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Hall, Christine
From: Hall, Christine
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 8:51 AM
To: Michael Norton
Cc: Snider, Holley
Subject: RE: [External] Bolivia Elementary School
Attachments: 21.07157 Bolivia ES Stacking Lane Concept Plan.pdf
Good morning Michael,
The New Year has started out fast and furious, so I haven't had a dull moment.
I reviewed the 1995 Rules that were in effect at the time this permit was issued (available at the bottom of this website)
and didn't see a clear definition of surface waters. Today, 15A NCAC 02H.1019(6)(b) of the current 2017 rules define
surface waters that require a setback in coastal counties as:
(b) VEGETATED SETBACKS. For all subject projects within the Coastal Counties, vegetated setbacks from perennial
waterbodies, perennial streams, and intermittent streams shall be at least 50 feet in width for new development and at
least 30 feet in width for redevelopment and shall comply with Rule .1003 (4) of this Section.
The use of this definition for this project will depend greatly on the project area of the original permit and if the 2017
rules would be triggered by the proposed improvements. If the proposed improvements can fall under the current
permit and 1995 rules, I do believe that this definition is reasonable and can be used as good guidance.
I would suggest working with Holley (cc'ed) to determine what these ditches would be considered and we can go from
there, if needed.
Christine Hall, PE
Wilmington Regional Stormwater Program Supervisor
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources — State Stormwater Program
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: 910 796 7215
Direct: 910 796 7339
Email: christine. hall aAncdenr.gov
Address: 127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
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From: Michael Norton[mailto:michael.norton@mcgillassociates.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 7:46 AM
To: Hall, Christine <Christine.Hall@ncdenr.gov>
Subject: [External] Bolivia Elementary School
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Hi Christine.
Hope the year has started well.
I wanted to see if someone might be able to offer input relative to DEQ's current position on what is designated
as a "surface water".
We've been asked to help Brunswick County Schools develop a stacking lane on campus to get traffic off HWY
17 during drop-off and pick-up times.
The original permit (excerpt attached) reveals a low density permit, with language that a 30' buffer is required
between surface waters and impervious areas. A stacking lane best fits over an existing roadbed (access
point to the septic field area). Construction of a stacking lane in this location places additional impervious area
within 30' of ditches that will likely be classified as jurisdictional by the USACE. The ditches are along the
property lines adjacent to the proposed stacking lanes (concepts attached for reference).
I was wanting to make sure there was nothing preventing the use of the proposed location on campus as it is
ideal to overlay where this existing roadbed is located, but didn't want to misunderstand "surface water' and
propose something that could be inconsistent with the underlying permit.
Thanks for any guidance or direction to a point of contact to confirm.
Best,
Michael
Michael A. Norton, PE
Principal — Shallotte Office Manager
McGill Associates, PA
712 Village Road, Suite 103, Shallotte, NC 2E ?0
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