwater control
system. These connections to the stormwater control system shall be performed in a manner that maintains the
integrity and performance of the system as permitted.
By your signature below, you certify that the recorded deed restrictions and protective covenants for this project
shall include all the applicable items required above, that the covenants will be binding on all parties and
persons claiming under them, that they will run with the land, that the required covenants cannot be changed or
deleted without concurrence from the State, and that they will be recorded prior to the sale of any lot.
V. SUPPLEMENT FORMS
The applicable state stormwater management permit supplement form(s) listed below must be submitted for
each BMP specified for this project. Contact the Stormwater and General Permits Unit at [phone] for the
status and availability of these forms.
Form SWU-102
Wet Detention Basin Supplement
Form SWU-103
Infiltration Basin Supplement
Form SWU-104
Low Density Supplement
Form SWU-105
Curb Outlet System Supplement
Form SWU-106
Off -Site System Supplement
Form SWU-107
Underground Infiltration Trench Supplement
Form SWU-108
Neuse River Basin Supplement
Form SWU-109
Innovative Best Management Practice Supplement
Form SWU-101 Version 3.99 Page 3 of 4

State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 980820
The Thistle Golf Club
Stormwater Permit No. SW8 980820
Brunswick County
Designer's Certification
M, H ^ z. a l } o, , as a duly registered 7ro {e s s o r. «.1 '
the State of North Carolina, having been authorized to observe (periodically/weekly/full ti e) �e conin
struction of
the project,
011 (Project)
for M o r + H a n s , (Project Owner) hereby state that, to the best of my abilities, due care
and diligence was used in the observation of the project construction such that the construction was observed to be
built within substantial compliance and intent of the approved plans and specifications.
The checklist of items on page 2 of this form is included in the Certification.
Noted deviations from approved plans and specification:
SEAL
Signature - ,� �� oa4ta1�e16taagd
,%,% E S R0 �4' Registration Number ©2 5 3 � -7 - O �ti
Date t%n� g SEAL
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Permit No. SW8 980820
Certification Requirements:
✓ 1. The drainage area to the system contains approximately the permitted acreage.
✓ 2. The drainage area to the system contains no more than the permitted amount of built -upon area.
✓ 3. All the built -upon area associated with the project is graded such that the runoff drains to the system.
✓4. The outlet/bypass structure elevations are per the approved plan.
Z5. The outlet structure is located per the approved plans.
✓ 6. Trash rack is provided on the outlet/bypass structure.
✓7. All slopes are grassed with permanent vegetation.
✓ 8. Vegetated slopes are no steeper than 3:1.
✓ 9. The inlets are located per the approved plans and do not cause short-circuiting of the system.
✓ 10. The permitted amounts of surface area and/or volume have been provided.
�11. Required drawdown devices are correctly sized per the approved plans.
✓ 12. All required design depths are provided.
MLA 13. All required parts of the system are provided, such as a vegetated shelf, and a forebay.
✓ 14. The overall dimensions of the system, as shown on the approved plans, are provided.
cc: NCDENR-DWQ Regional Office
Delaney Aycock, Brunswick County Building Inspector
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Permit No. jw 910 rao op
(to be provided by DWQ)
State of North Carolina
Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Water Quality
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT APPLICATION FORM
LOW DENSITY SUPPLEMENT
This form may be photocopied for use as an original
A low density project is one that meets the appropriate criteria for built upon area and transports stormwater
runoff primarily through vegetated conveyances. Low density projects should not have a discrete stormwater
collection system as defined by 15A NCAC 2H .1002(18). Low density requirements and density factors can
be found in 15A NCAC 2H .1005 through .1007.
I. PROJECT INFORMATION
Project Name :
The Thistle Golf Club
Contact Person: Wgffet Gray Phone Number: ( 910 ) 762-4200
Number of 4*ft: NF U11tS - 1208 Allowable Built Upon Area Perms: Lhit - 1500 sf
*It lot sizes are not uniform, attach a table indicating the number of lots, lot sizes and allowable built upon
area for each lot. The attachment must include the project name, phase, page numbers and provide area
subtotals and totals.
II. BUILT UPON AREA
See the Stormwater Management Permit Application for specific language that must be recorded in the deed
restrictions for all subdivisions.
For uniform lot sizes, complete the following calculation in the space provided below where:
• SA Site Area - the total project area above Mean High Water. Wetlands may be excluded when the
development results in high density pockets.
• DF Density Factor - the appropriate percent built upon area divided by 100.
• RA Road Area - the total impervious surface occupied by roadways.
• OA Other Area - the total area of impervious surfaces such as clubhouses, tennis courts, sidewalks, etc.
• No. Lots -- the total number of lots in the subdivision.
• BUA/Lot - the computed allowable built upon area for each lot including driveways and impervious
surfaces located between the front lot line and the edge of pavement.
Form SWU-104 Rev 3.99 Page 1 of 2

palrnlalinn-
(SA x DF) - RA - OA = BUA
No. Lots Lot
• •• :• •• 1 ••• I • W071 • • • -.6 S W. I• i 1 r
(401.26 x .30) - 5.09 ac - 40.73 = 74.55 = 2688 sf
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1208 W l.hits* 120E Lhit
Nate sine units are Mlti-stay a relad roof area will result, i.e. this rmEsents rraximm
=iticns
M. REQUIRED ITEMS CHECKLIST
Initial in the space provided to indicate that the following requirements have been met and supporting
documentation is provided as necessary. If the applicant has designated an agent on the Stormwater
Management Permit Application Form, the agent may initial below.
Applic is Initials
a. A 30 foot vegetative buffer is provided adjacent to surface waters. Projects in the Neuse
River basin may require additional buffers.
b. Deed restriction language as required on form SWU-101 shall be recorded as a restrictive
covenant. A copy of the recorded document shall be provided to DWQ within 30 days of
platting and prior to sale of any lots.
c. Built upon area calculations are provided for the overall project and all lots.
d. Project conforms to low density requirements within the ORW AEC (if applicable).
[15A NCAC 2H .1007(2)(b)]
Form SWU-104 Rev 3.99 Page 2 of 2

