WQ0043206_Correspondence_20220309

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RE: [External] RE: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
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Alex,
Please find attached: 1) a revised FTA 06-21, page 2 of 5,
2) Flow Acceptance Letter from City of High Point, and
3) Revised FTSE 10-18.
I will send you the original Flow Acceptance Letter & FTSE 10-18 Form upon
is acceptible.
Note that the flow amount you provided below (15,638 gpd) was based upon
Lots 1 & 2 already have connections to other existing sewer mains, therefore
know if you have any questions.
Regards,
/ae Veralee
Civil/Survey Technician
CPT Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
4400 Tyning Street, High Point, NC 27265
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the total site area (17.77 acres) x 880 gpd.
do not need to be included in this. Let me
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Original Message
From: Lowe, Alexander [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2022 5:01 PM
To: Mike V
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
Mike,
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Unfortunately, the use of the warehouse buildings as a placeholder wouldn't be allowed, simply because the
application has already stated that you don't know the exact business type that will be placed on these lots.
However, if you're looking for a jumping-off point that doesn't require citing a specific business type, I would
suggest the we use the "per acre" option put forth in 15A NCAC 02T .0114 (d). If your PE team determines the
880 gallons/acre option (total of 15,638 GPD by my math) to be sufficiently served by the existing 8" line design,
then you are welcome to submit the revisions of only the necessary pages, as you did before.
However, if you feel that the main line should be sized up to meet this maximum flow design, please go ahead
and resubmit the application entirely, keeping the project name the same. Either way, I will use the same check
to cover the processing fee (as long as revisions are submitted within 30 days).
I would like to emphasize that upon permit issuance, receiving any tributary flow greater than the 15,638 GPD
design would constitute a permit violation, and thus it will be the responsibility of VMI LLC to size this system up
and submit future modifications to the permit as long as it is owned by them and the lots are under
development. This is no different than the legal requirements with any other permit type, but it bears explicit
statement when designs are being based on a more general estimate.
I look forward to hearing from you about our next step, and will do everything in my power to move this right
through after I have received the revised permit application.
Best,
Alex Lowe (he/him)
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Winston-Salem Regional Office
450 W. Hanes Mill Road, Suite 300
Winston-Salem, NC 27105
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From: Mike V <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 3:04 PM
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Alex,
Yes, under warehouse it says 100 gal/day per loading bay. That is what I'm using to generate a flow for the lots in
question.
Regards,
Mike V
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Original Message
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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2022 2:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
Hi Mike,
Just so I'm clear, do you mean you'll be using the general wastewater flow guidelines as found in 15A
NCAC 02T .0114 (c)?
Alex Lowe (he/him)
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Winston-Salem Regional Office
450 W. Hanes Mill Road, Suite 300
Winston-Salem, NC 27105
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From: Mike V <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 2:30 PM
To: Lowe, Alexander <[e-mail]>
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Alex,
We have decided to estimate a flow for the proposed sewer line based upon the warehouse use. With this
in mind, do I need to do a whole new fast track form or can I just send you a revised
page 2 (FTA 06-21) and get you a revised FTSE 10-18 from the City of High Point? Please let me know.
Sorry & Thanks for your help,
Mike V
Original Message
From: Lowe, Alexander [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2022 1:05 PM
To: Mike V
Subject: FW: [External] RE: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
Good afternoon Mike:
Unfortunately, the permit for the Airport 1 Business Park can't be accepted as designed. Please
see the email below from our engineer in RCO for his reasoning.
Please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist you in whatever your team determines
to be the next step for this site.

Best Regards,
Alex Lowe (he/him)
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Winston-Salem Regional Office
450 W. Hanes Mill Road, Suite 300
Winston-Salem, NC 27105
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From: Miller, Charlie M <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 12:57 PM
To: Lowe, Alexander <[e-mail]>
Cc: Fertenbaugh, Christyn L<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
Alex,
DEQ Central Office does not concur with the issuance of a zero -flow construction only permit for
this proposed project for the following reasons:
1. Per 15A NCAC 02T .0304(b), downstream capacity has not been assured. There is no
way to determine if the sewer system pipe sizing is adequate because there is no
estimated design flow.
2. If all of the 6" laterals servicing the lots were running at design capacity (flowing half -
full), this would cause capacity issues in the downstream 8" line.
