20140169 Ver 1_More Info Received_20140305

Steenhuis, Joanne
From:
Shaver, Brad E SAW [Brad.E.Shaver @usace.army.mil]
Sent:
Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:20 AM
To:
Trevor Horne
Cc:
Steenhuis, Joanne
Subject:
RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: SAW- 2014 -00165 (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
OK thanks I will share with 7oanne and get this permit back to you with conditions we have discussed to date.
It will hopefully come next week.
Thanks for your patience.
Brad
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From: Trevor Horne [ mailto :hornetrevor(:lahotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:09 AM
To: Shaver, Brad E SAW
Cc: hpconst @ec.rr.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: SAW- 2014 -00165 (UNCLASSIFIED)
Brad,
lust finished speaking to my builder. Recommendation, draw back all fill to 12' mark install silt fence slope dirt from
12'to 14' with soil and seed. once seed has taken, trim silt fence to ground level and have grassed soil slope for permanent
retainer.
R/
Trevor
> From: Brad.E.Shaver(:lausace.army.mil
> To: hornetrevor(:lahotmail.com; joanne.steenhuis @ncdenr.gov
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: SAW- 2014 -00165 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:27:50 +0000
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
> You may consider speaking with your builder concerning construction options. I know in the past I have seen wooden
retaining walls, soil slopes, and concrete articulated walls. I will not dictate what type of structure to be used but for
the sake of avoidance and minimization a permanent measure should be employed.
> Brad
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> From: Trevor Horne [ mailto :hornetrevor(:lahotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:35 PM
> To: Shaver, Brad E SAW; Steenhuis, 7oanne
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: SAW- 2014 -00165 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Brad,
> I am following all that you have stated below. Yes, I agree that silt fencing is a temporary fix as it will eventually
break down from UV rays. However it will prevent any sluff from entering the area that we clear the fill from in reducing
the overall width. Possibly, not absolutely, but possibly the fill will set up so that sluff off is not a factor after time
as much of it appears to have done already. Worse case scenario I replace the silt fence when needed. It is not that I don't
want to create something more permanent but right now I have not any ideas of what to use or how to construct it. A wooden
structure is also not permanent, and concrete presents additional footprint. I am open to your guidance and thoughts on this
as you are the expert here and the one that makes the decisions anyway. I do not think that rip rap is necessary just
thought it would be a protective measure for erosion, but current & past water flow is limited and I have not noticed any
gouging of the dirt by water flow at any of the culverts.
> R/
> Trevor
> > From: Brad.E.Shaver(:lausace.army.mil
> > To: hornetrevor(:lahotmail.com; joanne.steenhuis @ncdenr.gov
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: SAW- 2014 -00165 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:06:35 +0000
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> > Good Morning Mr. Horne,
> > 1. Agreed take the fill down to the adjacent existing wetland elevation.
> > 2. Now in terms of stabilization, silt fencing is never intended to be a permanent stabilization measure. On highways
the slopes are typically soil slopes down to the existing grade which can be vegetated. In your case the rock is not going
to grow vegetation therefore you will likely need to construct some type of retaining wall along the stretch in order to
accomplish the desired wetland fill minimization.
> > 3. The third culvert location you speak of is fine by me. If you believe rip rap is necessary you would need to include
this as part of the impact.
> > Brad

> > - - - -- Original Message---- -
> > From: Trevor Horne [ mailto:hornetrevor @hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 5:33 PM
> > To: Steenhuis, 7oanne; Shaver, Brad E SAW
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: SAW- 2014 -00165
> > 7oanne & Brad,
> > The answers are as follows;
> > 1) Fill material outside of the 14' will be removed to the natural grade or contour of the wetlands. 2) The fill slopes
will be stabilized by utilizing silt fencing.
> > 3) Currently there is a culvert in the finger area as well as two additional in the long area. Since you have indicated
the necessity for three then I propose that I install a third somewhere strategically between the two that already exist.
One culvert is situated at the start of the gradient and the other is situated at exit of the curve presently.
> > One question. Would it be allowed to place rip rap at the discharge of the culverts to help prevent erosion of the soil?
I will await your instructions and answers.
> > Respectfully,
> > Trevor P. Horne
> > From: joanne.steenhuis @ncdenr.gov
> > To: hornetrevor @hotmail.com; brad.e.shaver @usace.army.mil
> > Subject: RE: SAW- 2014 -00165
> > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:54:46 +0000
> > Trevor,
> > Brad and I were in a workshop this week and we reviewed your application together. We need to you give us more detail on
a couple of items. An e -mail in response to this will satisfy what we need for the record.
> > The items we need to address are:
> > 1) How are you going to restore the area (fill) that is already there in the road? You will need to go down to the
natural grade or contour.
> > 2) How are you going to stabilize the fill slopes? The type of material being used (crushed gravel) is not conducive to
stabilizing with vegetation.
> > 3) Please clarify the number of culverts that you are installing and approximate locations. You need to have one in the
finger and at least three in the longer impact (Brad and I cannot remember how many you have already installed).
> > We need you to be aware of these things and that they will be a part of the permit conditions. Again, if you have
questions please call myself or Brad. I also apologize for the delay in responding to the application as I previously
mentioned that Brad and I were in a workshop this week.
> > Thank you!
> > From: Trevor Horne [ mailto:hornetrevor @hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:15 PM
> > To: Steenhuis, 7oanne; brad.e.shaver @usace.army.mil
> > Subject: SAW- 2014 -00165
> > 7oanne & Brad,
> > Was curious if I can move forward with reducing width of drive and installing silt fence or do I need to wait for the
permit from Raleigh? When the work is done then what? Hope you guys enjoy a nice weekend for a change.
> > Trevor
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
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