DIK CKSON
Engineers • Plgnners • Surveyors
L.,Ascape Architects
April 13, 2060
Ms. Linda Lewis
North Carolina Department of
Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Water Quality
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
RE: SW8 980820,Thistle Golf Course
DWQ Additional Information Request Dated 4/5/00
Brunswick County
WKD #90235.80
Dear Ms. Lewis:
APR 1 9 2000
BY: Sw a awzc)
W.K. Dickson submitted Additional Information for a Stortmwater Management Permit
Modification Application for the Thistle Golf Course to the Division of Water Quality on March
17, 2000. The purpose of this letter is to respond to your April 5, 2000 letter Acknowledgment of
Receipt and Request for Additional Information.
Attached are the written responses to your six comments. This submittal includes separate Wet
Detention Basin Supplements for the Phase I pond system and Phase II pond system. Revised
computation tables and Rational Method storage volume calculations sheets are attached. Table 4
includes the pond sediment removal elevation for each of the 14 ponds. The Supplements refer to
Table 4 for the Maintenance Agreement.
Sincerely,
W.K. Dickson & Co., Inc.
John M. Hazelton, P.E.
Project Engineer
cc: Mr. Morten Hansen, III, Thistle Golf Course
Ms. Margaret Gray, W.K. Dickson
Attachments, two (2) copies
Revised Wet Detention Basin Supplements
Rational Method Runoff Calculations
Table 1 Impervi.ous Calculation
Table 2 Individual Pond Storage Volume
Table 3 Required Depth of Storage in Pond System
Table 4 Wet Detention Basin Operation and Maintenance Agreement
Plan Sheet 2 of 2 with Weir Elevations
S.\PR0JECTS\90235\Hydro\DWQ Letter Response 4-12-00.doc
909 Market Street 910.762.4200
Wilmington, North Carolina Fax [phone]
28401 www.wkdickson.com
Atlanta, GA Hickory, NC
Asheville, NC Raleigh, NC
Charlotte, NC Columbia, SC

Table 4
Permit No. SW8 980820 Mod.
Thistle Golf Course
4/13/00
Wet Detention Basin Operation and Maintenance Agreement
Pond
Pond
Depth of
Permanent
Overflow
25-Year
25-Year
Pond
Pond
Bottom
Cleanout
Sediment
Water Surface
Weir/Pipe
Storm
Storm
System
Elevation
Elevation
Elevation
Elevation
Elevation
Depth
(ft, MSL)
(ft, MSL)
(ft)
(ft, MSL)
(ft, MSL)
(ft, MSL)
(ft)
A
1
39.5
41.0
1.5
45.5
46.82
46.82
1.32
B
1
38.4
39.9
1.5
44.4
45.82
45.72
1.32
C
1
38.5
40.0
1.5
44.5
45.82
45.82
1.32
D
1
39.8
41.3
1.5
45.8
47.12
47.12
1.32
E
1
40.4
41.9
1.5
46.4
47.72
47.72
1.32
F
1
40.4
41.9
1.5
46.4
47.72
47.72
1.32
G
1
40.4
41.9
1.5
46.4
47.72
47.72
1.32
T
2
40.5
42.0
1.5
46.5
48.59
48.59
2.09
U
2
40.5
42.0
1.5
46.5
48.59
48.59
2.09
V
2
40.5
42.0
1.5
46.5
48.59
48.59
2.09
W
2
39.5
41.0
1.5
45.5
47.59
47.59
2.09
X
1
36.2
37.7
1.5
42.2
46.40
43.52
1.32
Y
2
39.5 1
41.0 1
1.5
45.5
47.59 1
47.59
2.09
Z
2
39.5 1
41.0 1
1.5
45.5
47.59 1
47.59
2.09
Note: See Thistle DWQ Plan Sheet 2/2 for pond layout.
RECEI VVRD
APR 19 2000
DWQ
PROW #