3. 8" diameter for the sewer main is only the minimum required size, this does not assure
capacity for all possible wastewater flow possibilities.
Thank you,
Charlie Miller, P.E.
Engineer, Municipal Permitting Unit
Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
919.707.3627 (Office)
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Physical Address: 512 North Salisbury St.,Raleigh, NC, 27604
Mailing Address: 1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC, 27699-1617
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From: Lowe, Alexander <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 11:30 AM
To: Miller, Charlie M <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: [External] RE: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
Good morning Charlie:
Below is a follow up conversation with the engineer on the potential construction -only project
we discussed last week. If you could, please take a look at his answers provided (the questions
were based on that SOP that Christyn shared in the FT group message on Friday) and let me
know what the next step with this permit might be.
Thanks!
Alex Lowe (he/him)
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Winston-Salem Regional Office
450 W. Hanes Mill Road, Suite 300
Winston-Salem, NC 27105
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From: Mike V <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 9:07 AM
To: Lowe, Alexander <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
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Alex,
Please see below answers (in red) to the questions asked.
Regards,
06 Veraie

Civil/Survey Technician
CPT Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
4400 Tyning Street, High Point, NC 27265
Phone: [phone] Ext. 305
Fax: [phone]
E-mail: MikeV(a,CPTEngineering.com
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Original Message
From: Lowe, Alexander [mailto:alex.lowe©ncdenr.gov]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 3:32 PM
To: Mike Venable
Subject: Airport 1 Business Park - More Information Needed
Good afternoon Mike:
After speaking with the engineer at our Central Office, it seems that we're going to need
more information to make a decision about this permit. The main issue that caught his
eye is the permitting of the dry lines with no known or planned source for wastewater
flow (02T .0304 (b)). Apparently, these types of lines have caused a significant amount
of non-compliance in the past, as it is notably hard to keep track of when flow is made
tributary (sometimes months or even years later), and thus the DEQ's responsibility to
monitor capacity at downstream wastewater facilities is jeopardized. Therefore, it has
become standard practice to restrict the permitting of these sites to an in-depth case -
by -case review.
Within my conversation with him, I also noticed that there is a discrepancy between the
project description as provided in the narrative and in the FTA document. The narrative
lists the site description as nine lots, of which two lots already have existing buildings.
However, in item VI.8 on FTA 06-21, the explanation for zero flow states that the permit
is requested for four lots, and those other lots and buildings are not mentioned. Before
moving forward, I will need you to clarify the number of lots planned, as well as whether
these buildings are already tied to the existing sewer, or if they will soon be tied in
through this project. It will help you understand better when you see the Overall Plan.
Lots 1 & 2 already have sewer service to existing sewer lines. Lots 3,4,6, 7 & 8 (five lots*)
are the only lots connecting to this proposed 8" sewer main. * The contractor is to verify if
lot 9 has a existing sewer connection, I show a sewer service just in case if this lot does
not have existing sewer service. Lot 5 contains the Permanent Wet Detention Pond that
needs no sewer service.
Lastly, it would also be helpful for your case to provide the following for our engineer's
review:
• a detailed justification for why the dry line is necessary now, rather than waiting
for each lot developer to apply for their own extension permit as needed
(which, for the reasons stated above, is preferred by our division) We are
requesting approval of the proposed 8" sewer mains now so the owner can install
the water and sewer lines, then construct the proposed public culdesac. With the
proposed culdesac built he can then recorded a plat subdividing the lots (9 total).
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At such time then he can sell the lots. Without the water and sewer lines in place
he can not sell the lots.
• an estimated schedule for when the permit modifications would be made to
make flow tributary to each lot Once the individual lots are recorded the owner
will list the lots for purchase. When a lot sells and the lot use is determined, then
the sewer flow can be determined for that lot. This will be done for each lot for
sale.
• approximate total flows expected on the dry line (to verify proper sizing) The
minimum sewer line main size in High Point, NC is 8" diameter pipe. Our plans
were approved by High Point with 8" sewer line mains.
• a detailed plan for plugging or valving off the line to ensure that no illegal tie-ins
or tributary flows are made to the dry line between the time of installation and
the time flow is permitted, and The proposed 8" sewer main line ties into an
existing sewer manhole. The Utility Contractor could install the proposed 8"
sewer main and make the connection to the existing manhole then install a
temporary plug in the proposed 8" sewer main. At such time the proposed sewer
main will be certified and ready to be put in service. When the first lot is sold then
the owner will have the contractor remove the temporary plug. Only the five (5)
maybe six (6) lots will tie to this 8" sewer main.
