20220212 Ver 1_Meeting Note_20210907

Strickland, Bev
From: Cohn, Colleen M
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:42 AM
To: Deborah Shirley
Cc: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch
Road), Durham NC (SAW-2010-01907)
Hi Deborah,
Just want to note the condition that "[i]nstallation of culverts in wetlands shall ensure continuity of water movement
and be designed to adequately accommodate high water or flood conditions. When roadways, causeways, or other fill
projects are constructed across FEMA-designated floodways or wetlands, opening such as culverts or bridges shall be
provided to maintain the natural hydrology of the system as well as prevent constriction of the floodway that may result
in destabilization of streams or wetlands." Please make sure to document how the new design will meet this in the
application.
Otherwise, I have no further comments at this time.
Thanks,
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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Sent: Thursday, September 2, 20214:30 PM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Cc: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-
2010-01907)
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Afternoon Colleen,
I wanted to check in with you regarding the below email and attached. Please let us know if the DWR has any comments
or guidance, or if the DWR has no comments, please let us know that as well so that we can confidently move forward
with the FEMA flood study.
Thank you,
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DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
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From: Deborah Shirley
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:34 PM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Cc: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-
2010-01907)
Good afternoon Colleen,
I wanted to reach out to see if you had any follow up questions regarding the proposed Solana project or any guidance
for the proposed road crossing over the beaver impounded wetland. Per the comments during the pre -application
meeting, I believe that the project engineers are redesigning the culverts to not have the 1' of burial since we are
crossing within an impounded wetland vs. a stream. I wanted to point this out since the exhibits within the attached
Solana binder do show the culverts buried.
The first step for the project is to start the FEMA flood study and the culvert design plays a very important part in that
evaluation and timely review. That being said, please let us know if the DWR has any comments or guidance as soon as
your schedule allows, or if the DWR has no comments, please let us know that as well.
Thank you,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
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From: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 12:00 PM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Cc: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-
2010-01907)
No, from our meeting this morning, it seems as though the project will fit NWP thresholds. The general comments
received below were from another PM. I address his comments in red.
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April R. Norton
Regulatory Division
US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
Phone: [phone], Ext. 57
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 11:55 AM
To: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road),
Durham NC (SAW-2010-01907)
April,
Thank you very much. I will forward along to the Solana team. Just for clarification, it sounds like you have concerns
about the project being over NWP thresholds? Just inquiring because as soon as I forward, they will probably ask if that
is what you meant, and I just want to be sure there wasn't a typo. Q
Thanks,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
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From: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 11:39 AM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-
2010-01907)
Hi Debbie,
Thank you arranging the meeting as pre-app meetings are very helpful.
It appears as though the culverts are designed appropriately and would meet the regional conditions for culvert
placement, specifically, "Installation of culverts in wetlands shall ensure continuity of water movement and be designed
to adequately accommodate high water or flood conditions. When roadways, causeways, or other fill projects are
constructed across FEMA-designated floodways or wetlands, openings such as culverts or bridges shall be provided to
maintain the natural hydrology of the system as well as prevent constriction of the floodway that may result in
destabilization of streams or wetlands."
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A condition that was often used in NCDOT permits states the following, "Culverts/pipes placed within riparian and/or
riverine wetlands must be installed in a manner that does not restrict the flow and circulation patterns of waters of the
U.S. Culverts/pipes placed across wetland fills purely for the purposes of equalizing surface water do not have to be
buried, but must be of adequate size and/or number to ensure unrestricted transmission of water."
General comments received regarding drawings:
My bigger concerns would be the placement of the crossing in this location, as opposed to a proposed crossing further
south where the wetland/stream is much narrower (close to the southern property boundary), and thereby further
avoiding impacts to the wetland/impoundment. Please be sure to document why this location was picked in the
application and discuss other alternatives considered.
Seems like the impacts overall for the project would be over the NWP thresholds. Nationwide Permits 29 and 14 were
discussed.
Hope this helps,
April
April R. Norton
Regulatory Division
US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
Phone: [phone], Ext. 57
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:55 AM
To: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M
<[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road),
Durham NC (SAW-2010-01907)
April/Colleen:
Thank you again for your time today. Please see attached binder that includes the exhibits that were presented today,
along with the initial email to you both that includes the S&EC sketch maps and buffer letters.
If you have any follow up questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
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From: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:16 AM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Cc: Goss, Stephanie <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-
2010-01907)
Good morning! I'm available the 17th and 19tn
Thanks,
April
April R. Norton
Regulatory Division
US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
Phone: [phone], Ext. 57
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:57 AM
To: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Goss, Stephanie <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road),
Durham NC (SAW-2010-01907)
Good morning April,
Do you still have availability on the 17t" 18th or 19tn? If so, I will send over to the applicants and try and lock in a date.
Thanks,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
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From: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:48 AM
To: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)<[e-mail]>; Deborah Shirley
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<[e-mail]>
Cc: Goss, Stephanie <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-
2010-01907)
Hi Debbie,
Apologies for the late response. I am available the 17t" 18th, or 19th
Thanks!
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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From: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:55 PM
To: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Cc: Goss, Stephanie <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-2010-
01907)
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Hi Debbie,
I'm available on the following days:
August 12th
August 17th
August 18th
August 19th
Let me know if one of the above dates will work for you all and your preferred time.
Thanks,
April
April R. Norton
Regulatory Division
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US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
Phone: [phone], Ext. 57
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
From: Deborah Shirley <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 10:26 AM
To: Norton, April R CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Cohn, Colleen M
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Goss, Stephanie <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Pre -Application Meeting: Solana (aka 1101 & 1051 Olive Branch Road), Durham NC (SAW-
2010-01907)
April/Colleen/Stephanie:
I wanted to reach out regarding the attached project to schedule a Pre -Application Meeting with you all. Please send
me a few dates that work for you and then I will coordinate with the developers and engineers and will confirm a date
and time. Note that on this one there is a proposed road crossing of Marsh Branch that bisects the 1101 Olive Branch
Road property. This feature is more of a beaver impounded wetland and the engineers will be looking for guidance on
culvert design for this crossing.
Attached are the S&EC sketch maps post USACE and NCDWR determinations, and the NCDWR buffer letters. Also note
that there will be some offsite improvements as well, we are currently working on these offsite locations.
Thank you,
DEBORAH E. SHIRLEY
Project Manager -Regulatory Specialist
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
North Quarter Office Park
8412 Falls of Neuse Road, Suite 104
Raleigh, NC 27615
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