NCG170241_Emails RE COC Reactivation and Confusion with No Exposures_20220401

Georgoulias, Bethany
From: Georgoulias, Bethany
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 3:22 PM
To: Lukaczer, Grace; Carson, Brittany
Cc: Tran, Kieu M
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
Yes, that would be fine. That way it will be routed through Kieu like the others.
Thank you!
Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: httl2://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
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Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the
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Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COVID-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has
adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or
are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to
appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your
requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging
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From: Lukaczer, Grace [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 3:14 PM
To: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Georgoulias, Bethany <[e-mail]>
Cc: Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
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Thanks so much! Glen Raven does have two other facilities, one in Norlina and one in Burnsville, that I need to update
the permit contact to be me as well. Is it okay to fill out the request form for those?

From: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 3:01 PM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>; Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Cc: Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
Good afternoon.
I have updated both of the permit contacts' to reflect Grace Lukaczer as the permit Contact.
Brittany Carson
General Industrial Stormwater Permit Coordinator
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
Phone: [phone]
From: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 2:46 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
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If you could please list me as the permit contact person for both facilities, my contact information is:
Grace Lukaczer
4665 Liberty Hwy, Anderson SC 29621
(864)-209-9574
[e-mail]
Have a great weekend!
Grace
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:55 PM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
No need to submit another form. Just send me info about what needs to be updated, and I'll take care of it.
Thank you!
Bethany
From: Lukaczer, Grace[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 11:38 AM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure

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Good morning,
Both facilities permit number search pulled up full stormwater summaries this morning! Everything is accurate in terms
of facility information and owner affiliation contact. The permit contact person for the no exposure is myself, but my
email is incorrect and I need to change the Burlington permit contact to myself as well. Should I fill out the request form
to make those changes?
Thank you!
Grace
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 1:34 PM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
Okay— Hopefully we have sorted this out! Please run permit contact summary reports for both of these tomorrow and
let us know if everything is accurate.
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Let us know if we can adjust anything else (contacts, etc.) once you've had time to review it.
Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties
Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COVID-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has
adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or
are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to
appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your
requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging
time.
From: Lukaczer, Grace[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 12:09 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
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Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
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Yes that looks correct to me!
- 232 = Burlington Yarn Plant = NCG170241
- 226A = Novelty Yarn Plant/Sunbrella Graphics = NCGNE1459
Thanks for all your help, and I apologize again for the confusion on our end.
Grace
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 11:04 AM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
No, it will be more accurate if we do not combine these because it will look like the permit should not be active. This
should be its own facility.
We have just activated the permit again, but I don't think you'll be able to run a report until tomorrow morning to check
the contacts. You can submit contact changes in a request after that.
I will work with our Admin Assistant to set up the different facility for the NCG170241 (called Burlington Yarn Plant) and
keep this current one connected to NCGNE1459. We will also revise the address of this current facility to 226A Glen
Raven Rd.
Is that correct?
Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
bethany.georgoulias@ncdenngov
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties
Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COVID-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has
adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or
are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to

appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your
requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging
time.
From: Lukaczer, Grace[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 8:32 AM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
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That makes sense, the person who submitted the no exposure on our end did use the 232 address instead of the correct
226A, which could have been misleading! Is it correct to separate the two facilities into a stormwater permit and a no
exposure? If it's preferred by your team to combine the two facilities into one just let me know.
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 8:28 AM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
Okay, I am starting to see what happened and why the facility address looks discrepant. Both of these (the permit and
the No Exposure) have been tied to the same facility:
Facility: Glen Raven Custom Fabrics LLC - Novelty Yarn Plant?Sunbrella Graphics Save
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But it sounds like the NCGNE1459 should be a different facility. But the person approving the No Exposure connected it
to the existing one we had in our system at 232 Glen Raven Road. We'll sort this out when we get the permit
reactivated!