• a copy of the design plans which shows the relationship of the dry line to any
existing sewers. A pdf of the Overall Plan and Sanitary Sewer Plan & Profile,
Approved by City of High Point, are included.
Please note that even upon the submittal of this additional information, the issuance
of a permit cannot be guaranteed. This is just the minimum needed by the engineer to
assess the request.
I know this is a lot, so if you have any further follow ups I'm happy to seek out answers
for you.
Best Regards,
Alex Lowe (he/him)
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Winston-Salem Regional Office
450 W. Hanes Mill Road, Suite 300
Winston-Salem, NC 27105
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From: Mike Venable <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 6:08 PM
To: Lowe, Alexander <[e-mail]>
Cc: Mike Venable <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] Re: Signatures Received - Airport 1 Business Park
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Alex,
Thanks for your help!!
M i keV
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Lowe, Alexander <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Mike:
I've received the signatures for the project, and have completed a draft
of the permit. I will be in contact with some permitting folks at our
Central Office in Raleigh to confirm some special language that is
required for construction only permits like this, and may need to follow
up again if they have additional questions. I'll keep you up to date on
everything as it happens, and do my best to keep this permit rolling for
you.
Best,
Alex Lowe (he/him)
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Winston-Salem Regional Office
450 W. Hanes Mill Road, Suite 300
Winston-Salem, NC 27105
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VI. GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
1. If the Applicant is a Privately -Owned Public Utility, has a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity been attached?
❑ Yes ❑ No ® N/A
2. If the Applicant is a Developer of lots to be sold, has a Developer's Operational Agreement (FORM: DEV) been attached?
® Yes ❑ No ❑ N/A
3. If the Applicant is a Home/Property Owners' Association, has an HOA/POA Operational Agreement (FORM: HOA) and
supplementary documentation as required by 15A NCAC 02T.0115(c) been attached?
❑ Yes ❑ No ®N/A
4. Origin of wastewater: (check all that apply):
❑ Residential (Individually Owned) ❑ Retail (stores, centers, malls)
❑ Residential (Leased) ❑ Retail with food preparation/service
❑ School / preschool / day care ❑ Medical / dental / veterinary facilities
❑ Food and drink facilities ❑ Church
® Businesses / offices / factories ❑ Nursing Home
❑ Car Wash
❑ Hotel and/or Motels
❑ Swimming Pool/Clubhouse
❑ Swimming Pool/Filter Backwash
❑ Other (Explain in Attachment)
5. Nature of wastewater : 50 % Domestic 50 % Commercial % Industrial (See 15A NCAC 02T .0103(20))
If Industrial, is there a Pretreatment Program in effect? ❑ Yes ❑ No
6. Has a flow reduction been approved under 15A NCAC 02T .0114(fl? ❑ Yes ® No
> If ves. provide a copy of flow reduction approval letter with this application
7. Summarize wastewater generated by project:
Establishment Type (see 02T.0114(f))
Daily Design Flow a,b
No. of Units
Flow
Unknown Use
880 gal/acre
10.542
9,277 GPD
gal/
GPD
gal/
GPD
gal/
GPD
gal/
GPD
gall
GPD
Total
9,277 GPD
a See 15A NCAC 02T .0114(b), (d), (e)(1) and (e)(2) for caveats to wastewater design flow rates (i.e., minimum flow per
dwelling; proposed unknown non-residential development uses; public access facilities located near high public use areas;
and residential property located south or east of the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway to be used as vacation rentals as defined
in G.S. 42A-4).
b Per 15A NCAC 02T .0114(c), design flow rates for establishments not identified [in table 15A NCAC 02T.0114] shall be
determined using available flow data, water using fixtures, occupancy or operation patterns, and other measured data.
8. Wastewater generated by project: 9,277 GPD (per 15A NCAC 02T .0114)
➢ Do not include future flows or previously permitted allocations
If permitted flow is zero, please indicate why:
❑ Pump Station/Force Main or Gravity Sewer where flow will be permitted in subsequent permits that connect to this line.
Please provide supplementary information indicating the approximate timeframe for permitting upstream sewers with flow.