Response to RECEIVED
NCDENR Division of Water Quality
Request for Additional Information APR 19 2000
April 13, 2000
DWQ
Thistle Golf Course, Brunswick County PROD #
Stormwater Project No. SW8 980820 Modification
Only 1 supplement was submitted for the pond system. If there are two different
drainage areas, you must provide two separate supplements, one for each pond
system. As previously requested, if there are pipes that connect the two systems
and allow them to act as one, please show and label them on the plans. Currently,
I can see no pipes between the pond systems that will allow them to act as one.
Response: The two pond systems are not connected. Two separate Wet Detention
Basin Supplements have been submitted for your review. Also included with this
submittal is Table 4 which provides details for the 14 individual ponds. Eight
ponds are interconnected in Phase I system and six ponds are interconnected in
Phase II.
Pond "C" has an outfall weir at 45.82 ft MSL to control water levels in the Phase I
pond system. Pond "Z" has an outfall weir at 47.59 ft MSL to control water levels
in the Phase II pond system. Ponds "D", "E", "V and "V" have weirs to control
the interconnected upstream pond levels. The upstream weirs are set at an
elevation to provide the required storage depth above the permanent pool
elevation. The Supplements include the outfall weir elevations for the pond
systems.
2. Please provide the bottom elevation on the supplement.
Response: The ponds were excavated to a minimum depth of 6.0 ft below the
permanent water level to prevent the growth of vegetation on the pond bottom.
Ponds excavated that contained quality material (sand) were excavated to depths
exceeding 8.0 ft. Table 4 provides the minimum bottom elevations for each pond.
3. Sediment accumulation in the ponds must be dealt with. As the construction
continues, the ponds may fill with sediment to the point that the required volume
can no longer be contained. Please specify cleanout elevations for the pond on
the supplement.
Response: Most of the 14 ponds will have a different sediment removal
elevations. Table 4 lists the sediment removal elevation for each pond. Table 4 is
an attachment to the Wet Detention Basin Operation and Maintenance Agreement
in the Supplements for the Phase I and II pond systems.
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4. Please provide the surface areas in the ponds at 1.32' above permanent pool for
Phase I and 2.09' above permanent pool for Phase II. Table 2 of the calculations
submitted on March 17, 2000, only goes up to 1.2' above permanent pool,
however, Table 3 goes up to 2.2'. Where did 2.2' come from? Using 2.2' above
permanent pool to prove that the required storage is provided is worthless if the
weirs are set at the lower 25-year storm elevations of 1.32' and 2.09' above
permanent pool. The calculations need to provide the areas at those elevations to
support the alternative design criteria. Please revise the supplements and
calculations to support each other.
Response: Pond system No. 1 has a permanent surface area of 1,393,570 f12 and a
temporary 25-Year surface area of 1,431,460 ft2. Pond system No. 2 has a
permanent surface area of 742,559 ft2 and a temporary 25-Year surface area of
765,120 ft2. The 2.2-ft was an arbitrary maximum elevation used in computations.
The ponds have a maximum side slope of 3:1 with surface areas and volumes
calculated using this assumption. The actual depths of 1.32 ft and 2.09 ft were
interpolated between the calculated depths to determine surface area and storage
volumes.
5. The lone supplement submitted, which indicated that it is for DA-1, shows a
temporary pool elevation at 1.6' above permanent pool. Should this elevation be
1.2', 1.32', or 2.2'? The narrative indicates that the elevation for DA-1 pond
system should be 1.32'.
Response: The revised supplements include a temporary pool elevation 1.32 feet
above the permanent pool for ponds in the Phase 1 pond system. The ponds in the
Phase II pond system have a temporary pool elevation 2.09 feet above the
permanent pool elevation.
It must be noted that the interconnected pond permanent pool elevations increase
moving upstream in the system. The upstream weirs are set at an elevation to
provide the required 25-Year storm storage. The plan sheets and Table 4 include
the weir elevations for the outfall weirs and for the interconnected pond weirs.
6. Please indicate how you arrived at the required runoff volumes for each phase.
Did you use the Rational runoff method, or Schuler's Method? Please show the
numbers and assumptions.
Response: The Rational Method was used to calculate the volume of runoff from
the pervious and impervious areas. Detailed calculations sheets are included with
this submittal. A runoff coefficient (C) of 0.2 was used for grassed areas and 0.95
was used for impervious areas. The 25-Year storm total rainfall depth is 8.0
inches.
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State of North Carolina
Department of Environment
and Natural Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
James B. Hunt, Jr., Governor
Bill Holman, Secretary
Division of Water Quality
April 5, 2000
Mr. Morten Hansen, III, Partner
3 Gate 6 Carolina Shores
Calabash, NC 28467
NCDENR
NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RE5OURCE5
Subject: ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF RECEIPT AND
REO VEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Stormwater Project No. SW8 980820 Modification
The Thistle Golf Club
Brunswick County
Dear Mr. Hansen:
The Wilmington Regional Office received a Stormwater Management Permit Application for The
Thistle Golf Club on March 17, 2000. A preliminary review of that information has determined that the
application is not complete. The following information is needed to continue the stormwater review:
l.. Only 1 supplement was submitted for the pond system. If there are two different drainage
areas, you must provide two separate supplements, one for each pond system. As previously
requested, if there are pipes that connect the two systems and allow them to act as one,
please show and label them on the plans: Currcntly, I can see no pipes between the pond
systems that will allow them to act as one.
2. Please provide the bottom elevation on the supplement.
3. Sediment accumulation in the ponds must be dealt with. As the construction continues, the
ponds may fill with sediment to the point that the required volume can no longer be
contained. Please specify cleanout elevations for the pond on the supplement. „ .
4. Please provide the surface areas in the ponds at 1.32' above permanent pool for Phase I and
2.09' above permanent pool for Phase H. Table 2 of the calculations submitted on March 17,
2000, only goes up to 1.2' above permanent pool, however, Table 3 goes up to 2.2'. Where
did the 2.2' come from? Using 2.2' above permanent pool to prove that the required storage
is provided is worthless if the weirs are set at the lower 25 year storm elevations of 1.32' and
2.09' above permanent pool. The calculations need to provide the areas'at those elevations to
support the alternative design criteria. Please revise the supplements and calculations to
support each other.
5. The lone supplement submitted, which indicates that it is for DA-1, shows a temporary pool
elevation at 1.6' above permanent pool. Should this elevation be 1.2', 1.32', or 2.2'? The
narrative indicates that the elevation for Dr,1 pond system should be 1.32'.
6. Please indicate how you arrived at the required runoff volumes for each phase. Did you use
the Rational runoff method, or Schuler's Method? Please slow the numbers.and
assumptions.
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Stormwater Project No. SW8 980820 Modification
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Please note that this request for additional information is in response to a preliminary review. The
requested information should be received by this Office prior to May 5, 2000, or the application will be
returned as incomplete. The return of a project will necessitate resubmittal of all required items, including
the application fee.
If you need additional time to submit the information, please mail or fax your request for a time
extension to the Division at the address and fax number at the bottom of this letter. The request must
indicate the date by which you expect to submit the required information. The Division is allowed 90
days from the receipt of a completed application to issue the permit.
The construction of any impervious surfaces, other than a construction entrance under an approved
Sedimentation Erosion Control Plan, is a violation of NCGS 143-215.1 and is subject to enforcement action
pursuant to NCGS 143-215.6A.
Please reference the State assigned project number on all correspondence. Any original documents
that need to be revised have been sent to the engineer or agent. All original documents must be returned or
new originals must be provided. Copies are not acceptable. If you have any questions concerning this
matter please feel free to call me at [phone].
Sincerely,
� I /
Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer
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LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL_._,
909 Market Street Wilmington, NC 28401 MAR 17 200
0
910.762.4200 0 FAX: [phone]
DATE: March 17, 2000 JOB NO.: 90235.80 BY. t
TO: NCDENR/DWQ
Division of Water Quality I RE: The Thistle Golf Club
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
ATTENTION: Linda Lewis
We are sending via:
Overnight Regular Mail 0 Pick-up F7x Hand Delivered
The following items:
Correspondence 0 Plans 0 Specifications xTI Other as listed below:
COPIES
DATE
NO.
DESCRIPTION
2
3/17/00
1 /2
Stormwater Master Plan (Site Layout)
2
12/13/99
2/2
Stormwater Master Plan (Topo)
2
3/17/00
1/1
Existing Site Plan of Clubhouse and Maintenance Area
2
3/14/00
DWQ Application
2
3/17/00
Wet Detention Basin Supplement
2
3/17/00
Stormwater Narrative
2
3/17/00
Impervious Calculation Table
2
3/17/00
Calculations and Graphs
THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked below:
BFor Approval
For your use
REMARKS
As requested e Approved as submitted R Returned for corrections
x For review and comment Approved as noted Forward to subcontractor
COPY TO: File, Morten Hasen
SIGNED:

