20191604 Ver 2_USACE Correspondence_20221114

Strickland, Bev
From: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 7:45 PM
To: Gerald Pottern; Homewood, Sue
Cc: Aaron Collins; Jonathan Pittman
Subject: RE: [External] RE: High Point Upper Piedmont Lake, SAW-2019-02250
Attachments: HighPoint Sed Disposal Sites Ltr+Maps.pdf
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Hi Gerald, and thanks for your email with updated information on the additional sediment disposal areas (included in
the attachment) for the above referenced project. The Corps hereby associates the additional upland sediment disposal
areas with the NWP 39 verification dated 6/30/2022, specifically pertaining to Special Condition 1. Further, since no
return water from the upland contained disposal areas is anticipated in reach waters of the US, no NWP 16 authorization
is required for this project. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Dave Bailey
David E. Bailey, PWS
Regulatory Project Manager
US Army Corps of Engineers
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Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
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From: Gerald Pottern <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 5:17 PM
To: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>; Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
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Subject: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [External] RE: High Point Upper Piedmont Lake, SAW-2019-02250
Also, regarding Dave's comment about return water from the upland contained disposal area -- nearly all the water runs
back into the permitted area of the pond where it was taken from. The mostly -drained sediment is mixed with an
absorbent polymer and loaded into trucks, at which point it is squishy and too wet for landfill capping material, but it is
not dripping wet.
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From: Gerald Pottern <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 4:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [External] RE: High Point Upper Piedmont Lake, SAW-2019-02250
Hi Dave and Sue --
Attached is our letter and mapping to request that two additional sediment disposal site alternatives should
be added to the 404 and 401 verification letters for the referenced project. Please email or call me if you need
any further information to approve this request.
Thanks!
Gerald Pottern
Mogensen Mitigation Inc. - Raleigh
MMI Environmental Consultants
104 East Chestnut Avenue
Wake Forest, NC 27587
Office / Home: 919-556-8845
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From: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 8:03 PM
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>; Gerald Pottern <[e-mail]>
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<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: High Point Upper Piedmont Lake, SAW-2019-02250
Hello Gerald,
Assuming there are no additional stream, wetland, or buffer impacts at the new disposal location, then sending a letter
with the information as stated below will suffice for DWR. If there are new impacts those would require a 401/buffer
modification.
Sue Homewood (she/her/hers)
Division of Water Resources, Winston Salem Regional Office
Department of Environmental Quality
336 776 9693 office
336 813 1863 mobile
[e-mail]
450 W. Hanes Mill Rd, Suite 300
Winston Salem NC 27105
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To: Gerald Pottern <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
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Hi Gerald, and thanks for the email. Sending a letter with mapping of the new site and asking for concurrence from the
Corps will suffice for this detail change. In addition to the sediment disposal material, note also that the return water
from the upland contained disposal area is not allowed to impact any additional waters without authorization
(reference NWP 16). Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Dave Bailey
David E. Bailey, PWS
Regulatory Project Manager
US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
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From: Gerald Pottern <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 1:10 PM
To: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue
<[e-mail]>
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Subject: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] High Point Upper Piedmont Lake, SAW-2019-02250
Hi Dave and Sue,
We have a problem with the Upper Piedmont Parkway lake Dredging project (SAW-2019-02250 and DWR #
2019-1604 v.2). Our permit application identified the sediment disposal site as Kersey Valley Landfill, but the
landfill manager just informed Schnabel that they won't accept the sediment unless it is filter -pressed to dry it
out, as they need it for capping material. The cost to do that would overwhelm the project cost.
The City of High Point's public services engineer is now seeking alternative disposal sites. One possible site is a
former water treatment plant basin on Washington Street, and the other is a landfill in Thomasville. Once the
City has found an acceptable site, can we just send a letter to ACE and DWR with mapping of the new site, or
will we need to revise and resubmit the permit application ? We understand of course that the sediment
disposal may not impact any additional waters.
Gerald Pottern
Mogensen Mitigation Inc. - Raleigh
MMI Environmental Consultants
104 East Chestnut Avenue
Wake Forest, NC 27587
Office / Home: 919-556-8845
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From: Scarlett Kitts <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:57 PM
To: Aaron Collins <[e-mail]>; Carter Parsons <[e-mail]>; Gerald Pottern
<[e-mail]>; Rich Mogensen <[e-mail]>
Cc: Jonathan Pittman <[e-mail]>
Subject: dredge
Ok Folks,
We have an interesting situation. The dredged material was rejected from the Kersey Valley landfill. The landfill
indicated they wanted the material filter -pressed before they would accept it. This was not expected and the additional
cost to perform this handling process would overwhelm the cost of the project.
I called Allan (City) to see what options we have. He sent me an email regarding two other places we might be able to
used to get rid of the material. (see attached)
If we agree that either (or both) of these places is acceptable for us to deposit the material — we then need to see if we
can change the permit. The permit specifically states that we will deposit the material at the Kersey Valley landfill. I
don't think the Army Corps will care where the material is deposited — as long as it's a regulated disposal site. Attached
is an email that talks about alternative disposal sites.
Gerald, if we find out that the sites the City listed in the email (attached) are worthy to take our sediment, how difficult
(time -wise) would be to change the permit? Or do you think the Army Corps will care that the disposal site has changed?
Thank you!
-Scarlett
3carlett Kitts, PE
Senior Engineer / Schnabel Engineering South, P.C.
Schnabel Engineering
T 336.274.9456 / C 336.854.9211
11 A Oak Branch Drive
Greensboro, NC 27407
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