NCG190123_Email RE Outfall_20220121

Carson, Brittany
From: Lambe, Brian
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 9:56 AM
To: Carson, Brittany
Subject: Re: [External] Zimmerman Marine
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Yes outfall 1 only
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On Jan 20, 2022, at 10:57 AM, Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the update here. To be clear, does this mean I only enter outfall 1 into BIMS?
Brittany Carson
General Industrial Stormwater Permit Coordinator
Stormwater Program, Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
N.C. Department of Environmental Quality
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From: Lambe, Brian <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 4:27 PM
To: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>
Cc: Doug Ruhlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] Zimmerman Marine
Mr. Ruhlin is agreeing to remove SDO 2 from the application, if you could cross it off. With that, this
office recommends permit issuance.
Brian Lambe
Environmental Specialist
910-796-7313
919-268-1678 cell
State of North Carolina I Environmental Quality I Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Extension I Wilmington, NC 28405
910 796 7215 T 1910 350 2004 F I http://uortal.ncdenr.orR/iveb/Ir/
From: Doug Ruhlin [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 4:24 PM
To: Lambe, Brian <[e-mail]>
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Cc: Carson, Brittany <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] Zimmerman Marine
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Yes, I agree. Please do.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:20 PM Lambe, Brian <brian.lambekncdenr.gov> wrote:
I think the best solution for the representative outfall status of SD02 is not to include it as a discharge
point, only to be updated if discharges occur. Typically I do not approve ROS apps without a year's
worth of data. Given the lack of discharge during previous large storm events and the proximity to
SD01, I think that we should remove it from the application. You should include in the SPPP
acknowledgement of the potential for this and yearly certification that the outfall is not active.The
facility would need to maintain Qualitative Monitoring for the outfall.
We can remove the SD02 from the application.
Please tell me if you have objections to this course of action.
Brian Lambe
Environmental Specialist
910-796-7313
919-268-1678 cell
State of North Carolina I Environmental Quality I Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Extension I Wilmington, NC 28405
910 796 7215 T 1 910 350 2004 F I http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/Ir/
From: Doug Ruhlin [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 3:35 PM
To: Lambe, Brian <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] Zimmerman Marine

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Brian -
Enclosed is the NOI we recently submitted on behalf of Zimmerman Marine to Brittany
Carson in Raleigh. Any questions, please let me know. Also, we simultaneously sent in
(same envelope) a representative outfall request, since they literally have two outfalls,
not that far apart .... the "main one" we are calling 001, and they have a smaller one (two
small holes drilled through the concrete atop the bulkhead) that we are calling 002.
They are both outfalls, so to do the right thing we listed both on the N01. But, 002 is
unlikely to discharge except under huge storm events, so rather than have to
perpetually explain why NODI, I figured we'd do the rep outfall thing (you may not have
even noticed 002....). I have also discussed with the facility, if after several months of
watching 002 through some bigger storm events, if it serves no purpose as an outfall
(the holes MAY have been drilled in the past to run cables or something, there are 2
side by side, about 3" in diameter each, and they are about 3" above grade at the
bulkhead), we may modify permit coverage to remove them after we've plugged
them ..... we will see!
Let me know if any questions.
DOUG RUHLIN
CPESC, CPSWQ, CPISM, CHMM, CESCP, REPA,
REM, CESM, CEA
Principal Environmental Consultant
toll free: 888-762-0230 1 office: 609-693-8301
web: www.nuagreen.com I email: dougga rmagreen.com

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