The Thistle Golf Course
Stormwater Narrative $ Cku(2h'o's
March 17, 2000
W ,D #90235.80
The Thistle Golf Club presently has two low density stormwater permits for limited
roadway construction within the Phase I and Phase II areas. These permit numbers
respectively are SW8 970135 and SW8 980820.
The purpose of the submittal is to complete a Master Stormwater Plan and consolidate the
aforementioned permits into a new single permit. Existing and proposed built -upon areas
will be recognized to calculate an.overall low density project..
The property comprises a total of 401.26 acres, 38.85 acres of reserved wetland
preservation has been removed from the total for runoff calculations. The total built -out
area is 61.41 acres and the total grass area is 301.27 acres. A summary of impervious area
calculations is provided in Table 1. The Golf Club property has a total impervious
percentage of 16.87%. The Golf Course layout may be reviewed in Exhibit 1.
The proposed stormwater runoff treatment will be non -discharging retention ponds. The
ponds will hold the 8.0 inches of the 25-Year storm. Stormwater will be released from the
system only above the initial 8.0 inches of rainfall. This stormwater will be used to
irrigate the golf course and will dissipate by infiltration and evaporation. There are seven
interconnected ponds in Phase I and six interconnected ponds in Phase II. The storage
volume for each pond is listed in Table 2. The attached graphs extrapolates the storage
volume to 2.2 ft above normal pool level. Runoff volume was calculated using the
Rational Method with results in Table 3. The pond surface areas were digitized from the
contour map in Exhibit 2. Pond side slopes were set at 3:1.
The runoff volume from 8.0 inches of rainfall was calculated to be 1,870,000 cubic feet
for Phase I and 1,570,000 for Phase H. Water levels in the ponds of Phase I reached 1.32
feet above normal pool level to store the 25-Year storm runoff. Water levels for ponds in
Phase II increase 2.09 feet above normal pool level. Batter boards at the outfall weir of
Phase I will be set 1.32 ft above the existing normal pool elevation of 44.5 ft NGVD. The
batter boards at the outfall weir for Phase II will be set 2.09 ft above the normal pool
elevation of 45.5 ft NGVD. For 1.0 inches of rainfall the pond levels were 0.17 and 0.26
feet above normal pool for Phase I and II respectively.
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Engineering 909 Market Street
Land Planning Wilmington, NC 28409
Surveying [phone]
THISTLE GOLF COURSE — BRUNSWICK COUNTY— SW898020 Mod.
PHASF, Nn_ 1
TOTAL AREA DRAINING TO POND SYSTEM PHASE No. 1 = 218.91 AC
TOTAL PROPOSED/EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA DRAINING TO POND:
BUILDINGS = 6.11 AC
PAVED/GRAVEL STREETS = 2.84 AC
PARKING AREAS = 9.81 AC
SIDEWALKS = 2.77 AC
CART PATHS = 5 R9 AC
= 27.42 ACRES
PERCENT IMPERVIOUS DRAINAGE AREA FOR POND:
= 27.42 AC / 218.91 AC
= 12.53 %
REQUIRED STORAGE FOR 8-INCH OF RUNOFF FOR POND: (use Rational Method, Q=CIA)
For Grassed Areas Runoff Coefficient, C = 0.20
Rainfall Intensity, I = 8.00 inches (Total 25-Year Storm Depth)
Area, A = 191.49 AC
= CIA
= (0.20)(8.00 In / 12.00 In )(191.49)
= 25.53 AC -FT
= 1,112,174 CF
For Built -Upon Areas Runoff Coefficient, C = 0.95
Rainfall Intensity, I = 8.00 inches (Total 25-Year Storm Depth)
Area, A = 27.42 AC
= CIARECEIVEJJ
_ (0.95)(8.00 / 12.00 In)(27.42)
= 17.37 AC -FT APR 19 2000
— 756,463 CF
,
Total Volume of Runoff = 1,112,174 CF + 756,463 CF PROJ # Scz`1$O $ZO
=1,868,637 CF
PROJECT: THISTLE GOLF COURSE SUBJECT: POND CALCULATIONS JOB NO.: 90235.80
PREPARED BY: M N DATE: y �Z -to CHECKED BY: DATE: PAGE NO OF

WK DICKSON
Engineering 909 Market Street
Land Planning Wilmington, NC 28409
Surveying [phone]
THISTLE GOLF COURSE — BRUNSWICK COUNTY — SW898020 Mod.
PHASE Nn_ 2
TOTAL AREA DRAINING TO POND SYSTEM PHASE No. 2 = 143.5 AC
TOTAL PROPOSED/EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA DRAINING TO POND:
BUILDINGS = 9.21 AC
PAVED/GRAVEL STREETS = 2.25 AC
PARKING AREAS = 14.34 AC
SIDEWALKS = 4.78 AC
CART PATHS = 3.14 AC
= 33.72 ACRES
PERCENT IMPERVIOUS DRAINAGE AREA FOR POND:
= 33.72 AC / 143.5 AC
= 23.50 %
REQUIRED STORAGE FOR 8-INCH OF RUNOFF FOR POND: (use Rational Method, Q=CIA)
For Grassed Areas Runoff Coefficient, C = 0.20
Rainfall Intensity, I = 8.00 inches (Total 25-Year Storm Depth)
Area, A = 109.78 AC
= CIA
= (0.20)(8.00 In / 12.00 In)(109.78)
= 14.64 AC -FT
= 637,602 CF
For Built -Upon Areas Runoff Coefficient, C = 0.95
Rainfall Intensity, I = 8.00 inches (Total 25-Year Storm Depth)
Area, A = 33.72 AC
= CIA
= (0.95)(8.00 In / 12.00 In)(33.72)
= 21.36 AC -FT
= 930,267 CF
Total Volume of Runoff=1,112,174 CF + 7569463 CF
=1,567,870 CF
PROJECT: THISTLE GOLF COURSE SUBJECT: POND CALCULATIONS JOB NO.: 90235.80
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Table 2
(Revised 4/13/00)
THISTLE GOLF COURSE - BRUNSWICK COUNTY, NC
DETERMINATION OF REQUIRED WATER QUALITY STORAGE
Existing Phase 1
Pond
Ht. Above
Area
Volume
Normal Pool
(sq ft)
(cu ft)
A
0
41,310.8
0.0
0.1
41,482.0
4,139.6
0.2
41,653.2
8,296.4
0.3
41,824.4
12,470.3
0.6
42,338.0
25,094.6
0.9
42,851.5
37,873.1
1.2
43,365.1
50,805.6
1.4
43,707.5
59,273.1
B
0
108,723.2
0.0
0.1
108,902.1
10,881.3
0.2
109,081.0
21,780.4
0.3
109,259.9
32,697.5
0.6
109,797.2
65,556.0
0.9
110,335.1
98,575.9
1.2
110,873.6
131,757.2
1.4
111, 2 32.0
153,716.7
C
0
500.689.2
0.0
0.1
501,573.4
50,113.1
0.2
502,547.9
100,319.2
0.3
503,522.4
150,622.7
0.6
506,446.1
302,118.0
0.9
509,370.1
454,490.4
1.2
512,294.4
607,740.1
1.4
514,228.6
709,030.1
D
0
149,394.0
0.0
0.1
149,855.3
14,962.5
0.2
150,316.7
29,971.1
0.3
150,778.2
45,025.8
0.6
152,162.9
90,467.0
0.9
153, 548.2
136, 323.6
1.2
154, 9 34.1
182, 596.0
1.4
155,857.5
213,028.6
E
0
123,396.7
0.0
0.1
123, 674.3
12, 353.6
0.2
123,951.9
24,734.9
0.3
124,229.7
37,143.9
0.6
125,063.2
74,537.9
0.9
125,897.4
112,182.0
1.2
126,732.1
150,076.4
1.4
127,288.0
175,089.1
F
0
55,255.0
0.0
0.1
55,370.8
5,531.3
0.2
55,486.6
11,074.2
0.3
55,602.4
16,628.6
0.6
55,950.3
33,361.5
0.9
56,298.5
50,198.8
1.2
56,647.2
67,140.7
1.4
56,879.2
78,330.8
G
0
350,363.4
0.0
0.1
350, 893.1
35, 062.8
0.2
351,422.5
70,178.6
0.3
351,952.1
105,347.3
0.6
353,540.1
211,171.2
0.9
355,127.7
317,471.3
1.2
356,714.7
424,247.7
1.4
357,773.3
494,955.6
X
0
64,438.0
0.0
(Phase 1)
0.1
64,605.8
6,452.2
0.2
64,773.7
12,921.2
0.3
64,941.7
19,406.9
0.6
65,446.0
38,965.1
0.9
65,951.0
58,674.6
1.2
66,456.6
78,535.8
1.4
66,793.0
91,625.11
Proposed Phase 2
Pond
Ht. Above
Area
Volume
Normal Pool
(sq ft)
(cu ft)
Z
0
57,404.5
0.0
0.1
57,547.7
5,747.6
0.2
57,691.1
11,509.6
0.3
57,834.4
17,285.8
0.6
58,264.9
34,700.7
0.9
58,696.0
52,244.9
1.2
59,127.7
69,918.4
1.5
59,558.5
87,398.0
1.8
59,989.3
104,877.6
2.1
60,420.1
122,357.2
Y
0
43,501.2
0.0
0.1
43,638.7
4,357.0
0.2
43,776.3
8,727.7
0.3
43,913.9
13,112.3
0.6
44,327.1
26,348.4
0.9
44,740.9
39,708.6
1.2
45,155.3
53,193.0
1.5
45.568.8
66,491.3
1.8
45,982.4
79,789.6
2.1
46,395.9
93,087.8
W
0
21,284.3
0.0
0.1
21,358.0
2,132.1
0.2
21,431.7
4,271.6
0.3
21,505.4
6,418.5
0.6
21,727.1
12,903.3
0.9
21,949.4
19,454.8
1.2
22,172.2
26,073.0
1.5
22,394.2
32,591.3
1.8
22,616.2
39,109.6
2.1
22,838.1
45,627.8
V
0
39,939.0
0.0
0.1
40,031.3
3,998.5
0.2
40,123.6
8,006.3
0.3
40,216.0
12,023.2
0.6
40,493.5
24,129.7
0.9
40,771.6
36,319.4
1.2
41,050.3
48,592.7
1.6
41,328.1
60,740.9
1.8
41,606.0
72,889.1
2.1
41,883.8
85,037.3
U
0
82,121.4
0.0
0.1
82,347.0
8,223.4
0.2
82,572.7
16,469.4
0.3
82,798.5
24,738.0
0.6
83,476.1
49,679.2
0.9
84,154.3
74,823.7
1.2
84,833.0
100,171.8
1.5
85,510.9
125,214.8
1.8
86,188.8
150,257.7
2.1
86, 866.7
175, 300.7
T
0
498,308.3
0.0
0.1
498,718.0
49,851.3
0.2
499,127.7
99,743.6
0.3
499,537.5
149,676.9
0.6
500,767.3
299,722.6
0.9
501,997.7
450,137.3
1.2
503,228.6
600,921.3
1.5
504,458.7
751,151.6
1.8
505,688.8
901, 381.9
2.1
506,918.8
1,051,612.2
Project Number 90235.80

