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Williams, Ed
From:
Fox, Tim
Sent:
Friday, November 14, 2014 3:09 PM
To:
Stokes, Jake - NRCS, Waynesville, NC
Cc:
Williams, Ed
Subject:
RE: Richard Barlowe Stream Project
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Flagged
Thanks,
Received your email and we will review next week.
Thanks for your help.
Tim
Tim Fox - tim.fox @ncdenr.gov
North Carolina Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources
Asheville Regional Office
Division of Water Resources — Water Quality Programs
2090 U.S. 70 Highway
Swannanoa, NC 28778
Tel: 828 - 296 -4500
Fax: 828 - 299 -7043
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From: Stokes, Jake - NRCS, Waynesville, NC [mailto:jake.stokes @nc.usda.gov]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:10 AM
To: Williams, Ed; Fox, Tim
Cc: Faulkner, William - NRCS, Morganton, NC; Belflower, Jeff - NRCS, Rutherfordton, NC; Stokes, Jake - NRCS,
Waynesville, NC
Subject: RE: Richard Barlowe Stream Project
Tim,
Thanks for calling me back yesterday. I'll address the concerns with the Barlowe project below:
1. There is no single reference reach for this project. As always, we looked up and downstream of the project
reach for a stable section to survey for reference but it was found that other sections of Abingdon Creek in the
area were as degraded or worse than our project reach. Therefore, we applied design parameters that have
been used for several successful stabilization projects in similar watersheds /landforms /stream types. This has
been a successful approach for many years now.
2. In- stream structures will control and maintain pool -to -pool spacing on this project. The project begins at the tail
of a riffle where a cross -vane will be installed. The structure will maintain a pool and subsequent glide into the
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next riffle. There will be a J -hook installed at the tail of this riffle that will maintain a pool below. This pattern
repeats the length of the project. Pattern constraints dictate structure placement on this project. Structure
placement, and therefore pool locations, can be seen on the plan views and the profile in the
drawings. Proposed riffle dimensions can be seen on sheet 3 of 3. Structure details can be seen in the attached
spec package that accompanies the drawings. You may not have received a copy of this but this is where we
generally provide structure details. NRCS general policy on stream jobs is such that the contractor is not
permitted to install in- stream structures unless an NRCS representative is on site to direct the work.
3. The old channel will be primarily filled with spoil from new channel excavation and /or spoil from benching. The
plug will be protected with boulder or log toe protection. See the attached photos of a recently installed similar
feature from another project. Note the width of the plug and the rock toe and geotextile protection. Also
shown is the same area after seeding, mulching, and ECB installation.
4. Details for structures in the upper trib can be found in the spec package. They will be the same as those for the
main reach but on a much smaller scale. Again, an NRCS representative will be directing all work. At the mouth
of the field ditch we just planned on installing boulder toe protection and sill rocks for grade control. These are
strictly precautionary measures and are really not necessary for the intent of our project. The confluence of the
ditch and stream is relatively stable.
Please let me know if there are any more questions related to this stream project or NRCS stream work in general.
Thanks,
Jake Stokes, P.E.
USDA -NRCS Civil Engineer
Waynesville Area 1 Office
828 456 6341 ext4 or ext109
From: Stokes, Jake - NRCS, Waynesville, NC
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:15 AM
To: 'ed.williams @ncdenr.gov'; 'tim.fox @ncdenr.gov'
Cc: Faulkner, William - NRCS, Morganton, NC; Belflower, Jeff - NRCS, Rutherfordton, NC
Subject: FW: Richard Barlowe Stream Project
Ed and Tim,
Jeff Belflower, the design engineer for this project, has been on construction supervision lately and unable to reach you
when in the office to address the questions below. After today, Jeff will be unavailable until December. Could either of
you contact me regarding these questions? I'm familiar with the project and should be able to ease any concerns.
Thanks,
Jake Stokes, P.E.
USDA -NRCS Civil Engineer
Waynesville Area 1 Office
828 456 6341 ext4 or ext109
From: Williams, Ed [ mailto:ed.williams(�bncdenr.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:42 PM
To: Faulkner, William - NRCS, Morganton, NC
Cc: Fox, Tim
Subject: Richard Barlowe Stream Project

Hi Will,
Thanks for meeting us out at the Barlowe property last week. In order to proceed with the 401 permit, we need some
more information.
1. Please provide reference reach data for the project area.
2. Please provide us with typical details for pool, riffle, run structures. Explain distance and spacing.
3. What material will be used to plug up the old channel? (Detail)
4. Please provide details for structures where the tributary and the ditch enter the stream.
Let me or Tim know if you have any questions. If you cannot provide this info in a reasonable amount of time, let me or
Tim know so we can draft an add info letter. I will be out of the office until November 17th, so please contact Tim Fox
until then. Thanks
Ed
Ed Williams - Ed.Williams @ncdenr.gov
NC DENR Division of Water Resources
Water Quality Section
Asheville Regional Office
2090 US 70 Highway
Swannanoa, NC 28778
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