NCG550040_staff comments_20211221

Weaver, Charles
From: Williams, Stephanie A
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 1:41 PM
To: Weaver, Charles
Cc: Boss, Daniel J
Subject: RE: NCG550040 - Crossnore Flea Market
Attachments: NCG550040_Permit (Issuance)_19921102.pdf
Charles,
Thank you for the information you sent. Dan found some records in Laserfiche that indicate there was certainly a
discharge pipe at one point. See page one of the attachment for a description of the discharge and page two for
coordinates of the pipe. These coordinates match a separate diagram I found in Laserfiche, so I am thinking it is probable
that the pipe is located there — it's a strange spot where we wouldn't necessarily check during an inspection unless we
had a reason to.
The new owners told me they had mailed a change of ownership form in early November, but the change isn't reflected
in BIMS. I can advise them to mail it again so they can pay any relevant bills and retain the permit, because it sounds like
there is in fact a discharge pipe.
This is a strange situation because the health department seems certain that they had a permit for this system at one
point, so I'm personally very curious to find the pipe.
Thanks,
Stephanie Williams
Environmental Specialist — Asheville Regional Office
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources
828-296-4500 Office
828-214-0087 Mobile
[e-mail]
2090 U.S. Hwy. 70
Swannanoa, N.C. 28778
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adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or are
on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to
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From: Weaver, Charles <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 11:24 AM
To: Williams, Stephanie A <[e-mail]>
Cc: Boss, Daniel J <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: NCG550040 - Crossnore Flea Market
Stephanie — I've attached the permit historical files for your review. This site was originally permitted as a discharging
system.
However, we had no contact with the owners between 1993 and 2007, so anything could have happened regarding
system repairs or a change to a conventional septic system. Dan Boss got the owner (Townsend) to submit ownership
change paperwork in 2007, and we've heard nothing since. NCG550040 should be made inactive. The former owner
never paid any annual fees, so there's no cause to renew this.
If there's no outfall, then we should tell the new owners to get a permit from the county. No discharge = not our
jurisdiction.
CHW
From: Williams, Stephanie A <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 9:36 AM
To: Weaver, Charles <[e-mail]>
Subject: NCG550040
Good morning,
I hope this Thursday morning is finding you well. I am working on an inspection of NCG550040 and it's a strange one —
hoping you might have some information on it.
The discharge pipe has never been located as far as I can tell. All inspections dating back to 2007 state that the pipe was
not found. The property owner believes it was installed as, or at one point converted to a traditional septic system. Staff
at the local health department said they recall seeing a permit for this property on their end, but they can't locate it. Do
you have any files on this permit that would suggest it was built as or converted to a traditional septic system with no
discharge pipe?
The property was sold about 3 years ago, and the new owners just became aware of this permit. They have submitted a
change of ownership form, but the change isn't reflected in BIMS yet. I noticed the billing is really strange, see
screenshot below.
Thanks for your help!
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Stephanie Williams
Environmental Specialist — Asheville Regional Office
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources
828-296-4500 Office
828-214-0087 Mobile
[e-mail]
2090 U.S. Hwy. 70
Swannanoa, N.C. 28778
Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed
to third parties.
Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COV1D-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has
adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or are
on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to
appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your
requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging time.
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