Table 3
(Revised 4/13/00)
THISTLE GOLF COURSE - BRUNSWICK COUNTY, NC
DETERMINATION OF REQUIRED WATER QUALITY STORAGE
25-Year Design Storm (8.0 inches)
Phase I Phase II
Total Storage of Pond System Total Storage of Pond System
Ponds Ht. Above
Area
Volume
Normal Pool
(sq ft)
(cu ft)
All 0
1,393,570
0
0.1
1,396,357
139,496
0.2
1,399,234
279,276
0.3
1,402,111
419,343
0.6
1,410,744
841,271
0.9
1,419,380
1,265,790
1.2
1,428,018
1,692,899
1.4
1,433,759
1,975,049
Ponds Ht. Above
Normal Pool
Area
(sq ft)
Volume
(cu ft)
All 0
742,559
0
0.1
743,641
74,310
0.2
744,723
148,728
0.3
745,806
223,255
0.6
749,056
447,484
0.9
752,310
672,689
1.2
755,567
898,870
1.5
758,819
1,123,588
1.8
762,071
1,348,305
2.1
765,323
1,573,023
Phase I Runoff Volume Calculations - Rational Method
Phase I - Calculation of Required Storage - 18 Hole Golf Course
Area
"C" factor
Rainfall
Runoff
(ac)
(in)
(ac ft`,
(cu ft)
Grass 191.49
0.20
8.0
25.53
1,112,174
Built upon 27.42
0.95
8.0
17.37
756,463
Total 218.91
0.29
8.0
42.90
1,868,637
Phase II Runoff Volume Calculations - Rational Method
Phase II - Calculation of Required Storage - 9 Hole Golf Course
Area
"C" factor
Rainfall
Runoff
(ac)
(in)
(ac ft)
(cu ft)
Grass 109.78
0.20
8.0
14.64
637,602
Built upon 33.72
0.95
8.0
21.36
930,267
Total 143.5
0.38
8.0
35.99
1,567,870
Phase I
Phase II
Depth of Required Storage = 1.32 Ft Above Normal Pool
Elevation of Outfall Weir = 45.82 Ft MSL
Storage Surface Area = 1,431,460 Sq. Ft.
Depth of Required Storage e 2.09 Ft Above Normal Pool
Elevation of Outfall Weir = 47.59 Ft MSL
Storage Surface Area = 765,120 Sq. Ft.
Note: 38.85 acres of wetland nature preserve not included in calculations.
Project Number 90235.80 1

P, W K
DICKSON
Engineers • Plgnners •Surveyors
LanAscape Architects
February 3, 2000
Ms. Linda Lewis
NCDENR/DWQ
127 Cardinal Dr. Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
RE: Thistle Golf Club
Brunswick County
SW8 980820 Modification
Additional Information Time Extension
WKD 90235.80 (1)
Dear Ms. Lewis:
FEB 0 7 2000
We are in receipt of the additional information request dated Jan. 26, 2000. In
reviewing the needed information, we would like to request a time extension to
respond to these items.
Item 1, Clubhouse and Maintenance areas, necessitates fieldwork from a survey
crew to develop as-buiIts. We wish to continue to dernonstrate our willingness to
cooperate with DWQ. (The survey crew was in the field on this project while this
was transcribed.) However, we don't feel we can complete your request for this
information by Feb. 26, 2000.
1--'onsequently, vve are requesting an extension for a submittal deadline of
March 15, 2000. Should this be unsatisfactory with you, please let us know.
Sincerely,
W.K. Dickson & Co., Inc.
Margaret Gray
CC: Morton Hansen/Thistle Golf Club
John Hazelwood/W.K. Dickson
909 Market Street 910.762.4200 Atlanta, GA Hickory, NC
Wilmington, North Carolina Fax [phone]Q1 Asheville, NC Raleigh, NC
28401 www.wkdickson.com Charlotte, NC Columbia, SC

