20220190 Ver 1_USACE Correspondence_20220408

Strickland, Bev
From: Cohn, Colleen M
Sent: Friday, April 8, 2022 11:37 AM
To: Barnes, Kyle W CIV USARMY CESAW (USA); Dailey, Samantha J CIV USARMY CESAW
(USA)
Subject: FW: [External] 6032 Waters Edge. Buffer PCN
Attachments: 01-21056-waters-edge-S-1 Notes.pdf; 20220190 Ver 1_6032 Waters Edge PCN Docs_
20220130.pdf
Good morning!
I have a question about a bulkhead application that came in a couple of months ago as a Courtesy Copy in Nash County.
Sam, I'm including you as it is my understanding that they previously reached out to you concerning piers, docks, and
boathouses. I've attached part of the PCN attachments with your email correspondence in it.
They submitted a PCN with only buffer impacts listed. Based on the description and recently submitted plans (attached),
it appears that they are excavating a portion of the shoreline in order to install a bulkhead. Does this require anything
from yall?
Thanks!
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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From: John R. Davis, Jr. <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 12:47 AM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] 6032 Waters Edge. Buffer PCN
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Colleen, I got this detail from the engineers for project. I made some notes on it related to proposed stormwater
flows. The final grade will maintain sheet flow and gentle slopes and vegetation will prevent rills and gullies from
forming. John
John R. Davis, Jr. LSS
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 2:48 PM Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]> wrote:
I'm still confused with the bulkhead/retaining wall part. I did some quick sketches in Paint. Are you talking about either
of these?
A. Retaining Wall
Sticking up out of the
ground, stormwater
flow trapped behind
retaining wall
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
3800 Barrett Drive
B. Retaining Wall where
stormwater flow runs
over the wall into
waterbodyl
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Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 5:53 PM
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Oh OK, So how have similar projects been permitted on this Reservoir? No retaining wall? just pier to boathouse?
By the way most of the buffer only has grass with a few crooked trees and saplings near the water. I believe it has
been in this condition before the buffer rules 1998? so may be an existing ongoing use if that makes any
difference. Thanks for your assistance. John
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 5:41 PM Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]> wrote:
Retaining walls aren't listed in the Table of Uses for the Tar -Pam Riparian Buffer Rules, and uses not listed in the Table
of Uses require a written Buffer Authorization Certificate with Exception (Buffer Variance), which also requires
mitigation as well as approval. Typically retaining walls do not meet dispersed flow for stormwater runoff
requirements. Is the retaining wall sticking up out of the ground? (Do you have a side view drawing or sketch? I must
admit that I am a very visual person, and I am not seeing how this would meet stormwater requirements.)
I want to make sure I am fully understanding what you're requesting. If it does require a Buffer Variance, that is a
different form.
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
From: John R. Davis, Jr. <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 5:31 PM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] 6032 Waters Edge. Buffer PCN
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Thank you for the clarification. Unfortunately I think we use the words bulkhead and retaining wall sort of
interchangeably. The retaining wall structure will be built on the clients property and not on the city of Rocky Mount
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reservoir property or in WOUS so it really will indeed be a retaining wall and only affect the buffers! If needed I can
go through and make those terminology changes just let me know Thanks. John
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 4:44 PM Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]> wrote:
I'm not understanding. Your correspondence with Sam discusses the pier, dock, and boathouse, but not the
bulkhead. Additionally, based on the maps, it looks like you're building a retaining wall, not a bulkhead, but the map
says bulkhead. The typical bulkheads I see have some portion of the bulkhead below the ordinary high water mark.
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
880o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
From: John R. Davis, Jr. <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 4:07 PM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] 6032 Waters Edge. Buffer PCN
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No, the retaining wall is above the normal water line. and pilings will be driven into the lake bed for the
boathouse. We understand from the USACE that this activity is covered under their general permit. I believe an
email from Samantha Daily is included in the PCN. Thanks John
John R. Davis, Jr. LSS
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:26 PM Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]> wrote:
Mr. Davis,
Are there ANY impacts to streams/open waters/wetlands, even if they are below notification threshold for the
USACE?
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
3800 Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
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Original Message
From: Montalvo, Sheri A <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 12:19 PM
To: John R. Davis, Jr. <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Cc: David Revoir <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] 6032 Waters Edge. Buffer PCN
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Importance: High
Colleen,
This one is marked for the record only on the epcn, it has GP#'s listed, but only buffer impacts in the impacts table.
Please let me know what changes I need to make to it to get it corrected.
Is it not a courtesy copy?
Does it need a PN?
Does it need a fee? If so, Major or Minor?
Thanks,
Sheri Montalvo
Administrative Specialist
401 & Buffer Permitting Branch
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
[e-mail]
Mailing address: 1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1617 Physical address: 512 N. Salisbury Street,
Raleigh, NC 27604
Original Message
From: John R. Davis, Jr. [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 3:31 PM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Cc: David Revoir <[e-mail]>; Montalvo, Sheri A <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] 6032 Waters Edge. Buffer PCN
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The courtesy copy was only for the Corps of engineers because that activity is covered under the general permit
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> The 1/30/22 application for "6032 Waters Edge" (DWR#20220190) appears to have been entered in as a Courtesy
Copy as it is indicated in the application that the notification is solely for the record.
>
> Colleen Cohn
> Environmental Specialist II
> North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality Division of Water
> Resources Raleigh Regional Office
> 3800 Barrett Drive
> Raleigh, NC 27609
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> Office: 919-791-4258
>
> E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
> North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
>
> Original Message
> From: John R. Davis, Jr. <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 1:53 PM
> To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>; David Revoir
> <[e-mail]>
> Subject: [External] 6032 Waters Edge. Buffer PCN
>
> CAUTION: External email. Do not click links or open attachments unless
> you verify. Send all suspicious email as an attachment to Report
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> Ms, Cohn, It has been over 60 days since we submitted the PCN. Please advise as to our status! thanks. John
Davis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
John R. Davis, Jr. LSS
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