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Strickland, Bev
From: Lindsey Hesch <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 12:30 PM
To: Cohn, Colleen M
Subject: Re: [External] Re: 210 Choctaw - Shore Stabilization
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I'm sorry to blow up your email again - but to clarify so it makes more sense. This is not new residential
construction. There is a house here already, and there apparently once upon a time was a boathouse and dock but it
burned down. One of the ways I was able to afford it, but I need to fix this erosion :)
Hope that makes more sense as to why I am not doing a lot of disturbance - or trying no to!
Thanks
On Feb 22, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Lindsey Hesch <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Colleen,
No worries - thank you for the quick response!!!
We were actually proposing none. I am attaching some more photos/ diagrams I have in draft for the
app.
Basically our hillside is so steep the current plan is for the work to be done enitrely manually. with no
vegetation clearing or significant disturbance. One of the reasons I want this too is to protect my
beuatiful Beech tree that some contractors have told me would die if they had to grade it out.
Thanks again for the quick response!!
Lindsey
On Feb 22, 2022, at 12:10 PM, "Cohn, Colleen M" <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Lindsey,
My apologies, I have been in and out of the office all day. Lake Royale is subject to the
Tar -Pamlico Riparian Buffer Rules, and it is often the Riparian Buffer Impacts that end up
triggering an Individual 401 Certification as disturbance to the buffer is often necessary
to install bank stabilization at Lake Royale. I've attached a copy of the Tar -Pamlico
Riparian Buffer Rules, which includes a Table of Uses.
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What impacts do you anticipate within the first 50 feet landward from the top of bank?
Colleen Cohn
Environmental Specialist II
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Raleigh Regional Office
380o Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Office: 919-791-4258
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From: Lindsey Hesch <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 12:00 PM
To: Cohn, Colleen M <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] Re: 210 Choctaw - Shore Stabilization
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Hi Colleen,
I just tried and got your VM saying the best way to recah you is via email. Please feel
free to give me a call at 984-960-8099 to discuss.
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I also thought I should mention, I haven't measured exactly but I would expect this to be
an area of roughly 15 square feet - I am thinking 10' x 3' triangle. I thought that might
be helpful.
If I have to go Individual, I was wondering what the timeline for that looks like also? I
really want to get this repaired as soon as possible, especially if I can before the boats
are out in full force making it worse (Memorial Day - Labor Day)
Thanks again,
Lindsey
On Feb 22, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Lindsey Hesch
<[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Colleen,
I wanted to show you a picture of what I am trying to do and confirm
you think it would need an Individual and how I might avoid that. The
red line is an approximate location of where the bank pops out and I
could bring the seawall straigh to tie into my neighbors seawall. I would
estimate at the widest, it would be about 3' of riprap that would need
to go in there to stabilize it adjacent to my neighbor. Can this be
considered shoreline stabilization and simply meeting the less than 150'
threshold? or is it considered permanent fill beyond the
shoreline? According to my neighbor, long ago the shoreline did come
out that far.
The other option is that we hug the seawall adjacent to the shoreline
but my neighbor is concerned because that actually goes behind the
back edge of his retention wall. He wants to make sure there is as much
structural integrity there as possible and we can tie in without any holes
remaining. I am trying to figure out a way to do this.
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I'll try to give you a ring - I really appreciate your help!! I would really
hate to do an Indvidual for this small area but I want to find a solution
that solves the erosion in the long-term. I'm sorry to be a pain!!!
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<Tar -Pamlico 15a ncac 02b .0734.pdf>
<permit diagrams.pdf>

Blue arrow, boulder
Location
White box, approximate
10' x 12'
new dock location
Red line, shoreline
needing stabilized -
seawall proposed
Green line, shoreline
reservation area
(low stable banks)
NOT TO SCALE
Plan View of Overhead
10' dock length from land to water
Up to 8 pilings 7" x 8"
12' wide dock
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35' of shoreline stabilization
1' is approximate OHWM; Banks estimated to be up to 6' tall,
Bringing 5' heights above OHM
Bank height requires seawall installation;
Too tall for riprap

Side View of Overhead
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10' Below OHWM — Pilings and Bank Stabilization Only Pcesssteec
10' Dock
Lake
6' Bank Height — Vertical Banks; therefore,
no impacts above OHWM