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Strickland, Bev
From: Cohn, Colleen M
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:26 AM
To: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA); Deborah Shirley
Cc: Camden Brunick; Steven Ball; Jon Holtvedt
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road /
Clayton NC /Johnston County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION
Running a few minutes late this morning, but on the way! My apologies!
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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From: Cohn, Colleen M
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Deborah Shirley
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>; Steven Ball <[e-mail]>; Jon Holtvedt
<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston
County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Thanks! See you in the morning!
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
From: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 4:22 PM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>; Steven Ball <[e-mail]>; Jon Holtvedt
<[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston
County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
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Thanks, Debbie! See you then.
Christopher D. Hopper
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Regulatory Division
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
0: [phone], Ext. 35
M: [phone]
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From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 4:19 PM
To: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>; Steven Ball <[e-mail]>; Jon Holtvedt
<[e-mail]>
Subject: [URL Verdict: Unknown][Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc /
Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Chris & Colleen,
Just touching base for our site visit tomorrow morning at 9AM. Off Winston Road, at the main entrance to the north for
the development (Winston Pointe Club Blvd) there is a community pool. Let's meet in that parking lot. Please see
screenshot below that includes Lat and Long. Thanks and we will see you in the morning! Debbie
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DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
North Quarter Office Park
8412 Falls of Neuse Road, Suite 104
Raleigh, NC 27615
Office [phone]
Direct [phone]
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From: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 2:09 PM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>; Steven Ball <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M
<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston
County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Minimally I'm hoping to cover 2 and 3 (past and future impacts). I would like to keep 1 on the table though, depending
on the findings during 3 and as convenient while navigating.
I will try to have LiDAR with me — but have a full plate so that will be time -permitting.
Christopher D. Hopper
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Regulatory Division
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
0: [phone], Ext. 35
M: [phone]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey can
be accessed by copying and pasting the following link into your web browser:
https://regulatory.ops.usace.army.mil/customer-service-survey/. Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and
complete the survey.
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 1:01 PM
To: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>; Steven Ball <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M
<[e-mail]>
Subject: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc /
Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Chris,
OK, just so I understand, 1) the S&EC delineation field verifying wetlands, streams and/or open waters flagged in the
field, 2) previously constructed impacts areas (historical) and 3) proposed impact areas (12/22/2021 PCN Application)
will all be field reviewed?
Thank you for your clarification, I just need to make sure we have all of the right information and team members
present.
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Debbie
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
North Quarter Office Park
8412 Falls of Neuse Road, Suite 104
Raleigh, NC 27615
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Direct [phone]
Mobile [phone]
[e-mail]
Visit us at sandec.com
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From: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:41 PM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>; Steven Ball <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M
<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston
County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Impact areas would be reviewed during the same visit so please do include anyone you think prudent.
Thank you!
Christopher D. Hopper
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Regulatory Division
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
0: [phone], Ext. 35
M: [phone]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey can
be accessed by copying and pasting the following link into your web browser:
https://regulatory.ops.usace.army.mil/customer-service-survey/. Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and
complete the survey.
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 10:14 AM
To: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>; Steven Ball <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M
<[e-mail]>
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Subject: [URL Verdict: Unknown][Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc /
Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Chris,
Will this site visit include you reviewing the S&EC delineation and field verify those areas or just to review previously
authorized impacts? I ask because if you are going to be reviewing the delineation/PJD that was sent to you in October
2021 then I will need to include Steven or someone from his team on this site visit.
Thanks,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
North Quarter Office Park
8412 Falls of Neuse Road, Suite 104
Raleigh, NC 27615
Office [phone]
Direct [phone]
Mobile [phone]
[e-mail]
Visit us at sandec.com
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From: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 9:30 AM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>; Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston
County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Thanks, Colleen:
Lets put the 30th on the calendar. Would 9:00 am work for everyone?
Christopher D. Hopper
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Regulatory Division
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
0: [phone], Ext. 35
M: [phone]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey can
be accessed by copying and pasting the following link into your web browser:
https://regulatory.ops.usace.army.mil/customer-service-survey/. Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and
complete the survey.
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From: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 9:25 AM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>; Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>
Subject: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc /
Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Good morning everyone,
I can do March 30tn. I currently have a scheduling conflict on the 29tn
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 3:46 PM
To: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>; Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County) -
INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
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Afternoon Chris,
Yes it did take some time. Please fit us in the earliest that you can, we have lost time on this one because of the FOIA
delays, amongst other things. We can be available either of those days, after 9AM if that works for you.
Thanks,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
North Quarter Office Park
8412 Falls of Neuse Road, Suite 104
Raleigh, NC 27615
Office [phone]
Direct [phone]
Mobile [phone]
[e-mail]
Visit us at sandec.com
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This electronic communication, including all attachments, is intended only for the named addressee (s) and may contain confidential information. This electronic
communication may not have passed through our standard review/quality control process. Design data and recommendations included herein are provided as a matter of
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From: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Cc: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>; Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County) -
INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Thank you Deborah and Camden:
I know this was a heavy lift with the kind of moving parts that few counties do better than Johnston. I think a site visit to
review everything and formalize a 'reset' with all impacts understood going forward would be good. Is that something
we can put together? I can offer the 29th or 30tn
Christopher D. Hopper
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Regulatory Division
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
0: [phone], Ext. 35
M: [phone]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey can
be accessed by copying and pasting the following link into your web browser:
https://regulatory.ops.usace.army.mil/customer-service-survey/. Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and
complete the survey.