State .of North Carolina
bepartment of Environment
and Natural Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
James B. Hunt, Jr., Governor
Bill Holman, Secretary
Division of Water Quality
January 26, 2000
Mr. Morton Hansen, III, Partner
Morten Hansen, III and Robert L. Hansen, Partners
3 Gate 6 Carolina Shores
Calabash, NC 28467
Dear Mr. Hansen:
L
F4CDENR
NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENT AND N,QURAL RESOURCES
Subject: ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF RECEIPT AND
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Stormwater Project No. SW8 980820 Modification
The Thistle Golf Club
Brunswick County
The Wilmington Regional Office received a Stormwater Management Permit Application for The
Thistle Golf Club on December 17, 1999. A preliminary review of that information has determined that the
application is not complete. The following information is needed to continue the stcrmwater review:
1. As previously requested, please provide site plans for the existing Phase I Clubhouse and
Maintenance areas. These areas must be reviewed to make sure the grading is appropriate and
to verify built -upon area. The plans must include all required elements, as outlined in the rules,
including built -upon areas, drainage areas, details, dimensions, grading, etc. This item is not to
be considered superfluous to the application. Please remember that Phases I and II were
approved for roads only, so none of the impervious construction on this project, other than the
roads, is permitted. The proj ect is currently in violation of NCGS 143-215.1. Because you have
demonstrated a willingness to cooperate, this Office has not pursued enforcement action,
however, that can change. If the DWQ decides to pursue enforcement, all building permits and
CO's will be withheld. These plans are required in order to obtain this permit.
2. Based on the maps provided, there are two separate pond systems, one each for Phase I and
Phase H. Please provide a completed supplement for each system, or show on the plans the
hydraulic connection between the two which allows them to act as one. If there are indeed two
separate drainage systems, please complete three columns of the application, one for each
system, and one demonstrating the overall low density of the project. The supplement also
serves as the Operation and Maintenance plan, so it needs to provided.
3. Due to their clustered location on the north side of the site, the wetlands must be removed from
the site area reported on the application in order to avoid creating a pocket of high density.
Please provide a new page 2 ofthe application.
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4. Please complete each blank on the supplement, based on the total anticipated build -out. For the
orifice, please indicate that an overflow weir is provided, and report the temporary storage
elevation as the weir overflow elevation. The temporary storage volume would be the total
volume above permanent pool that the system can store without discharging, ie., @6" above
permanent pool. The design storm would be the 25 year storm, or 8". A permit cannot be issued
if the supplement is not provided. Again, this project is in violation, so you really need to get
this information submitted in order to obtain the necessary permit.
5. The roads, in Phase I and Phase II were approved with side ditches, not with curb and gutter, as
suggested in Ms. Gray's letter of December 17,1999. According to the road details provided on
the approved plans on file, none of the roads were proposed with curb and gutter, so no
treatment was required, therefore, no treatment system (including the pond system) was
permitted. The concept of the non -discharging pond system was acceptable, but was not
permitted at that time.
6. I have enclosed the original page 4 for initialing. Copies are not acceptable. Please return the
revised original, or provide a new original.
7. The pond design calculations must be based on the proposed total build -out of 61.14 acres, not
the current 16.87 acres. If the Division has a maximum amount of built -upon area to begin with,
permitting and tracking of future projects becomes faster and easier. We simply subtract the
proposed BUA for the individual project from the overall permitted.
8. As far as stormwater treatment is concerned, there are few guidelines for this type of system,
but, if it is proposed as a non -discharging, you need to demonstrate that the 25 year storm can
be caught and contained in the pond system. Please provide the surface area for each pond at 6"
above the permanent pool, and calculate the storage provided at 6". The pond information
currently submitted only goes up to 0.2' above permanent pool, but the narrative indicates that
storage up to 6" is provided. I cannot verify the claim that sufficient storage for the 25 year
storm exists without the data to back it up. Simply saying you have it is not good enough.
Please note that this request for additional information is in response to a preliminary review. The
requested information should be received by this Office prior to February 26, 2000, or the application will be
returned as incomplete. The return of a project will necessitate resubmittal of all required items, including the
application fee.
If you need additional time to submit the information, please mail or fax your request for a time
extension to the Division at the address and fax number at the bottom of this letter. The request must indicate
the date by which you expect to submit the required information. The Division is allowed 90 days from
the receipt of a completed application to issue the permit.
The construction of any impervious surfaces, other than a construction entrance under an approved
Sedimentation Erosion Control Plan, is a violation ofNCGS 143-215.1 and is subject to enforcement action
pursuant to NCGS 143-215.6A.
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Mr. Hansen
January 26, 2000
Stormwater Project No. SW8 980820 Modification
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To avoid confusion, please reference the State assigned project number on all correspondence. Any
original documents that need to be revised have been sent to the engineer or agent. All original documents must
be returned or new originals must be provided. Copies are not acceptable. If you have any questions concerning
this matter please feel free to call me at [phone].
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Sincerely,
Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer
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Margaret Gray
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127 Cardinal Dr Ext
Wilmington, NC 28405
ATTENTION: Linda Lewis
We are sending you: �x Attached Under separate
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The following items: Shop Drawings x Prints
Specifications B Copy of Letter
LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL
STORMWATER
DATE: 12/17/99 JOB NO.: 90235.80(I)
RE: The Thistle Golf Club — Additional Information Request
SW8 980820
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1/2
2
12/13/99
2/2
Site Topo
Permit Application w/initials
i
4/4
1
12/17/99
Revised Stormwater Narrative
1
12/17/99
Detailed Responses to the Add'1 Info Request
1
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Returned for corrections
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COPY TO: Mort Hansen/Thistle, file SIGNED:

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gipt�eers • P nners •Surveyors
landscape Architects
December 17, 1999
NCDENR / DWQ
Ms. Linda Lewis
127 Cardinal Drive
Wilmington, NC 28405
Re: Thistle Golf Club
Brunswick County
SW8 980820
WKD #90235.80
Dear Linda:
In response to your additional information request dated November 17, 19991
we are providing a revised stormwater narrative, an April 7, 1999 e-mail
correspondence and direct answers to your questions as provided below. It
seemed that I needed to expand the stormwater narrative to help understand
the project design concept.
Please provide site plans for the existing Clubhouse and Maintenance
areas. The plans should include all required elements as listed in the
rules, including dimension, grading, drainage, details, a supplement
form for the wet pond or other engineered control that will treat the
runoff, and calculations which cover the required and provided surface
areas, depth, elevations, volumes, etc.
The clubhouse and maintenance facilities are shown to drain to
one of the 32 acres of golf course ponds. The calculations show
that 0.13' (2") of storage above the normal pool will provide the
required storage of stormwater run-off. Since the weirs are
actually 6" above the normal pool this is ample storage. This
system provides equal or better stormwater control, provides 85%
tss at a minimum and the pre and post development discharge
rates are managed. For these reasons the wet pond supplement
appeared inappropriate and has been excluded.
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Wilmington, North Carolina Fax [phone] Asheville, NC Raleigh, NC
28401 www.wkdickson.com Charlotte, NC Columbia, SC