❑ Flow has already been allocated in Permit Number: Issuance Date:
❑ Rehabilitation or replacement of existing sewers with no new flow expected
❑ Other (Explain):
FORM: FTA 06-21
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Public Services Department
Derrick Q. Boone
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
NORTH CAROLINA S INTERNATIONAL CITYTh
March 9, 2022
NCDENR
Winston-Salem Regional Office
450 W. Hanes Mill Rd, Suite 300
Winston-Salem, NC 27105
Project: Airport 1 Business Park
Private Sewer
Applicant: VMI Properties, LLC
Greensboro, NC
Dear Sir or Madam:
This is to acknowledge that the City of High Point will accept for treatment in the Eastside
Wastewater Treatment Plant (Permit #NC0024210), wastewater flow from the above referenced
project in the amount of 9,277 GPD, which will be discharged to facilities operated and
maintained by the City of High Point.
If further information is needed, please let me know.
Very truly yours,
Derrick Q, Boone
Assistant Public Services Director
DQB/tab
City of High Point, P.O. Box 230, 211 South Hamilton Street, High Point, NC 27261 USA
Fax: [phone] Phone: [phone] TDD: 336.883.8517

1)ivi=.ion of' Water 1Zot:Ourc ec
Application Number:
Entity Requesting Allocation:
State of North Carolina
Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
Flow Tracking for Sewer Extension Applications
(FTSE 10-18)
2020-175
VMI Properties LLC
Project Name for which flow is being requested:
Airport 1 Business Park
More than one FTSE may be required for a single project if the owner of the WWTP is not responsible for all pump
stations along the route of the proposed wastewater flow.
I. Complete this section only if you are the owner of the wastewater treatment plant.
a. WWTP Facility name: Eastside WWTP
b. WWTP Facility Permit #: NC-0024210
c. WWTP facility permitted flow:
d. Estimated obligated flow not yet tributary to the WWTP:
e. WWTP facility's actual average flow:
f. Total flow for this specific request:
g. Total actual and obligated flows to the facility:
h. Percent of permitted flow used:
All flows are in MGD
26.0000
3.0905
16.1917
0.0093
19.2914
74.20%
II. Complete this section for each pump station you are responsible for along the route of this proposed
wastewater flow.
List pump stations located between the project connection point and the WWTP.
(A) (B) (C) (D) = (B+C) (E)=(A-D)
Pump Pump Firm Design Approx. Obligated, Total Current Available
Station Station Capacity' Average Current Not Yet Flow Plus Capacity
(Name or Permit Daily Flow' Avg. Daily Tributary Obligated
Number) Number (Firm/pt) Flow, Daily Flow, Flow
MGD MGD MGD MGD MGD MGD
Eastfork W00015751 4.3200 1.7280 0.8611 0.2591 1.1203 0.6077
Riverdale \V00008572 30.0887 11.4842 8.3996 1.7404 10.1400 1.3442
— #N/A #NIA #N/A #N/A #N/A #N/A #N/A
#NIA MIA MIA #N/A #N/A #NIA #N/A #N/A
#NIA #NIA !NIA MI #N/A #N/A #NIA #N/A
* The Firm Capacity (design flow) of any pump station is defined as the maximum pumped flow that
can be achieved with the largest pump taken out of service.
** Design Average Flow is the firm capacity of the pump station divided by the peaking factor (p1) not
less than 2.5, per Section 2.02(A)(4)(c) of the Minimum Design Criteria.
*** A Planting Assessment Addendum shall be attached for each pump station located between the
project connection point and the WWTP where the Available Capacity is 5 0.
Downstream Facility Name (Sewer):
Downstream Permit Number:
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III. Certification Statement
I, Derrick Q. Boone certify to the best of my knowledge that the addition of the volume of
wastewater to be permitted in this project has been evaluated along the route to the receiving wastewater
treatment facility and that the flow from this project is not anticipated to cause any capacity related
sanitary sewer overflows or overburden any downstream pump station en route to the receiving treatment
plant under normal circumstances, given the implementation of the planned improvements identified in the
planning assessment where applicable. This analysis has been performed in accordance with local
established policies and procedures using the best available data. This certification applies to those items
listed above in Sections I and II plus all attached planning assessment addendums for which I am the
responsible party. Signature of this form certifies that the receiving collection system or treatment works
has adequate capacity to transport and treat the proposed new wastewater.
3/9/2022
igning Official Signature Date
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Title ofSigning Official
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FTSE 10-18