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:22 PM
To: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>; Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>
Subject: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road /
Clayton NC / Johnston County) - INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Chris,
We have been working diligently on the project history for these parcels of land and believe that we have a good
understanding of its permitting and development history. Note that before we submitted the PCN application, we did
review the NCDWR files and thought that we had a good understanding of the permitting history. Below I have provided
a timeline and referenced Nationwide Permit verifications issued, important documents and exhibits that should assist
in your review of this Nationwide Permit request.
1995:
AID 1994-04978-Sweetwater-Commercial, Residential and Golf Course -Issued to Solaris Development Corporation
This verification authorized NWP 26 to impact 4.94 acres (3.84 ac fill & 1.1 ac excavated of headwaters and Isolated
waters), NWP 14 to impact 1.78 acres, NWP 18 to impact 0.1 acre, and NWP 12 to impact 9.33 acre (excavation and site
restoration). Per a April 19, 2000 letter from Michael Stewart of Stewart -Proctor, no authorized impacts took place and
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the tract was subdivided into 2 tracts of land (see attached). Additionally, Google Earth imaging indicates that no
disturbance took place before 1999.
2002:
SAW-2002-20830-Winston Pointe Gravity Sanitary Sewer -Issued to M.A.L. Properties, LLC
This verification authorized NWP 12 to impact 0.569 acres of temporary impacts to jurisdictional waters. To our
knowledge, this utility line was constructed.
2013:
SAW-2013-01279- Winston Pointe Mixed Development- Issued to Central Carolina Reality
This verification authorized NWP 29 to impact 0.036 acres of wetland and 140 LF (280 SF) of stream associated with
three road crossings. To our knowledge, two of the three road crossings were constructed (i.e. Impact A and B) totaling
0.023 acres of wetland and 140 LF/280 SF of stream. Impact Area C was not constructed.
Other project information that we have concluded is that there was a road impact that we believe was constructed
in/around 2002, this crossing is up in the NE corner of the original Phase 1 (see attached aerial Google Earth photos and
Overall Map with notes). This presumed impact was to a wetland area per the jurisdictional determination and riparian
buffer determinations in that area. There is no permitting record for this crossing, but we believe it would have been
under the 0.10 acre NWP thresholds requiring notification in 2002. Early JD maps indicate that this is a wetland area
beyond the identified buffered stream. And finally, per the attached Approved Winston Pointe Master Plan, at Phase 3
the linear wetland feature was avoided by curving the road out to the east, see Foxtail Ct near amenity center.
In summary, we have provided a map exhibit with notes that identifies areas that have been previously
permitted/constructed, please see Winston Pointe OVERALL MAP with impacts listed.
I am going to attached as many documents as I can to this email and keep it at 10MB max and then send follow up
emails with the additional documents. My ShareFile is not currently working.
Please let me know if we need to set a time aside to review together or if you have any questions.
Thanks,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
North Quarter Office Park
8412 Falls of Neuse Road, Suite 104
Raleigh, NC 27615
Office [phone]
Direct [phone]
Mobile [phone]
[e-mail]
Visit us at sandec.com
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From: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:29 AM
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To: Camden Brunick <[e-mail]>
Cc: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County) -
INCOMPLETE - REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Good Morning, Camden:
Thank you for the above referenced request to utilize Nationwide Permit 29 to construct Phase 10 of the Winston Pointe
subdivision. At this time, the application is incomplete and we will require additional information to begin review. S&EC
and/or Stewart Proctor have been involved in permitting this development since the early 1990s. The development was
formerly known as 'Sweetwater' and in the early 2000's became known as Winston Pointe.
USACE Action ID SAW-1994-04978 (S&EC) authorized the use of Nationwide Permit (NWP) 26 to impact 4.94
acres, NWP 14 to impact 1.78 acres, NWP 18 to impact 0.1 acre, and NWP 12 to impact 9.33 acre.
USACE Action ID SAW-2002-20830 (S&EC) authorized the use of NWP 12 to impact .569 acre
USACE Action ID SAW-2013-01279 (Stewart Proctor) authorized the use of NWP 29 to impact 0.036 acre and 140
linear feet of stream.
I have attached several associated project maps to illustrate project connectivity/overlap.
The project status, and what (if any) impacts have occurred are unclear. Please review your files and prepare a complete
project history for our consideration as we review this recent request.
Regards,
Christopher D. Hopper
Regulatory Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Regulatory Division
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
0: [phone], Ext. 35
M: [phone]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey can
be accessed by copying and pasting the following link into your web browser:
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complete the survey.
From: RaleighNCREG <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 10:47 AM
To: [e-mail]
Cc: Hopper, Christopher D CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Thames, Joyce A CIV
USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Subject: SAW-2021-02303 (Central Carolina Reality Inc / Winston Road / Clayton NC / Johnston County)
Good Morning,
We have received your Pre -Construction Notification (PCN) NWP request for the above project and forwarded it to Mr.
Chris Hopper for further processing.
Thank you,
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Josephine Schaffer
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