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[Fwd: Re: Express Buffer approaval]
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Express Buffer approaval]
From: Cyndi Karoly <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:33:15 -0400
To: Lia Myott <[e-mail]>
fyi
Subject: RE: Express Buffer approaval
From: "Kevin Martin" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:08:36 -0400
To: "Amy Chapman" <[e-mail]>
CC: "Ian McMillan" <[e-mail]>, "Cyndi Karoly" <[e-mail]>
Thanks Amy, I wanted to first be sure we were on the same page on the pier and trail, with your
comments I will submit a request to Lia for acceptance into express. Thanks for the quick reply.
Historically DWQ has not required an approval fro a trail in the buffer with mulch since the mulch is
pervious and if not forest vegetation was removed, but since the pier needs approval and I will bet they
will at least have to cut some brush I will include the trail as an impact due to potential clearing but not
as an addition of impervious.
Sept 4th to discuss the flowers buffer approval revision is open for me. let me know what time Kevin
From: Amy Chapman [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 9:40 AM
To: Kevin Martin
Cc: Ian McMillan; Cyndi Karoly
Subject: Re: Express Buffer approaval
Kevin,
The square footage for the trail to the pier would have to be applied for on the PCN as an "allowable"
use in the Table of Uses. Mulch does not do any nutrient (nitrogen) removal, so it is considered an
impact because the function of the buffer is taken away. You're correct in that piers generally do not
have buffer impacts unless vegetation is removed to install it. Since it's an allowable use as well, you
would just include that on the PCN with the trail. It sounds great that you're steering the developer
towards applying for all of the piers at once since that is something we would ask for and would
potentially put the project on hold for.
Also, I do not do Express Review. Lia Myott is our Express Review Coordinator. If she isn't booked,
I'm sure she'd be happy to accept the project into Express. Her number is: 919-733-9502 and her email
is: lia.myott(a,ncmail.net. She's in a training class and should be back Friday.
In reference to the Flowers project, I would like to have Ian and potentially Cyndi in the meeting as
well. August is looking fairly booked, so my first available date (and I believe Ian and Cyndi are
available as well) is September 4th. Let me know if this date works for you. If it does not, just let me
know some additional dates.
Thanks.
-Amy
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[Fwd: Re: Express Buffer approaval]
Kevin Martin wrote:
Amy, I wanted to talk with you briefly about a potential express review for buffer approval for some
single family residential piers in Franklin Co. Basically I want to be sure we are on the same page:
the pier over the water area has no buffer impacts and does not need a 401 because they are
driving pilings so no 404 is required. The trail to the pier is made of mulch and no forest vegetation
will be removed (or so I have been told I need to check it to be sure), however at the point the pier
walkway connects to the pond bank a few (20 or less) sq.ft. of buffer is impacted so I assume an
approval is required for that small part .Piers are water dependent structures so are an "Allowable"
activity under the buffer rules?
If we agree I also advised the developer that rather than do the piers for each lot one at a time it
would be in his interest and would save DWQ time if he applied for all at once. Because they are
trying to meet a deadline for the parade of homes this fall they will need to go express because they
did realize they needed an approval at all.
Second I guess we need to set up a meeting to discuss the Flowers buffer application we submitted
last week. Kevin
Amy Chapman
NC Division of Water Quality
401/Wetlands Unit
2321 Crabtree Blvd, Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27604
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E-mail: amy.chapman~a,ncmail.net
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