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From: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 8:48 AM
To: Montalvo, Sheri A
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
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Hi Sheri,
Please do withdraw the application.
Thank you!
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ENVIR©NMENTAL, INC.
Lisa Long
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Raleigh • Charlotte • Charleston • Tampa
• 866-772-6453
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From: Montalvo, Sheri A <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 10:40 AM
To: Lisa Long <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
Lisa,
If you are going to withdraw the application then I would just need an
email from you requesting to do so.
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Thanks,
Sheri VAbl it6l iVb
Administrative Specialist
401 & Buffer Permitting Branch
Division of Water Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
[e-mail]
Mailing address: 1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
Physical address: 512 N. Salisbury Street, Raleigh, NC 27604
From: Turlington, Chad
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 12:39 PM
To: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Lisa Long
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Montalvo, Sheri A <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
This project is located in the coastal region and is proposing to impact less than 1 acre of isolated wetland, so the
impacts would be deemed permitted. I'm attaching the "General Permit for Impacts to Isolated and Other Non-401
Jurisdictional Wetlands and Surface Waters" to this email.
Lisa, I'm thinking that the best way to handle this on DWR's end is for you to request to have the application withdrawn.
I'm not sure what the process is for that but try contacting Sheri Montalvo in my Central Office. I'm copying her on this
email.
Chad Turlington
Environmental Specialist
Division of Water Resources — Water Quality Regional Operations Section, Fayetteville Regional Office
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
910-433-3320 office
chad.turlington©ncdenr.gov
225 Green Street
Suite 714
Fayetteville, NC 28301
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From: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 12:14 PM
To: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>; Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
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Heard back from EPA and HQ. They both concur. The Corps will not regulate the proposed impact to wetland WA, and I
will withdraw the application.
Chad: What are the state regs on isolated wetlands? I don't recall if there is a size/impact trigger or if they have to be a
specific type of wetland (like a bog)? I got lost in all that language years ago.
Liz
From: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 6:19 PM
To: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>; Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
Just following up. I sent the isolated review request to EPA and HQ. If they agree with the isolated call, I will withdraw
the NWP application. If they have questions, or disagree with the call, I'll be back in touch.
Liz
From: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 2:27 PM
To: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>; Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
Hey Lisa,
I apologize that my review is taking so long, I am just spread really thin right now, and will be for the foreseeable future.
I have to coordinate the isolated wetland call with our HQ and EPA and haven't had a chance to do that yet.
Liz
From: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 12:36 PM
To: Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>; Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]>
Subject: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
Hi Chad and Liz,
I just wanted to follow up on the status of this PCN application. Liz do you have everything you need from me at his
point?
Best,
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SPANGLER
ENVIRONMENTAL, INC,
Lisa Long
Environmental Scientist
Raleigh • Charlotte • Charleston • Tampa
866-772-6453
, 919-689-5283
spanglerenvironmental.com
[e-mail]
4338 Bland Rd., Raleigh, NC 27609
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From: Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 1:11 PM
To: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Lisa Long
<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
The last communication that I had with Paul Wojoski out of my Central Office was that the prefiling was no longer
required because the 2020 Clean Water Act Section 401 Certification Rule was vacated on October 21, 2021. And yes,
everything is very confusing!
From: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 1:03 PM
To: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>
Cc: Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
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Lisa,
Thank you for your quick response. Items 1-3 are satisfactorily addressed at this time.
Chad: can you confirm/answer the pre -filing question? There has been so much confusion with both our AJD pause and
2021 NWP verification pause.
Regarding #4: A site visit will likely be required to confirm the statements below. Based on our investigation of this
aquatic resource, it continues off property and is connected to the Cape Fear River through a series of ditches or
tributaries. See attached Lidar. This is why we previously stated that WA is JD, and not isolated.
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Until we resolve the WA question, the application is still considered incomplete. If the wetland is field verified to be
connected, an equalizer pipe will be required. I may be able to get out there next week (maybe Tuesday or Wednesday).
Liz
From: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 12:16 PM
To: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
Hi Sarah,
Please see below responses to your questions:
1) Missing DWR Pre -filing information
It is my understanding that due to the recent overturn of the NWPR, pre -filing notification is no longer required.
However, we do have confirmation. Please see attached.