Linda Lewis
December 17, 1999
Page 2 of 4
2. Will there be any single family lot development? From the table and
footnotes, it appears that only high -density condominium type
development is proposed. What exactly is being offered to the buyer
regarding the amount of land being purchased? Will buyer be able to
add things such as additional rooms, garages, sheds, etc.?
The site plan provided conforms to what was approved through
Brunswick County's review boards. I would expect if market
demands change the development concept will change. In either
case restrictive covenants will dictate the built -upon limits.
3. The typical road section detail incorrectly shows each lane width as 10',
including the curb and gutter. I believe the dimension arrow needs to
be relocated to exclude the 2' curb and gutter section.
You are correct and the puns have been modified.
4. Does the site area reported include the wetlands?
Yes the project site area includes 38.85 acres of wetlands. If you
subtract this the revised impervious coverage equates to 5.8%
overall.
5. Locate each pond in a recorded access/drainage easement.
Each pond will be located in a drainage easement.
6. Please initial page 4 of 4 of the application.
This has been done and the page is attached.
7. Since the roads are curb and gutter, you will need to provide 100' long,
5:1 side slope curb outlet swales at regular intervals along the roads,
for those portions of the road not collected and treated in an engineered
facility. If portions of the road are not collected and treated in a pond,
please provide plans which show the locations of the curb outlet
swales, the existing and proposed grades, the proposed inverts in and

Linda Lewis
December 17, 1999
Page 3 of 4
out, velocity calculations, and completed supplement form for a curb
OR outlet system.
All portions of the roads are treated in one of the 32 acres of golf
course ponds. Their treatment methodology was approved earlier
with permits SW8 970135 and SW8 980820.
8. Please provide an overall drainage area for each pond and each swale.
It is not necessary to show individual catch basin drainage areas, only
the overall drainage area to a single pond or swale.
The drainage areas for the built -upon areas and respective
treatment ponds are shown. The future development areas have
been included in the water quality storage calculations but their
routing is undefined at this time.
9. Please provide road profiles, or indicate the high and iow points of the
roads on the plans. Please label the specific elevations for the highs
and lows.
The high point and low point elevations have been added to the
enclosed plans.
10. Please show all needed details for the ponds and curb outlet swales.
Include vegetation type, slopes, elevations, forebay, etc.
The ponds are 32 acres of golf course features supporting
treatment as an alternative design option. Slopes and elevations
are provided on Sheet 2. Vegetation is hybrid bermuda and native
grasses.
11. Please provide a typical, dimensioned footprint of the proposed
buildings. Label the wood deck areas, and the concrete patio areas, if
any.
Typical dimensions for the 1500 sf units are 30' x 50'. Within the
50' length is an 8' concrete patio for ground units and an 8' Wood
deck for elevated units.

Linda Lewis
December 17, 1999
Page 4 of 4
I would be more than happy to meet with you directly to help with clarifications.
Very Truly Yours,
WK Dickson & Co., Inc.
a P "
Margaret A. Gray, ASLA
MAGlams
cc: Mort Hansen/Thistle Golf Club
File
&1projects/90235/admin/1 lewis 12-17-99.doc

The Thistle Golf Club
Stormwater Narrative
(Revised December 17, 1999)
WKD# 90235.80
The Thistle Golf Club presently has two low density stormwater permits for
limited roadway construction within the Phase I and Phase II areas. These
permit numbers respectively are SW8 970135 and SW8 980820.
The purpose of this submittal is to complete a Master Stormwater Plan and
consolidate the aforementioned permits into a new single permit. Existing and
proposed built -upon areas will be recognized to calculate an overall low density
project.
This immediate request is for the cart paths to serve a 27-hole golf course,
course restrooms to serve a 27-hole golf course, golf pro -shop / cart storage and
parking, the maintenance facility and some ancillary structures. This project
portion is a low density concept with enhanced treatment via golf course pond
storage. Please refer to the water quality storage calculations. These
calculations actually take into account the entire design concept, not just the
impervious amounts for the features listed above. Consequently the proposed
build -out of the development with a built -upon of 16.87 acres is effectively treated
in the 32 acres of golf course ponds. It is shown that these collective golf course
ponds provide equal or better stormwater control, provide a minimum 85% tss
and discharge rates for pre and post development conditions are managed. The
depth of required storage for project build -out is 0.13 feet above normal pool.
Sheet 2 of 2 illustrates that we have an average of 0.5 feet based on weir
elevations. By and large the water never leaves the site. This satisfies an
innovative system meeting or exceeding the alternative design criteria.
Subsequent stormwater submittals will be made as the property is developed.
Where discreet areas exceed 30% built -upon individual stormwater treatment
systems will be provided.