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Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
bethany.georgoulias@ncderingov
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
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appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your
requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging
time.
From: Lukaczer, Grace[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 8:15 AM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>

Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
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Good morning,
We have two plants, we call them the Burlington Yarn Plant (232 Glen Raven Rd) and the Novelty Yarn Plant/Sunbrella
Graphics (226A Glen Raven Rd). The novelty plant should have the No Exposure NCGNE1459, and the Burlington Plant
should have the permit NCG170241.
The owner affiliation needed to be updated for the Novelty plant, but during that process I went to pull the contact
sheet records for the Burlington Plant to double check, and when I couldn't find any I reached out to you. I apologize for
the confusion!! Please let me know if I can clarify further.
Thank you,
Grace
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241 vs No Exposure
Grace —Just a follow up on this to let you know why we need to get it sorted out. If this some plant has a No Exposure
Certification, it does not need a permit (NCG170241). So if NCGNE1459 is in place, that's the exclusion from the
permitting requirement.
But if this is a different place, then we need to reactivate that other permit.
From: Georgoulias, Bethany
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 5:16 PM
To: 'Lukaczer, Grace' <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241
Importance: High
Grace,
I see you submitted another contact request for this No Exposure below. Is this a different place than what NCG170241
(what we were talking about earlier) covers?
I think this might be where the mix-up happened because there's a note in our system about this site being under
NCG170241. I'm assuming that's incorrect too?

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NCGNE1459
Begins with NCS. NCG. or NCGNE (no exposure
Glen Raven Custom Fabncs LLC - Novelty Tarn Plant/ unbrella Graphics
.;Used to verify permit number)
Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties
Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COVID-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has
adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or
are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to
appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your
requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging
time.
From: Georgoulias, Bethany
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 4:37 PM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241
Grace,
It looks to us like there was a mistake on our end, although we are not sure how it happened. Both people involved
don't work at DEQ anymore, so it won't be easy for us to chase it down. Regardless, we need to re -activate this
one. We will put in the request to our DIT staff to do that as soon as possible and touch base when it's activated again,
so you can run that report.
Thanks,
Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality

919 707 3641 office
bethany.georgoulias@ncdenngov
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
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are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to
appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your
requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging
time.
From: Lukaczer, Grace[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 2:27 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>; Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241
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Good afternoon,
Yes, the plant at 232 Glen Raven Road is still active, I have a copy of the COC as number NCG170241. Please let me know
if there's something we need to do or submit to get the permit reactivated.
Thank you for looking into this,
Grace
From: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 1:33 PM
To: Lukaczer, Grace <[e-mail]>; Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>
Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>; Tran, Kieu M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241
Hi Grace,
This permit doesn't come up on the permit summary report because it's inactive. It was rescinded in 2021 because a No
Exposure Certification was issued instead. However, I am not sure this was the correct permit to be rescinded. The No
Exposure Application does not look like it's for this same facility, so this may have been a mistake.
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I am alerting our No Exposure and General Permits Coordinator to investigate further. It may need to be reactivated. I
assume this plant is still operating if you are trying to update contacts?
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Bethany Georgoulias (she/her)
Environmental Engineer
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3641 office
[e-mail]
512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604 (location)
1612 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1612 (mailing)
Website: http//deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-land-resources/stormwater
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requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging
time.
From: Lukaczer, Grace[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 10:56 AM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany<[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] Glen Raven Question - Permit Number NCG170241
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Good morning,
Thanks again for your help earlier with my questions, I'm sorry to say I have one more. I would like to see the
"Stormwater Permit Summary Report" for Glen Raven Custom Fabrics, LLC - Burlington Yarn Plant (the facility next door
to the Novelty Yarn Plant), but when I enter the permit number a blank report is generated. Is there another way I can
see this information?
Thank you,
Gracie
Grace Lukaczer I Environmental & Process Engineer
Glen Raven Custom Fabrics, LLC
[e-mail] I m: (864)-209-9574 1 o: (864)-716-4448
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