2) Missing Compensatory Mitigation: Compensatory mitigation is routinely required for unavoidable losses to
wetlands 0.10 acre or greater. In some cases compensatory mitigation is required for less than 0.1 acre wetland
loss. Please provide a credit reservation letter from either NC DMS or an Approved Mitigation Bank (whichever is
appropriate in this service area).
An SOA is in progress and will be forwarded upon receipt.
3) Unclear impact siting location: Clearly explain the rationale for locating site access in the wetland impact
location. Why not access from the northern portion of the property and avoid wetland impacts? Are there
specific DOT requirements which restrict access?
Based on input from DOT, the Client had to shift the entrance to the subdivision as far south as possible to avoid
conflicting movements for the turn lane and the u-turn pavement along 87. Additionally, to ensure there was no
confusion of full access with the proximity to Butler Nursery Road, NCDOT wanted as much off -set distance to
Butler Nursery Road as possible.
4) Unclear plans: The plans do not show the wetland (wetland WA) continuing to the southern property boundary
as shown on the agreed upon delineation map, and also do not show a cross pipe (equalizer pipe) located
underneath the proposed access road at the wetland crossing. An equalizer pipe is necessary to maintain flow
and circulation of the remaining wetland (WA; which continues offsite) to downstream waters and further
would demonstrate avoidance and minimization to the aquatic environment. As currently depicted, the
remaining wetland (WA) onsite would be a total take of 0.3 acres loss. Please clarify and revise plans
accordingly.
The map attached to the JD was developed using GPS data collected in the field. The flags hung in the field have
subsequently been surveyed, and the survey locations are used in the impact maps. Because WA does not in fact
extend to the property line, and therefore the entire southern portion of the feature will be impacted, no
equalizer pipe is necessary to retain connectivity.
Please let me know if this satisfactorily answered your questions, or if you have any further questions or concerns.
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Best,
SPANGLER
ENVIRONMENTAL, INC.
Lisa Long
Environmental Scientist
Raleigh • Charlotte • Charleston • Tampa
866-772-6453
919-689-5283
spanglerenvironmental.com
[e-mail]
4338 Bland Rd., Raleigh, NC 27609
111 El II
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From: Hair, Sarah E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 5:39 PM
To: Lisa Long<[e-mail]>
Cc: Turlington, Chad <[e-mail]>
Subject: SAW-2020-00667/ S NC Highway 87/The Glen SD
Good evening,
The permit application (email received November 22, 2021) for a NWP 29 associated with a proposed residential
subdivision, along NC Hwy 87 in Cumberland County, has been received and is considered incomplete for the following
reasons:
1) Missing DWR Pre -filing information
2) Missing Compensatory Mitigation: Compensatory mitigation is routinely required for unavoidable losses to wetlands
0.10 acre or greater. In some cases compensatory mitigation is required for less than 0.1 acre wetland loss. Please
provide a credit reservation letter from either NC DMS or an Approved Mitigation Bank (whichever is appropriate in this
service area).
3) Unclear impact siting location: Clearly explain the rationale for locating site access in the wetland impact location.
Why not access from the northern portion of the property and avoid wetland impacts? Are there specific DOT
requirements which restrict access?
4) Unclear plans: The plans do not show the wetland (wetland WA) continuing to the southern property boundary as
shown on the agreed upon delineation map, and also do not show a cross pipe (equalizer pipe) located underneath the
proposed access road at the wetland crossing. An equalizer pipe is necessary to maintain flow and circulation of the
remaining wetland (WA; which continues offsite) to downstream waters and further would demonstrate avoidance and
minimization to the aquatic environment. As currently depicted, the remaining wetland (WA) onsite would be a total
take of 0.3 acres loss. Please clarify and revise plans accordingly.
Please see attached excerpt from proposed plans and wetland delineation map for reference.
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This application cannot be further processed until the above items have been resolved to the satisfaction of the Corps.
Please provide the requested information within 30-days of this email (January 14, 2022) or we will consider the
application withdrawn.
Kind regards,
Liz
Liz Hair
Regulatory Project Manager
Wilmington District
US Army Corps of Engineers
69 Darlington Avenue
Wilmington, NC 28403
[e-mail]
Work Cell: 910-512-4456
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