20131070 Ver 1_Staff Comments_20140723

Strickland, Bev
From: Devane, Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:55 AM
To: Strickland, Bev
Subject: FW: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Please file this email with the 13 -1070 file. thanks
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From: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net [ mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:52 AM
To: Devane, Boyd
Subject: Re: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Boyd: Any news on my permit applicaiton.?
David F Ramsey, Professional Engineer
434 Skinner Blvd
Dunedin, Fl 34698
or
61 The Glens Blvd
Banner Elk, NC 28604
727 4094639 cell phone
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From: Devane, Boyd
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:45 PM
To: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net
Subject: RE: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Thanks. Hopefully that will work. Can you predict that the flow will be no erosive through the filter?
From: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net [davidf.ramsey @verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:22 PM
To: Devane, Boyd
Subject: Re: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Boyd: I located the end of the existing discharge pipe that is shown on the drawings that will be the discharge from the
retention area. The distance from the end of the existing pipe to the top of bank for Elk River is 50'
and does pass through vegetative buffer. Attached you will find pictures of the condition. I believe the condition
satisfies the requirement outlined in the code.

Any questions or additional comments call or email.
David F Ramsey, Professional Engineer
434 Skinner Blvd
Dunedin, FI 34698
or
61 The Glens Blvd
Banner Elk, NC 28604
727 4094639 cell phone
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From: Devane, Boyd <mai Ito: boyd.devane @ncdenr.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:13 AM
To: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net< mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:26 PM,
"davidf. ra msey @verizon. net <mai Ito:davidf. ra msey @verizon. net >"
<davidf.ramsey @verizon.net< mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net>> wrote:
Boyd: I mailed the drawing but forgot to include the cover letter. It is attached.
David F Ramsey, Professional Engineer
434 Skinner Blvd
Dunedin, FI 34698
or
61 The Glens Blvd
Banner Elk, NC 28604
727 4094639 cell phone
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From: Devane, Boyd <mai Ito: boyd.devane @ncdenr.gov>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:31 PM
To: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net< mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net>
Cc: Fox, Tim <mailto:tim.fox @ncdenr.gov> ; mailto :john.vilas @mcgillengineers.com
Subject: RE: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.

I'm glad we talked and I hope I can get on with the review when I return on July 14th. However, I have got to have the
most updated copies of all of the drawings pertaining to the stormwater aspects of the site. I realized why you do not
see the storage numbers on your drawings that I see. The reason is that we have never received any of the drawings
that you submitted to me electronically today. All of the earlier drawings we received were approved in July or
September of 2013 and all of the drawings that you sent today were approved on February 6, 2014.. Therefore, please
send me a full -sized copy of all of the plans so I can evaluate how the plans meet our requirements. You should note
that the "Sediment Basin Plan" drawing dated as approved on 2/6/14 that you sent today is different from the hard
copy
one that we received recently, also dated as approved on 2/6/14. The
storage numbers are different and I noticed that there are changes in the wet pond drawings. Please send the
documents to Boyd DeVane, NC Division of Water Resources, 1617 MSC, Raleigh, NC 27699 -1617. Us having the same
documents should make the review less frustrating. Thanks
From: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net< mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net>
[mailto:davidf.ramsey @verizon. net]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:32 AM
To: Devane, Boyd
Subject: Re: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Boyd: Good to talk to you today attached you will find the information we discuss. My calculation for the size of the
pond is 11,060 CF and I have provide 11,883 CF.
I do not find on the drawings a difference in volume number.
Please review and if you have additional comments please advise.
Have a good vacation.
David F Ramsey, Professional Engineer
434 Skinner Blvd
Dunedin, FI 34698
or
61 The Glens Blvd
Banner Elk, NC 28604
727 4094639 cell phone
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From: Devane, Boyd <mai Ito: boyd.devane @ncdenr.gov>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:25 AM
To: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net< mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net>
Cc: Fox, Tim <mailto:tim.fox @ncdenr.gov>
Subject: RE: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Obviously I did not explain the drawings that I had been reviewing very well. I did inadvertently review an older version
of one drawing and I noted that in my email below. Perhaps it would be better to try to discuss this via telephone.
Please call when you get a chance. I will be leaving today about 3:00 pm and will be out for two weeks. Therefore, if I
can help clear this up today, it might expedite the plan approval. I can be reached at 919 - 807 -6373.
From: davidf.ramsey @verizon.net< mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net>

[ mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:13 AM
To: Devane, Boyd
Subject: Elk Creek Avery County Fw: My mistake on previous note.
Boyd: John Vilas has forward several emails from you to him regarding the aforementioned project. I am the person
who needs to answer the questions and do not understand exactly what you have been reviewing.
Please email directly the question you have on the plans for Elk Creek in Banner Elk, NC.
David F Ramsey, Professional Engineer
434 Skinner Blvd
Dunedin, Fl 34698
or
61 The Glens Blvd
Banner Elk, NC 28604
727 4094639 cell phone
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From: John Vilas< mailto: john.vilas @mcgillengineers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:18 PM
To: David F Ramsey< mailto :davidf.ramsey @verizon.net>
Subject: FW: My mistake on previous note.
Dave, see below an email from Boyd Devane re the Elk Creek SW plan.
John Vilas
Program Services Manager - Environmental
McGill Associates, P.A.
3764 Rominger Road I Banner Elk, NC 28604
Phone: [phone] Mobile: [phone] Fax: [phone]
Email:
john.vilas @mcgillengineers.com< mailto: john.vilas @mcgillengineers.com>
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From: Devane, Boyd [mailto:boyd.devane @ncdenr.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:47 PM
To: John Vilas
Cc: Fox, Tim
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Subject: My mistake on previous note.
In looking at my June 12th email, I realized that several of the comments I
made were based on my viewing an older version of the "Sediment Basin Plan ".
I even noted that I was viewing the September 13, 2013 version and you may
have caught that. Therefore, please forgive my inaccurate memo and ignore
the following comments:
• On #2, 1 mentioned that I could not find the forebay. I do now
see the forebays in the 2/16/14 version.
• On #3, 1 mentioned the "volume provided in the filter area is
13,710 cu. ft." I think that that the 13,710 figure was from an old
drawing. However, the "Water Quality Notes and Calculations" do show a
volume in the pond of 11,060 cu.ft. and the drawing indicates a storage of
12,606 cu. ft. There may be some confusion because of the forebay volume
but I'd appreciate you checking on that.
Please ignore #4 on the underdrain and filter fabric. I was
looking at the earlier version of the drawing.
Please ignore #10. You found the slope error and corrected it.
I feel much better about the submittal now that I am looking at the updated
drawing. I apologize if my mistake caused you any additional work.
I am, however, having some difficulty seeing the elevation lines (above the
3675.5 line) around the pond and would appreciate you sending the 2 -6 -14
drawing in a PDF version. Also, I'm not sure if this is an issue but the
bottom of the drop inlet #1 of forebay #2 looks like it will be flooded at
the design storm event. This may be your only option but you might check on
that. (PS. Any other drawings, like the drainage area delineation, can also
be submitted by PDF.)
I will be out on vacation on Monday the 30th and return on July 14th. I
will be in the office some tomorrow and most of the day on Thursday and
Friday. If you feel like you could benefit from talking to me before I go
on vacation, please give me a call.
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