Department of Environment
and Natural Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
James B. Hunt, Jr., Governor
Bill Holman, Secretary
Division of Water Quality
November 17, 1999
Mr. Morton Hansen, III, Partner
Morten Hansen, III and Robert L. Hansen, Partners
3 Gate 6 Carolina Shores
Calabash, NC 28467
Dear Mr. Hansen:
1�
NCDENRI&
NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
Subject: ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF RECEIPT AND
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Stormwater Project No. SW8 980820 Modification
The Thistle Golf Club
Brunswick County
The Wilmington Regional Office received a modification to the Stormwater Management Permit
Application for The Thistle Golf Club on September 27, 1999. A preliminary review of that information has
determined that the application is not complete.. The following information is needed to continue the
stormwater review:
Please provide site plans for the existing Clubhouse and Maintenance areas. The plans should
include all required elements as listed in the rules, including dimensions, grading, drainage,
details, a supplement form for the wet pond or other engineered control that will treat the runoff,
and calculations which cover the required and provided surface areas, depth, elevations,
volumes, etc.
2. Will there be any single family lot development? From the table and footnotes, it appears that
only high -density condominium type development is proposed. What exactly is being offered
to the buyer regarding the amount of land being purchased? Will the buyer be able to add things
such as additional rooms, garages, sheds, etc.?
3. The typical road section detail incorrectly shows each lane width as 10', including the curb and
gutter. I believe the dimension arrow needs to be relocated to exclude the 2' curb and gutter
section.
4. Does the site area reported include the wetlands?
5. Locate each pond in a recorded access/drainage easement.
6. Please initial page 4 of 4 of the application.
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Mr. Hansen
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Stormwater Project No
SW8 980820 Modification
7. Since the roads are curb and gutter, you will need to provide 100' long, 5:1 side slope curb outlet
swales at regular intervals along the roads, for those portions of the road not collected and
treated in an engineered facility. If portions of the road are not collected and treated in a pond,
please provide plans which show the locations of the curb outlet swales, the existing and
proposed grades, the proposed inverts in and out, velocity calculations, and a completed
supplement form for a curb outlet system.
8. Please provide an overall drainage area for each pond and each swale. It is not necessary to
show.individual catch basin drainage areas, only the overall drainage area to a single pond or
swale.
9. Please provide road profiles, or indicate the high and low points of the roads on the plans. Please
label the specific elevations for the highs and lows.
10. Please show all needed details for the ponds and curb outlet swales. Include vegetation type,
slopes, elevations, forebay, etc.
11. Please provide a typical, dimensioned footprint of the proposed buildings. Label the wood deck
areas, and the concrete patio areas, if any.
Please note. that this request for additional information is in response to a preliminary review. The
requested information should be received by this Office prior to December 17, 1999, or the application will
be returned as incomplete. Another review will take place based on the information submitted. The return of
a prof ect will necessitate resubmittal of all required items, including the application fee. The Division is allowed
90 days from the receipt of a completed application to issue the permit.
The construction of any impervious surfaces, other than a construction entrance under an approved
Sedimentation Erosion Control Plan, is a violation of NCGS 143-215.1 and is subject to enforcement action
pursuant to NCGS 143-215.6A.
Please reference the State assigned project number on all correspondence. If you have any questions
concerning this matter please feel free to call me at [phone].
Sincerely,
0
Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer
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cc: Linda Lewis
Margaret Gray
127 Cardinal Dr. Ext., Wilmington, North Carolina 28405 Telephone [phone] FAX [phone]
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L. W K
W DICKSON
Engineers . Planners. Surveyors
L.anduapeArchitects
909 Market Street
Wilmington, NC 28401
[phone] CP FAX:[phone]
TO: NCDENR/DWQ
Division of Water Quality
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
ATTENTION: Linda Lewis
We are sending you: 0 Attached
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DATE: Sept. 24, 1999 JOB NO.: 90235.80(1)
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9/3/99
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Stormwater Master Plan (Site layout)
2
9/3/99
2 of 2
Stormwater Master Plan (topo)
1
9/24/99
Stormwater Narrative
1
8/30/99
DWQ Application
1
Low Density Supplement
1
8/19/99
Impervious Calculation Table
1
9/24/99
Calculations
1
9/2/99
Check 2458 $420.00
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We met on this several months ago and discussed the stormwater concept. At the time we were waiting on the topo work
so we could complete the submittal. Let me know if you need anything else. Hope you did well with the hurricane.
COPY TO: File, Morten Hansen SIGNED:

W. K. DICKSON
THISTLE GOLF COURSE - BRUNSWICK COUNTY, NC
DETERMINATION OF REQUIRED WATER QUALITY STORAGE
Existing
Pond
Ht. Above
Area
Voiume
Normal Pool
(sq ft)
(cu ft)
A
0
41,310.8
0.1
41,482.0
4,139.6
0.2
41,653.2
8,296.4
B
0
108,723.2
0.1
108,902.1
10, 881.3
0.2
109,081.0
21,780.4
C
0
500,689.2
0.1
501,573.4
50,113.1
0.2
502,547.9
100,319.2
D
0
149,394.0
0.1
149, 855.3
14, 962.5
0.2
150,316.7
29,971.1
E
0
123,396.7
0.1
123, 674.3
12,353.6
0.2
123,951.9
24,734.9
F
0
55,255.0
0.1
55,370.8
5,531.3
0.2
55,486.6
11,074.2
G
0
350,363.4
0.1
350, 893.1
35, 062.8
0.2
351,422.5
70,178.6
Proposed
Pond
Ht. Above
Area
Volume
Normal Pool
(sq ft)
(cu ft)
Z
0
57,404.5
0.1
57,547.7
5,747.6
0.2
57,691.1
11,509.6
Y
0
43,501.2
0.1
43,638.7
4,357.0
0.2
43,776.3
8,727.7
X
0
64,438.0
0.1
64,605.8
6,452.2
0.2
64,773.7
12,921.2
W
0
21,284.3
0.1
21,358.0
2,132.1
0.2
21,431.7
4,271.6
V
0
39,939.0
0.1
40,031.3
3,998.5
0.2
40,123.6
8,006.3
U
0
82,121.4
0.1
82,347.0
8,223.4
0.2
82,572.7
16,469.4
T
0
498,308.3
0.1
498,718.0
49,851.3
0.2
499,127.7
99,743.6
Total Storage Existing Ponds Total Storage Proposed Ponds
Ponds Ht. Above Volume Ponds Ht. Above Volume
Normal Pool (cu ft) Normal Pool (cu ft)
All 0 0.0 All 0 0.0
0.1 133,044.2 0.1 80,762.2
0.2 266,354.71 0.2 161,649.3
Calculation of Required Storage - 27 Hole Golf Course
Area
"C" factor
Rainfall
Runoff
(ac)
(in)
(ac ft) (cu ft)
Grass 312.14
0.20
1.0
5.20 226613.6
Built upon 16.87
0.95
1.0
1.34 58176.2
Total 329.01
0.24
1.0
6.54 284789.8
Existing and Proposed
Ht. Above Volume
Normal Pool (cu ft)
Depth of Required Storage=(284789.8-213806.3)/(428004-21 3806)*(0.2-0. 1 )+0.1 = 0.13
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Project Number 90235.80 D SEP 2 7 1999
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0.2 42

MARK
From: BARBARA
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:52 AM
To: MARK
Subject: FW: THISTLE GOLF CLUB
-----Original Message ----
From: Linda Lewis[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:34 AM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: THISTLE GOLF CLUB
Dear Mark:
Roads in Phase I of The Thistle Golf Club were permitted under 970136, and roads in Phase II
were permitted under 980820. The applications show total development, but since no specific
design was shown, Greg chose to permit the roads only and require all future development to
submit an application.
We can redo the two permits into a single Master Plan. The application provide all future BUA,
including lots, roads recreation.facilites, clubhouse, cartpaths, etc. , the number of lots for
each future area must be specified, the BUA per lot must be assigned, and the way each
future area will be treated must be decided, ie., low density or an engineered system. This
method will require that final development plans be submitted. Separate applications for each
future area must be submitted only if they differ from what was approved under the Master
Plan.
We can also continue as two permits, and make modifications as each future area develops.
This will require that the permit application submitted include all development permitted to
date. Certain areas of the project may be required to provide engineered controls due to the
creation of pockets of high density.
Linda<?smaller>